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AIBU to keep dd at home due to repeated incidents at school?

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Gertrudethechicken · 14/09/2026 18:18

Dd is 5 and has only been back at school a few weeks. Today her teacher pulled me aside to tell me that two boys thought it would be funny to draw on the back of her cardigan with a black marker. She apologised but I don’t care about the cardigan however I am concerned that she is becoming a regular target for these boys. I have now found out that this wasn’t the only thing that happened today. Apparently the boys also broke a model DD had made and ruined some of her artwork. DD apparently retaliated by drawing on their artwork, and all three children got into trouble.

The teacher said she’s having “a lot of bother” with DD and these boys and that they all need reminding to keep their hands and feet to themselves. I have also since found out that last week one of the boys became upset with another child, then hit DD before running off to the bathroom. I don’t know whether the school are aware of the full circumstances of that incident.
I’m concerned that there may have been more hitting/shoving etc. than DD has told me about. She’s five and isn’t necessarily going to give me a detailed account of everything that happens during a school day.

The teacher spoke to DD and told her she needs to make “good choices” and suggested she plays with the girls instead because of these boys as they are getting her into trouble. DD is now saying she doesn’t like school because “they’re mean to me” and that she wishes one of the boys was still in nursery. I’m absolutely not saying DD is blameless. If she retaliated by drawing on their artwork, that’s obviously not acceptable either. But I’m uncomfortable with the solution being that she should just avoid these boys. If they’re repeatedly hitting, pushing, damaging her belongings/work or deliberately doing things to her, surely the adults need to manage that rather than expecting a five-year-old to avoid them? I’m considering keeping her home for abit while I speak properly to the school and find out exactly what has been happening and what they’re going to do about it.i am also aware that I may be overreacting and she is my first child and I had awful bullying at school so am sensitive to it.

OP posts:
Gertrudethechicken · 16/09/2026 17:03

fashionqueen0123 · 16/09/2026 16:59

Has she been off again today? Have you called them again?

She was off again. I didn’t call them again as i
emailed them yesterday and they said someone would be in touch although I kind of expected someone to have been in touch today. Is this unrealistic? I will email again tomorrow if I don’t hear anything.

OP posts:
fashionqueen0123 · 16/09/2026 17:04

Gertrudethechicken · 16/09/2026 17:03

She was off again. I didn’t call them again as i
emailed them yesterday and they said someone would be in touch although I kind of expected someone to have been in touch today. Is this unrealistic? I will email again tomorrow if I don’t hear anything.

I think you need to be calling them or going down there with her in the morning or you're going to get into a tricky pattern. I wouldn't just sit at home waiting. They sound pretty odd to not be calling you asap though. They should also be calling to see why she isn't at school!

Pedant61 · 16/09/2026 17:08

Gertrudethechicken · 14/09/2026 21:30

i can’t do that, I feel like that’s quite dismissive of her.

But you're the parent so, yes, this is what you have to do. By all means reassure her, and speak to the teacher, but a 5 year old doesn't get to decide.

Itsbeenalongtimeincoming · 16/09/2026 17:09

You know school isn’t optional right?

You are teaching your child if they don’t like something that they don’t have to do it, that if there is a problem you will swoop in and make it better, that they never have to deal with problems, uncomfortable feelings or issues.

I agree with others - the attitude has to be school isn’t optional.

You are doing you kid absolutely no favours by keeping them off and teaching them poor lessons for later. She asked to stay off cause she knew you would cave.

If there are kids hitting etc (which your child is no angel) then go in and speak to the teacher.

Honestly this is at a young age why so many kids develop mental health problems later in life.

ClaredeBear · 16/09/2026 17:13

You must do every single thing you can do aside from keeping her at home. I fear you’re making things worse.

PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 16/09/2026 17:17

She’s 5! She doesn’t get to call the shots here.

you’re projecting, and making a solvable situation a million times worse.

she needs to be in school tomorrow.

Gertrudethechicken · 16/09/2026 17:24

PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 16/09/2026 17:17

She’s 5! She doesn’t get to call the shots here.

you’re projecting, and making a solvable situation a million times worse.

she needs to be in school tomorrow.

How am I making it a million times worse? Don’t want an argument with a random on the internet but genuinely don’t see how it makes it worse. It might not make it better but that’s different from making it worse.

OP posts:
ClaredeBear · 16/09/2026 17:38

Gertrudethechicken · 16/09/2026 17:24

How am I making it a million times worse? Don’t want an argument with a random on the internet but genuinely don’t see how it makes it worse. It might not make it better but that’s different from making it worse.

This is really cheeky. You posted here wanting engagement and people have responded. Out of order to reduce this to “random”.

Theunamedcat · 16/09/2026 17:43

I had a similar thing (two against one) i spoke to the teacher and asked that they all be moved away from each other she said she didn't really see the need they just needed to leave each other alone I insisted dd be moved she made an immature hoo-ha in class telling dd mummy's making me move you within a week another child approached me asking if I could get them moved too 😂 the other two children were separated and it calmed down sometimes friends need not always be together

fashionqueen0123 · 16/09/2026 17:50

Theunamedcat · 16/09/2026 17:43

I had a similar thing (two against one) i spoke to the teacher and asked that they all be moved away from each other she said she didn't really see the need they just needed to leave each other alone I insisted dd be moved she made an immature hoo-ha in class telling dd mummy's making me move you within a week another child approached me asking if I could get them moved too 😂 the other two children were separated and it calmed down sometimes friends need not always be together

Wow that is unprofessional!

itsmeitsyou · 16/09/2026 17:59

Gertrudethechicken · 16/09/2026 17:24

How am I making it a million times worse? Don’t want an argument with a random on the internet but genuinely don’t see how it makes it worse. It might not make it better but that’s different from making it worse.

Another that says you need to take her back to school tomorrow. She shouldn't have been off the first day, let alone today also.

You need to help her to navigate these situations in life not hide from them!

Bluebeast · 16/09/2026 18:09

This is getting insane OP. You're keeping her off based on her telling you she doesn't want to go in? There is no safeguarding concern; she hasn't been visciously attacked - this is 2 boisterous boys acting like dicks; her school life will be full of them. Shes proven she can stick up for herself - all she is learning here is that if she kicks off or complains about a bit of bad behaviour she gets to stay off of school. If she turns out to just hate school in general she'll be trying to pull these cards all the time.

BeEagerRubyBird · 16/09/2026 18:19

A lot of this seems to be coming from your daughter rather than the teacher, is that right OP? You say the teacher told you about the pen, and that you have since found out about a number of other things that you're not sure they are fully aware of? You do need to recognize that you almost certainly don't have the full story here , kids of this age almost invariably don't fess yo to what they did, or even recognize that they did something wrong in, say, knocking over their model first, for example (not saying she did but just to illustrate). I was out with a friend and their child recently and they went over to their mum screaming and crying about how my child had hit them and they had done absolutely nothing, totally omitting they'd first hit my child with a rock despite me actually seeing it and telling them not to.

There is a lot of children annoying each other and 'being mean' at this age and frankly that could just mean they took the glue when another kid wanted to keep it, or whatever. I'm not saying there is no need for action, and probably what is taking the time is that the school are trying to get to the bottom of things, but you cannot take your five year old's word as gospel here.

Hummingbird233 · 16/09/2026 18:23

I’d be furious with the school. In our school, if the boys did that, they’d have to spend the rest of the day in another classroom with people they don’t know.

It’s not “bother”, it’s bullying. They need to up their game, else I’d look for another school. It’s really not worth the dent on her confidence if the school can’t manage the behaviour.

Xanhi · 16/09/2026 18:31

Telling a child that they need to make 'good choices' means that your DD is choosing to get involved in silly/bad behaviour. Telling your daughter she should avoid these boys means she is seeking them out. A lot of children like messing about and hitting each other. They find it immensely fun. When they get hurt or get told off, they get upset and blame the others.

Ask who she would like to play with instead and tell her to join in with them.

PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 16/09/2026 18:42

Gertrudethechicken · 16/09/2026 17:24

How am I making it a million times worse? Don’t want an argument with a random on the internet but genuinely don’t see how it makes it worse. It might not make it better but that’s different from making it worse.

Well, since you ask…

she’s learnt that school is optional. If she doesn’t feel like it she doesn’t have to go.

not only does she not have to go, but you’ll take her out for a fun trip instead.

she seemed to be standing up for herself, which is great. She will have to deal with knobbers her whole life, so it’s a good life lesson to learn. But instead of that, you’ve not modelled the behaviour you want to see from her, but rather have modelled that when situations are tough you run away and you don’t deal with it. You’ve run away, rather than going to school.

also, if she needs to learn to make good choices, she’s not blameless here. However, that’s been ignored and lost.

you’ve reframed the conversation. When you spoke to school it was going to be a conversation about the boys behaviour and her behaviour and how to move on. Now it’s a conversation about why she’s not in school. It would have been so much easier to make your point without muddying those waters.

TheGrandTourNew · 16/09/2026 18:46

You really do need to take her in to school. Unless you want to homeschool, in which case, withdraw her.
Tell her not to play with the boys and ask the teacher to keep them apart as much as possible.

BlueMum16 · 16/09/2026 18:52

Gertrudethechicken · 16/09/2026 17:24

How am I making it a million times worse? Don’t want an argument with a random on the internet but genuinely don’t see how it makes it worse. It might not make it better but that’s different from making it worse.

By allowing a 5 year old to refuse school.
School is non negotiable. Get her there tomorrow.
Speak to the teacher, speak to the Head. Tell your DD to keep hand and feet to herself and avoid the boys.

You cannot allow her to opt out of school just because it's difficult today.

BooksandSlippers · 16/09/2026 19:37

Gertrudethechicken · 16/09/2026 17:24

How am I making it a million times worse? Don’t want an argument with a random on the internet but genuinely don’t see how it makes it worse. It might not make it better but that’s different from making it worse.

By allowing it to become a far bigger deal than it is. I'm afraid you are really very misguided in the way you have and are continuing to deal with this and are teaching your child a very poor lesson.

Banjas · 16/09/2026 19:45

LadyUrsula · 14/09/2026 18:44

I would ask the teacher to describe in detail what is happening. For example, is DD starting any of these episodes herself or is she merely responding to what the boys have done to her? I think that's crucial information you need before taking any action.

I fully agree.

Drivethyme · 16/09/2026 20:01

I’m surprised school haven’t contacted you. That’s pretty poor form.

somanychristmaslights · 16/09/2026 20:22

You need to send her into school and book a meeting in with the teacher. You’re hearing one side of the story and it sounds like your DD isn’t innocent in all this. You need to find out the facts. Agree with others that you’re teaching her just to run from problems.

SoVeryVeryBored · 16/09/2026 23:15

Gertrudethechicken · 16/09/2026 17:24

How am I making it a million times worse? Don’t want an argument with a random on the internet but genuinely don’t see how it makes it worse. It might not make it better but that’s different from making it worse.

Kindly, you are making it worse as you are giving her the message that school is optional, and that she can opt out of difficult or unpleasant things. Unfortunately those are not good life lessons overall or the beat way to build resilience,.plus it will be harder to get her back in to school.

Talk to her, stand up for her but don't remove her form the situation for what is a very low level issue.

symmetrymaybe · 16/09/2026 23:27

Gertrudethechicken · 14/09/2026 21:30

i can’t do that, I feel like that’s quite dismissive of her.

As her parent, this is exactly what you need to do. You cannot show her that staying off of school for "ABIT" is a solution. You appear to think that the teacher's suggestion was terrible, yet this suggestion would simply be part of a bigger solution by a busy teacher many other things to consider - such as her learning. Keeping her off is a very slippery slope and sends the wrong message to her. Being a secondary teacher, I can promise you, you do not want to go down this road! Try to model positive behaviour and reactions the best you can and not that hiding from difficult situations is ever a solution. Is this your first child by any chance? By child two or three, you will look back and realise how silly you are being.

Bloodysquirellls · 16/09/2026 23:45

It’s impossible to know. These two boys could be little shits. And/ or your DD could be as much to blame.

You cannot trust a 5yo word. It’s 60% at best of times.

ie.
I have a son who’s allergic to lying and I have seen literally with my own eyes scenarios where he is adamant he has been the victim of a major injustice - and it’s no, you were a part of that and that was 100% going to be the outcome for someone - it just happened to be you.

Likewise I have seen plenty little shits. They do exist.

Both scenarios can interact and the best advice really is stay away from them.

You cannot just keep off school - I assume she has just started. This will be affecting her ability to form friendships. It will be harder to join back in the longer you leave it. This is important term for social groups forming.