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Am I being stupid and potentially leaving myself in a vulnerable position?

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GreatPlumBiscuit · 16/09/2026 00:29

So conflicted about my current situation and would appreciate some advice.

Im in my early 50s and have been living in my partner's house for the last 4.5 years after selling my property to release funds and move in with him. It happened quickly, I moved in after a few months of dating him.

I've paid 50% of everything since I moved in. He is mortgage free, so 50% of all bills, food, insurance etc.

We're coming up to 5 years of being in a very committed relationship and I'm starting to feel very anxious about my situation.

I'm divorced and suffered from financial and emotional abuse in my first marriage. I promised myself I'd never leave myself vulnerable again after my first marriage broke down, it took everything I had to get over the abuse and cheating.

I find myself with a lovely man now. Kind, caring, lovely to me.

But I'm uncomfortable with the fact that I am not building up anything for myself or my future.

What if he dumps me, or dies! He will not talk about marriage, if I even mention a civil ceremony he clams up. He has no will and doesn't seem to want to make one.

How do I protect myself in this situation? Just carry on living here and paying half of everything?

Why is it that I feel the need for marriage to feel secure.

He's such an avoidant personality... I can't even talk to him about doing up the mouldy en suite we've been living with for over 4 years... it's disgusting but he says he's not bothered by it.. I've offered to pay half to rectify it but he shouted at me and said he's happy to live with it as is.

Am I being stupid to just carry on coasting along ..... I need something solid. I lost everything when my first husband left me, am I leaving myself vulnerable again?

OP posts:
Solitudinemfaciuntpacemappellant · 18/09/2026 17:06

You have the wake up call you need, OP but I would not do anything hasty. You are currently living rent-free (albeit in a terrible house in a grim area). You are living off savings and depleting your assets but your assets will deplete faster if you move out and have to rent.
Here’s what I would do. Firstly get a fulltime job. Any job. Make that your number one priority. Stop living off your savings. Amass as much savings as you can as soon as you start working. Get good financial advice and ensure your savings are working as hard as possible while still within the risk parameters you are comfortable with. Look at your budget and if you can’t afford something, tell him you don’t want to pay for it and would prefer to do without. Protect your future deposit at all costs. Don’t ask him to buy anything, pay for anything or repair anything. Just keep building your savings and looking for promotions/ better jobs. Don’t be deflected by any arguments and if he gets aggressive or unpleasant or tries to make you pay rent, then don’t tell him what you are doing. But just keep doing it. Once you have amassed enough for a property, you can either buy or continue to save until you feel ready to move out. It may be that knowing you have enough to support yourself in future will take the pressure off and you may decide the rent free living arrangements work for both of you. But don’t compromise your future.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 19/09/2026 15:59

jdb9803 · 18/09/2026 05:28

No, but doing all the cooking and cleaning is - and may be why he doesn't want her moving out - she's his free housekeeper

There is nothing that the op has said to suggest this is the case though (it could be we don’t know)

Boomer55 · 19/09/2026 16:36

GreatPlumBiscuit · 16/09/2026 00:38

I have enough for a large deposit, but my work this year, although well paid, has been intermittent, so not stable enough to get a mortgage (I'm looking for a permanent job at the moment).

Well, as the only one responsible for you is you, as you are unmarried, I'd try and get a full time stable job as soon as possible

jdb9803 · 19/09/2026 18:09

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 19/09/2026 15:59

There is nothing that the op has said to suggest this is the case though (it could be we don’t know)

Which is why my initial post asked that very question - this was in response to someone suggesting by asking that I was saying she shouldn’t pay bills

BassBug · 19/09/2026 18:22

GreatPlumBiscuit · 16/09/2026 00:36

I've suggested this but he was really upset ... almost like I was dumping him.

Tell him straight that you aren't dumping him, you are dumping his disgusting bathroom. Personally? I would end the relationship : I'm worth more than that.

dandeliondandy · 19/09/2026 19:18

GreatPlumBiscuit · 16/09/2026 00:36

I've suggested this but he was really upset ... almost like I was dumping him.

Forgive my directness but how very 'dog in a manger' of him! He gets 50% discount on everything AND his own property if it breaks down AND I'll bet you cook, clean and wash for him too!

PLEASE get yourself sorted financially and do not rely on a man who is basically giving you the 'how long is a piece of string' response when you try to pin him down on committment (which you deserve BTW).

He sounds deeply complacent but you can't afford to be at this stage of your life.

dandeliondandy · 19/09/2026 19:20

GreatPlumBiscuit · 16/09/2026 00:57

Yes, ridiculous isn't it. But it's so hard to leave someone who declares such love for me.... I'm hoping with all my heart that he won't fuck up what we have by not committing... he always says when I bring it up that if anything happened to him I'd be better fine as I have some money in the bank.

Love is deeds as well as words.

BeAzureRaven · 19/09/2026 19:20

Yes, you are being unreasonable to stay in this situation. You are extremely vulnerable. Can you buy yourself another smaller place? If you can't afford to do that, I would try to find a rental that you can afford. A man is never a plan.

dandeliondandy · 19/09/2026 19:22

Darling, if he was going to propose, he would have done it by now. Please don't tie your self worth to his actions.

BeAzureRaven · 19/09/2026 19:23

GreatPlumBiscuit · 16/09/2026 00:36

I've suggested this but he was really upset ... almost like I was dumping him.

'he was really upset'--I'll bet he was. He's currently getting all the benefits of a live in gf plus help with finances. Let him be upset all he wants. Not your problem. Your problem is that you have no security in case things go south.

dandeliondandy · 19/09/2026 19:25

Not at all. Sometimes we all need an outside perspective but I suspect we are all just confirming what you already know deep down x

BeAzureRaven · 19/09/2026 19:31

GreatPlumBiscuit · 16/09/2026 00:57

Yes, ridiculous isn't it. But it's so hard to leave someone who declares such love for me.... I'm hoping with all my heart that he won't fuck up what we have by not committing... he always says when I bring it up that if anything happened to him I'd be better fine as I have some money in the bank.

You can 'hope' all you want, but I can tell you right now he's never going to commit. The years are going to fly by even faster for you (I'm 67 now and it feels like an hour ago that I was 50) and you need to shake him off and get yourself set up in a secure situation.

BeAzureRaven · 19/09/2026 19:34

GreatPlumBiscuit · 16/09/2026 01:03

I'm scared to leave him.

There, I said it.

Sunken cost fallacy and all that.

Nearly 5 years of living in a shit area, for what.

I am so cross with myself.

But I have a devil on my shoulder saying ... stay... what if he was going to propose or make sure you were provided for... he was going to do it soon... but you left before he could fo it....

You're going to be even more cross when you're really old and totally fucked. And you will be if you don't get out. Why in the world would he commit to you? He's already tested you for 5 years and seen that you don't value yourself. Why should he?

Barney16 · 19/09/2026 19:42

You need to buy a property for yourself. In your current situation you are vulnerable a) if he dies, because you aren't married. b) he's calling the shots basically, he can't be arsed to fix the ensuite. That upsets you AND makes you too anxious to insist. You talk about marriage, he isn't bothered. He's basically ignoring your concerns, thoughts and feelings. I would be more bothered by b) to be honest.

BeAzureRaven · 19/09/2026 19:51

GreatPlumBiscuit · 16/09/2026 01:50

When my first husband left me for his mistress, I lost everything, it took me a long time to recover, buy a house, sort myself out. I was on friend's sofas and a bag lady for a long time.

Then I met the most wonderful man, sold up and moved in with him. I absolutely believed that we'd be building a future together and I'd be feeling secure and happy after nearly 5 years.

However, all I feel like I'm doing at the moment is compromising where I live, paying half his bills, Im tied to where we live because he has school age children, he refuses to do any home improvements and if anything ever happened to him, or us, Id just be out on my arse, homeless and starting all over again. I had the energy (just) in my mid forties to rebuild a shattered life. But don't fancy doing that again, anytime, but certainly not in my 50s/60s.

Wtf am I doing!!!

I used to roll my eyes at my grandfather when he said I shouldn't have moved in with my boyfriend. (What do old people really know anyway, haha?) He'd ask me: "Why would a man buy a cow when he's getting the milk for free?" But you know what, I've apologized to my grandfather (even though he's long gone and I'm a grandmother myself now) because he was right. If a woman wants marriage, she shouldn't ever move in with her man until the knot is tied. I'd never do it again. (and yes, I know there are exceptions, but still)

OldHackKidsInTow · 19/09/2026 22:00

You can make a cohabitation agreement and wills, and if he doesn't agree to this, its a deal breaker ,I'd say. I know its hard, but you're not happy and he's not making you feel secure, is he? Its immature of him, and its doing your future self a disservice to carry on as you both are.
Has he got family you can talk to about it? Invest your hard cash in something long term, a 5 year investment. Get some free advice. Do SOMETHING , and you won't feel so rubbish.
Its none of his business what you do with your other money if you're paying your way in this arrangement.
Has he got kids and an unfinished business with an ex ,who will inherit ?

OldHackKidsInTow · 19/09/2026 22:07

Boomer55 · 19/09/2026 16:36

Well, as the only one responsible for you is you, as you are unmarried, I'd try and get a full time stable job as soon as possible

...a job in the council or NHS with a pension ideally. OP, You are running out of time to take a mortgage into retirement, which is possible, if u have enough occupational pension to see you through to aged 70/75

OldHackKidsInTow · 19/09/2026 22:07

...a job in the council or NHS with a pension ideally. OP, You are running out of time to take a mortgage into retirement, which is possible, if u have enough occupational pension to see you through to aged 70/75

StarDolphins · 19/09/2026 22:27

GreatPlumBiscuit · 16/09/2026 00:49

I am blundering, coasting, hoping he'll give me the security I'm asking for.

It hurts even more, knowing that he knows the financial abuse I put up with for years, and how I struggled to rectify everything financially after my first husband left me.

Edited

So raise your standards and get yourself out of this vulnerable position. Buy a property and either move into it or rent it out. No point coasting when you can take control
of your life. You dp won’t make sure you’re ok, so you need to. Don’t be in a position where you’re looking back on 2 abusive relationships.

You can still date him but please ensure financial stability always.

Glidinglikeaswan · 19/09/2026 22:58

GreatPlumBiscuit · 16/09/2026 00:57

Yes, ridiculous isn't it. But it's so hard to leave someone who declares such love for me.... I'm hoping with all my heart that he won't fuck up what we have by not committing... he always says when I bring it up that if anything happened to him I'd be better fine as I have some money in the bank.

Words are easy, it's actions that count.

Catdaddy1978 · 19/09/2026 23:15

GreatPlumBiscuit · 16/09/2026 00:36

I've suggested this but he was really upset ... almost like I was dumping him.

He doesn’t sound that great. Get yourself your own place. Seriously.

Fyr · 19/09/2026 23:44

BeAzureRaven · 19/09/2026 19:23

'he was really upset'--I'll bet he was. He's currently getting all the benefits of a live in gf plus help with finances. Let him be upset all he wants. Not your problem. Your problem is that you have no security in case things go south.

What an arsehole, letting his gf live rent free for 5 years....

Wonderfrau · 20/09/2026 02:28

Mumtobabyhavoc · 16/09/2026 00:52

"Am I being stupid to just carry on coasting along?"

Yes. 💯
You've done exactly what you said you never would again. I doubt he's as lovely as you claim.
he won't give you equity in the home you contribute to;
he shouts you down;
you're not in his will after 5 years and living together;
he won't legalize your relationship;
he denies your financial security.

Look for a very affordable home/flat to rent now.
If you are able to buy now then do it instead.
Leave him without notice.

Edited

He won’t give her equity because she hasn’t contributed towards the acquisition of the home or increased its value (hence his refusal to allow her to contribute to home improvements)

She has only lived with him for 4.5 years and simply paid half of living expenses, no doubt reducing her own expenses living in a single person household considerably.

She hasn’t contributed towards the home and is not entitled to a share of an asset he acquired before she came along.

I am shocked how many people here think he should give her a share in this asset. I fully understand why he is reluctant to marry her: He is worried about losing the house he has bought and paid for, if their relatively short relationship breaks down.

Does he have children? I expect he intends to leave this asset to his children in the event of his death.

OP needs to take advantage of the financial help he is giving her by allowing her to live in his house, presumably rent free, and accumulate her own wealth from her full time work. Buying another smaller flat would have been a good idea on the sale of the former matrimonial home and is something to consider now.

Would OP consider buying a percentage share of her partners property by giving him the proceeds of her house sale/ ISAs? A bad idea in my opinion, as releasing her asset from the house in the case of breakup would be reliant upon him being able to buy her back out.

He is no more a monster than she is, hoping to receive security from and a share of something she didn’t contribute to in return for a pretty short relationship. Neither has any obligation to provide for the other.

Wonderfrau · 20/09/2026 02:59

GreatPlumBiscuit · 16/09/2026 00:49

I am blundering, coasting, hoping he'll give me the security I'm asking for.

It hurts even more, knowing that he knows the financial abuse I put up with for years, and how I struggled to rectify everything financially after my first husband left me.

Edited

It is not financial abuse. You are no more vulnerable now than you were before he let you move in with him, presumably rent free? He probably feels as though he’s giving you a good deal. You haven’t given him the proceeds of sale from your former home, have you? If you have, then disregard the rest of this post.

Has he ever said he intends to give his estate to you, if he dies? Does he not have children who would expect to inherit his property in the event of his death?

You have a relatively short relationship and have brought nothing financial into it. So I am not sure why you are hoping for any financial security from it.

I agree with PP. You must continue to take responsibility for yourself. The idea of a shared ownership purchase might be worth considering.

If he has children, I would fully expect them to inherit his house when he dies and they will no doubt give you notice to leave. Their relationship with him is much longer established and you asking him to marry and make a will must surely be giving him red flags!

He has no obligation to house you. If he doesn’t have children, you perhaps have a better chance of persuading him that being his relatively short term partner entitles you a share of such a substantial asset that he has probably paid towards during most of his adult life. The divorce courts would consider a marriage of 5 years to be short in duration, so each party would be likely to take out what they brought in, unless they have children together, which you don’t. If you had been living together for 30 years, the position might feel different. I just think it’s too soon to be seeking financial and housing security from this man, so you need to make your own plans.

He will not be allowing you to contribute towards home improvements, as anything that you contribute towards that increases the value (so it needs to be more than just decorating etc) could give you a claim towards a share of the house. At the moment, you have no claim, as you’ve contributed nothing.

Please consider if the roles were reversed. Imagine a man in his 50s moved in with you, but retained the proceeds of sale from his former home for himself. You bought the house you now live in and paid off the mortgage with your hard earned cash some time ago. You probably want your children to inherit your property asset, but this boyfriend of 4.5 years thinks he should have the house if you die or at least be allowed to live in it, preventing it passing to your children for potentially 30-35 years. He can earn good money, but his income is sporadic as he hasn’t secured a permanent job yet. Everyone would call him a grifter. The fact he is pressuring you to marry him or make a will would send your family and friends into a complete frenzy to LTB!

OldHackKidsInTow · 20/09/2026 09:52

I think not mentioning HIS CHILDREN in the opening original comment , then bringing them in several comments later has confused a lot of us into thinking that he's coasting along , not wanting to discuss the future, but in fact he probably finds it difficult to put into words something that is obvious for parents, is that the kids come first.

Trying to explain that to someone who it seems doesn't have such concerns is probably very difficult and risks breaking the relationship, which is what you're considering.

Having said that, he could make a cohabitation agreement through a solicitor that you have permission to live there after his death for a certain length of time, as long as you pay the maintenance, then the house would be sold to go to his children.

In my work, I have seen this, where there are no children, but adult siblings who stand to inherit, but permission is granted to remain housed in a deceased partner's home.

You need to maybe sign some declaration that if you do fix things now, like the en suite, that you don't make a claim on the property if you split up. Meanwhile invest your money elsewhere so you have independent means. That would be very adult.

What would also be very adult is to EDIT YOUR ORIGINAL POST TO MENTION HIS CHILDREN !
We're being mis-led otherwise.