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AIBU to keep dd at home due to repeated incidents at school?

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Gertrudethechicken · 14/09/2026 18:18

Dd is 5 and has only been back at school a few weeks. Today her teacher pulled me aside to tell me that two boys thought it would be funny to draw on the back of her cardigan with a black marker. She apologised but I don’t care about the cardigan however I am concerned that she is becoming a regular target for these boys. I have now found out that this wasn’t the only thing that happened today. Apparently the boys also broke a model DD had made and ruined some of her artwork. DD apparently retaliated by drawing on their artwork, and all three children got into trouble.

The teacher said she’s having “a lot of bother” with DD and these boys and that they all need reminding to keep their hands and feet to themselves. I have also since found out that last week one of the boys became upset with another child, then hit DD before running off to the bathroom. I don’t know whether the school are aware of the full circumstances of that incident.
I’m concerned that there may have been more hitting/shoving etc. than DD has told me about. She’s five and isn’t necessarily going to give me a detailed account of everything that happens during a school day.

The teacher spoke to DD and told her she needs to make “good choices” and suggested she plays with the girls instead because of these boys as they are getting her into trouble. DD is now saying she doesn’t like school because “they’re mean to me” and that she wishes one of the boys was still in nursery. I’m absolutely not saying DD is blameless. If she retaliated by drawing on their artwork, that’s obviously not acceptable either. But I’m uncomfortable with the solution being that she should just avoid these boys. If they’re repeatedly hitting, pushing, damaging her belongings/work or deliberately doing things to her, surely the adults need to manage that rather than expecting a five-year-old to avoid them? I’m considering keeping her home for abit while I speak properly to the school and find out exactly what has been happening and what they’re going to do about it.i am also aware that I may be overreacting and she is my first child and I had awful bullying at school so am sensitive to it.

OP posts:
SandyHappyPerson · 17/09/2026 11:04

PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 16/09/2026 18:42

Well, since you ask…

she’s learnt that school is optional. If she doesn’t feel like it she doesn’t have to go.

not only does she not have to go, but you’ll take her out for a fun trip instead.

she seemed to be standing up for herself, which is great. She will have to deal with knobbers her whole life, so it’s a good life lesson to learn. But instead of that, you’ve not modelled the behaviour you want to see from her, but rather have modelled that when situations are tough you run away and you don’t deal with it. You’ve run away, rather than going to school.

also, if she needs to learn to make good choices, she’s not blameless here. However, that’s been ignored and lost.

you’ve reframed the conversation. When you spoke to school it was going to be a conversation about the boys behaviour and her behaviour and how to move on. Now it’s a conversation about why she’s not in school. It would have been so much easier to make your point without muddying those waters.

I think poster like you are being ridiculous to be honest. I've got a 5 year old girl, and I agree with the sentiment that she should be in school, but imo I think I would be doing what OP is doing, although I'd be inclined to go into the school.

If she doesn’t feel like it she doesn’t have to go.
This is the school's failure to step in and protect her, all she has learned at this point is if she is bullied and hurt, her mum will step in.

she seemed to be standing up for herself, which is great.
No, she retaliated to ongoing UNCHECKED bullying by two boys, then got in trouble herself.

also, if she needs to learn to make good choices
She has been told to 'stay away from them', but how is that achievable in a small classroom, I'm sure she was staying perfectly away from them when they drew all over her artwork? ruined her cardigan? She wasn't playing with them when that happened? but then it's easier to get the victim to change their behaviour to not attract the attention of the bullies, what the hell is THAT teaching?

I feel like posters like you are teetering into the disgusting 'boys will be boys' category, where two boys to ganging up and bullying a lone girl because she is an easy target is wrote of as hi-jinx.. the school should be all over that, but they haven't even been arsed to contact OP, says it all really about their care and attention to student welfare.

What she should be learning is that if she is bullied, her clothes ruined, her artwork ruined and she's been hit, or she feels unsafe attending, then the school will take action to stop it. Our school is pretty hot on this sort of thing, we've had some incidents with a couple of boys doing quite nasty things to my daughter, they are never allowed to get away with it, so while she sometimes feels upset by it, she will go back knowing the teachers are there to stand up for her, THAT is what the school should be doing in OPs case and they are failing.

Drivethyme · 17/09/2026 11:17

@SandyHappyPersonI agree with much of your post. The school is prolonging this.

Bringemout · 17/09/2026 11:34

Xanhi · 16/09/2026 18:31

Telling a child that they need to make 'good choices' means that your DD is choosing to get involved in silly/bad behaviour. Telling your daughter she should avoid these boys means she is seeking them out. A lot of children like messing about and hitting each other. They find it immensely fun. When they get hurt or get told off, they get upset and blame the others.

Ask who she would like to play with instead and tell her to join in with them.

Nope, my DD’s friend was punched in the face by a boy, she was told to be “more resilient” it’s just bullshit because most schools have trouble being honest that some kids are little shits and it’s all about being inclusive so we are super kind to bullies instead of directly telling them their behaviour is awful and they need to shape up. It’s rubbish like restorative justice thats permeated our schools. Needs to go.

This little girl is not responsible for the behaviour of boys.

midlifenewlife · 17/09/2026 11:48

You shouldn’t just send her in regardless but rather than just keeping her off and waiting. Go into the school. With her and request to speak to the head/safeguarding lead there and then.

explain your DD can’t attend until you have spoken to someone. Make it their problem to resolve instead of waiting and then you’ll just get moaned at about attendance.

Theunamedcat · 17/09/2026 12:45

fashionqueen0123 · 16/09/2026 17:50

Wow that is unprofessional!

She apologised later genuinely thought it was me as a parent being too much I thought i was being moderate asking for the separation of all parties you cant agree with everyone 🤷‍♂️

Pixiedust49 · 17/09/2026 13:03

This is insane I genuinely can’t believe what I’m reading 😮

NoelEdmondsHairGel · 17/09/2026 13:30

You have just taught your daughter that she can get out of school when she doesn’t like something. You have taught her that she doesn’t need to be resilient, and can drop out when things get tough.

The sort of thing you are talking about happens every day in schools around the country. You’ve done very little to find a solution as an adult, just let a small child get her own way.

Good luck trying to manage school refusal when she’s older. Good luck to her and her employers when she’s an adult.

Waitingforthistopass75 · 17/09/2026 13:53

You really need to step up and parent here. Every child experiences something upsetting in their school career. It isn’t your job as a parent to shield from every possible upset but to be in it with her and navigate it to solve things when they do. You need to show her you’re supporting her in the difficulties.
You do this by taking her to school but seeing the teacher or the head first. I agree that DD should stand up for herself and that it’s the teachers job to manage the behaviour of the children and to stop the boys from hurting her.
However, it also does sound like you DD has made some silly choices too. And you don’t know that the boys haven’t been spoken to and told to make better choices too.
Nobody is saying your daughter should tolerate the behaviour and school do need to really step up here. But you haven’t handled this well at all.

Drivethyme · 17/09/2026 15:14

I think school haven’t handled it well, at the time of the events and since. It’s perfectly reasonable to expect someone in the school to have responded by now and nipped this in the bud.

Some of the comments on this thread remind me of programmes showing harassment in the workplace in the 80s. OP hasn’t gone up or kept her child off in the first instance. She wants it dealt with by one of the adults who should not be telling her to get on with it, but should be dealing with it.

At my school there was a child who was subjected to horrible racial abuse and the school did nothing. She tried to ignore it and was sought out. One day she retaliated with a comment and was told she’d given as good as she got and the violence was also overlooked. Sometimes schools need a push to deal with things and be the adults. For all OP knows, her DC is the bully - she needs to know this. If it’s equal, she needs to know this. If her DC is being bullied, she needs to know this and so do the parents of the other children involved.

If the school had said they’ll keep an eye out, will arrange a meeting and in the meantime say they will get to the bottom of it, that probably would have sufficed for OP. They haven’t even done that. It’s really poor. They’ve done nothing, except tell a kid to make better choices. How can the child choose whether someone draws on her or breaks her things? The teacher and the school could make better choices.

Maybe OP could have said her child was unwell as some schools seem to respond to that with a visit by day three.

Gertrudethechicken · 17/09/2026 20:07

I had a good chat with the deputy head today, and we have put an actual plan in place that I am happy with. DD has also gone back to school. I don’t regret letting her off those two days at all. I am somewhat saddened by the amount of parents who would send their children into school to be bullied for the sake of resilience. No wonder children’s mental health services are struggling to cope! So sad.

OP posts:
Gertrudethechicken · 17/09/2026 20:16

Waitingforthistopass75 · 17/09/2026 13:53

You really need to step up and parent here. Every child experiences something upsetting in their school career. It isn’t your job as a parent to shield from every possible upset but to be in it with her and navigate it to solve things when they do. You need to show her you’re supporting her in the difficulties.
You do this by taking her to school but seeing the teacher or the head first. I agree that DD should stand up for herself and that it’s the teachers job to manage the behaviour of the children and to stop the boys from hurting her.
However, it also does sound like you DD has made some silly choices too. And you don’t know that the boys haven’t been spoken to and told to make better choices too.
Nobody is saying your daughter should tolerate the behaviour and school do need to really step up here. But you haven’t handled this well at all.

To be fair the head and deputy head have three different schools that they oversee so it’s not like I can just pop in for a chat. You have to make an appointment, which is what I was trying to do in the first instance. It’s the same with the teacher, need an appointment to have anything beyond a maybe two minute chat at the gates.

OP posts:
Gertrudethechicken · 17/09/2026 21:17

sesquipedalian · 15/09/2026 15:41

OP, what are you going to gain by keeping her off school? You have two choices: speak to the teacher and see what can be done, while telling DD to stay well away from the two boys, or change her school. It’s not OK to let DD think that if she falls out with someone at school, then she gets to have a day off. My DD had problems at school - the day she refused to get dressed, I actually just put her coat on over her underwear, took her in and got her dressed once I got there. It didn’t happen again. I did, eventually, change schools for her, though, and she was a changed child.

Do you think your daughter benefited from being forcibly brought to school in her underwear when she was having problems and probably very upset?

OP posts:
BlueMum16 · 17/09/2026 21:55

Gertrudethechicken · 17/09/2026 20:07

I had a good chat with the deputy head today, and we have put an actual plan in place that I am happy with. DD has also gone back to school. I don’t regret letting her off those two days at all. I am somewhat saddened by the amount of parents who would send their children into school to be bullied for the sake of resilience. No wonder children’s mental health services are struggling to cope! So sad.

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You do realise that resilience is something DC learn. That you have to help them with?

Children do not need MH services at 5 because another child is mean. Your DC has already learnt to stand up for themselves but by keeping them off you are saying it ok to study home when it's a little bit tough and mummy will sort it.

fashionqueen0123 · 17/09/2026 21:59

Gertrudethechicken · 17/09/2026 20:07

I had a good chat with the deputy head today, and we have put an actual plan in place that I am happy with. DD has also gone back to school. I don’t regret letting her off those two days at all. I am somewhat saddened by the amount of parents who would send their children into school to be bullied for the sake of resilience. No wonder children’s mental health services are struggling to cope! So sad.

Edited

That’s good. I think it’s pretty dreadful they took that long to come back to you though.

itsmeitsyou · 17/09/2026 22:02

Gertrudethechicken · 17/09/2026 21:17

Do you think your daughter benefited from being forcibly brought to school in her underwear when she was having problems and probably very upset?

Lesson
When mum says get dressed from now on, the child gets dressed. This was a lesson learned the hard way in this posters childs case.
Sometimes children push boundaries that cannot be pushed.
One of mine had to be carried in daily for 2 weeks. All because they wanted to be in the other class with their friend from nursery. I could of insisted DC was moved. However it was a lesson reinforced kicking off doesn't get you your own way. I need to work to pay the bills, the children need to be in school. It wasn't a battle I was fighting for them.

BooksandSlippers · 17/09/2026 22:10

Gertrudethechicken · 17/09/2026 20:07

I had a good chat with the deputy head today, and we have put an actual plan in place that I am happy with. DD has also gone back to school. I don’t regret letting her off those two days at all. I am somewhat saddened by the amount of parents who would send their children into school to be bullied for the sake of resilience. No wonder children’s mental health services are struggling to cope! So sad.

Edited

Hmm, I suspect things will continue to be difficult. You do need to remember that you only have one side of the story and the teacher was very clearly, but gently, trying to get you to see that she was very much a part of the poor behaviour going on. Hopefully her own behaviour will also improve.

BooksandSlippers · 17/09/2026 22:11

Gertrudethechicken · 17/09/2026 20:16

To be fair the head and deputy head have three different schools that they oversee so it’s not like I can just pop in for a chat. You have to make an appointment, which is what I was trying to do in the first instance. It’s the same with the teacher, need an appointment to have anything beyond a maybe two minute chat at the gates.

And why wouldn't you?! What an odd comment.

eeemes · 17/09/2026 22:40

I agree with PP…giving days off school so soon into term, rather than teaching her strategies to cope, is a big mistake. This isn’t bullying, it’s 5 year olds being a bit silly and the child needs to learn how to handle it sooner rather than later. You are passing your anxiety about it onto your daughter, when this is when you really need to show your strength and that you have her back and that isn’t by caving at the first uncomfortable thing.

Drivethyme · 17/09/2026 23:50

Gertrudethechicken · 17/09/2026 20:07

I had a good chat with the deputy head today, and we have put an actual plan in place that I am happy with. DD has also gone back to school. I don’t regret letting her off those two days at all. I am somewhat saddened by the amount of parents who would send their children into school to be bullied for the sake of resilience. No wonder children’s mental health services are struggling to cope! So sad.

Edited

That’s good you have a plan in place. I hope things work out.

sesquipedalian · 18/09/2026 08:37

@ Gertrudethechicken -
My DD did understand that it was not OK to refuse to get dressed and go to school - sometimes, you just have to be the parent, difficult though that may be. If you let your DC think that school is negotiable, you’ll always have trouble. Having said that, if there are ongoing problems, they need to be addressed, and in the final analysis, perhaps changing schools might be the best solution - it was for us.

Shelby1981 · 19/09/2026 13:49

Gertrudethechicken · 17/09/2026 20:16

To be fair the head and deputy head have three different schools that they oversee so it’s not like I can just pop in for a chat. You have to make an appointment, which is what I was trying to do in the first instance. It’s the same with the teacher, need an appointment to have anything beyond a maybe two minute chat at the gates.

In my experience, even if the head/deputy head arent in school that day, there is always a member of the Senior Leadership Team “on duty” for issues that come up. I’d think that if an issue was bad enough for you to feel that your dd couldn’t go to school, they would’ve made time to see you - if you’d asked.

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