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The mum thinks I'm being petty, but I don't want to drive her kid

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AvacadoChic · 12/09/2026 10:12

I have a friend with two daughters. One is 14 and the other is 7. The 7 year old took a long time to conceive and the mum was delighted when she was finally pregnant, as a result the girl is very doted on. The 14 year old is treated more like a nusiance and in my opinion, the 7 year old is allowed to be quite unkind to her.

The 7 year old doesn't follow rules and has been banned from my house in the past for things like taking my make up and using it to paint my son's wall and mirror while the adults were downstairs. The mum has always been strict with the older child, but not at all with the younger one. The mum did clean up the mess, but the child wasn't at all bothered.

About a year ago I was giving them both a lift along with my own kids and the 7 year old started laughing at the 14 year old for wearing a bra, and the older girl became really embarrassed and uncomfortable. I kept telling the younger one to stop, but that made her say it even more and louder. I told her to stop shouting while I'm driving but she just continued. If she had have been older, I'd have kicked her out of the car, but I couldn't, so I continued to drive her home. By the end of the journey, I was so angry as she had humiliated her sister in front of her friends and laughed at my attempts at discipline. At one point in the journey, I said that if she doesn't stop now, she is never getting in my car again, which was a bit over the top, but I had run out of anything else to say. But anyway, that did nothing.

When I dropped them off, I told the mum, who later text me to say she had sent both girls to their rooms and that she is very sorry. The family don't have a car and I have continued to offer the older girl lifts but have refused to drive the younger one. The mum thinks I have made my point and should stop being so petty, but I think that the child is no better behaved now and if I back down on this, then she knows that she can behave however she likes with me.

This evening there is an event which my and her children are going to. The mum has again asked for a lift and it will be difficult for them to get there without someone driving them. It wouldn't be much out of my way to take them, but I don't want to back down on this. If another parent pickes them up, it will be more of a hassle than if I did it because we live so close together, but I don't want to be the kind of person who says one thing and then does another when people put pressure on me. AIBU?

OP posts:
ErinBell01 · 13/09/2026 23:41

I think that I would reiterate to the mother that I'd said I wouldn't give her 7 year old a lift ever again, but having thought about it I realise that over the last year she might have matured a bit and be able to sit quietly in the car. So you'd like the mother's assurance that this will be the case? If the mother says yes, she will sit quietly, you say that's great, but if there are any outbursts I'm afraid that I will have to stop the car and you and your younger daughter can walk home as it's not safe for me to drive with arguments going on. Good luck!

TriciaA1991 · 14/09/2026 07:53

I cannot understand why the mother sent BOTH girls to their rooms - why punish older daughter for younger's bad behaviour??
How about saying you will do a trial journey IF older daughter sits in front and younger sits in back with mother and entertains herself, making sure she sits still, behaves and does NOT distract you or be horrible to anyone and shows you that she can behave without her mother indulging her - which would give you a way back for an emergency in the future??
Good luck

OhNoooooooooooooooo · 14/09/2026 08:03

Purplecatshopaholic · 12/09/2026 12:27

This is what I came on to say too. Everyone deserves a second chance in my book. Give her just the one. If she misbehaves I would ban her indefinitely.

Nah. Why bother? The kid getting places isn't OPs problem.

OhNoooooooooooooooo · 14/09/2026 08:04

TriciaA1991 · 14/09/2026 07:53

I cannot understand why the mother sent BOTH girls to their rooms - why punish older daughter for younger's bad behaviour??
How about saying you will do a trial journey IF older daughter sits in front and younger sits in back with mother and entertains herself, making sure she sits still, behaves and does NOT distract you or be horrible to anyone and shows you that she can behave without her mother indulging her - which would give you a way back for an emergency in the future??
Good luck

Or how about....not?

It's not OPs problem how the children get around.

LarryForPrimeMinister · 14/09/2026 08:20

Yanbu. The mum needs to stop asking for lifts and sort her spoilt brat of a child out. Obviously isn't parenting properly if its still a problem a entire year later.

L0V315 · 14/09/2026 09:06

The 'friend' called the op petty?

All those that are saying that they would give the 7 year old another chance, why would you, when the mother is being obnoxious and calling the op names?

Seriously?

That is not the action of someone being friendly.

blondeboobshell · 14/09/2026 09:10

I would offer a lift if mum is in the car but be clear she is responsible for her DDs behaviour

AlwaysExtraHot · 14/09/2026 09:14

I think a car ban on a child who will not stop shouting while someone is driving is perfectly reasonable, never mind any of the other behaviour. I wouldn't take this child anywhere again for safety reasons, apart from anything else.
I do think driving one child but not the other is creating a division, though. Although it's not fair on the older child, a blanket 'I will not drive your children anywhere any more' would be more straightforward.

HoraceCope · 14/09/2026 09:18

i dont think you can do this personally
the issue is her behaviour towards her sister
give her another chance

Superscientist · 14/09/2026 10:30

Like others, I was the older sibling at the mercy of a younger sibling.

We both go reprimanded if she had done anything, I was told to put up with her behaviour and abuse. She had an explosive temper and a cruel streak. The day I was diagnosed with anorexia she told me I didn't need to starve myself, if I didn't want to be fat I just needed to exercise more. My mum sat back and said nothing.

There were times when we were out in public where if I told her off for her behaviour and actions towards me and my mum would tell me off as highlighting my sisters behaviours might make others think she's a bad mum.

I learnt very early on that my needs don't matter, be the voice that supports the 14 yo

Kirschcherries · 14/09/2026 10:56

TriciaA1991 · 14/09/2026 07:53

I cannot understand why the mother sent BOTH girls to their rooms - why punish older daughter for younger's bad behaviour??
How about saying you will do a trial journey IF older daughter sits in front and younger sits in back with mother and entertains herself, making sure she sits still, behaves and does NOT distract you or be horrible to anyone and shows you that she can behave without her mother indulging her - which would give you a way back for an emergency in the future??
Good luck

I cannot understand why the mother sent BOTH girls to their rooms - why punish older daughter for younger's bad behaviour??

The thinking is the older daughter has to also be punished to show the younger daughter she is being treated fairly. The older daughter by merely existing winds her sister up so needs to be punished equally.

Only punishing the younger daughter would lead to an epic tantrum the parents don’t know how to manage. So they resort to relying on the elder daughter to be the bigger person and the “good girl” who won’t kick up a fuss.

The patterns are already embedded and will carry through their adult lives or until the older daughter says no and means it.

There are many older daughters who recognise this scenario.

godmum56 · 14/09/2026 11:01

HoraceCope · 14/09/2026 09:18

i dont think you can do this personally
the issue is her behaviour towards her sister
give her another chance

of course the OP can do it! Why do you think she can't?

godmum56 · 14/09/2026 11:02

TriciaA1991 · 14/09/2026 07:53

I cannot understand why the mother sent BOTH girls to their rooms - why punish older daughter for younger's bad behaviour??
How about saying you will do a trial journey IF older daughter sits in front and younger sits in back with mother and entertains herself, making sure she sits still, behaves and does NOT distract you or be horrible to anyone and shows you that she can behave without her mother indulging her - which would give you a way back for an emergency in the future??
Good luck

the OP has said that she knows there is no change in either the behaviour ir the dynamic.

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 14/09/2026 11:05

Why are you friends with someone who treats their 14 year old as a nuisance? What redeeming features can this woman possibly have that makes up for that?

HoraceCope · 14/09/2026 11:36

dont be a hero
she is your friend

OhNoooooooooooooooo · 14/09/2026 11:45

blondeboobshell · 14/09/2026 09:10

I would offer a lift if mum is in the car but be clear she is responsible for her DDs behaviour

Why is OP responsible for getting the family anywhere?

She owes them NOTHING.

Tuesdayschild50 · 14/09/2026 11:54

Stick to your guns you did the right thing calling this behaviour out .. at 7 she sounds like a brat and the older sister unfairly treated its not on.
Id do the same my answer would be no ill take 14yr old anywhere but not 7 yr old as she was awful in your car.

ItsOkItsDarkChocolate · 14/09/2026 11:55

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 12/09/2026 12:53

I think you've made the right call here.

Ordinarily I would have said give them a second chance after a year. But the Mum punished the older girl, didn't want to hear any of the details and didn't get the 7 year old to apologise to you.

The ban isn't really for the 7 year old IMHO but for the Mum.. who seemingly still hasn't learned her lesson.

I would still offer 14 year old occasional lift but I think you are right to stand firm. Its the Mum who needs to learn from the ban and act accordingly. Hopefully its a wake up call. Not a case of you being petty at all

also @AvacadoChic - you are not a free taxi. She's obviously been managing for the past year, so you are clearly not their only option. If the child has'nt changed, you'd only have to go through the same process again and it sounds from your post as though this has made you feel very bad about it. But you were not in the wrong.

Edited to add.. just seen far from being grateful for previous loads of previous lifts she had the bare face cheek to order you to "stop being so petty"and comply with her demands. Very dim way to ask someone for a further favour having abused the priviledge in the first place. Both she and her DD7 sound through ugly unpleasant. How dare she!

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@AvacadoChic

This.

Mum, and sadly younger child, sound like bullies.

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 15/09/2026 09:29

AvacadoChic · 12/09/2026 12:25

The child still has the same personality as a year ago and the family dynamics haven't changed. The majority seem to agree with me, so I think I'll stick to the ban. I do feel bad for the older child, but we're not close enough for me to do anybody special with her. She's a bit of a shy child, so she would find spending time with an unrelated adult quite awkward.

The 7 year-old child never apologized, did she? That is one of the reasons I'm glad you are sticking to what you said. I doubt she has changed because she has no reason to change. She has at least her mother wrapped around her little finger.

As for the older girl, she hasn't had a chance to be outgoing since her sister hogs the limelight and the attention.
Since she doesn't really have anyone on her side, she will find someone to give her attention and a way to forget her pain. If she doesn't, she'll just keep making herself smaller and smaller while her sister continues to act to big for her britches, as my Mom used to say.

Nettie1964 · 15/09/2026 10:36

I have seen this dynamic played out time and time again. Its so damaging for the scape goat and doesnt end to well for the golden child. The 7 yr old sounds horrible to be frank. Stick to your boundary. Other incidents will happen and maybe the parents will see how unfair their behaviour is. 1 friend of mine had a beautiful water colour done of the youngest golden child running across a beach. It was done from a photo of both children the eldest was simply erased. They even had the original very art photo framed it was really shocking.

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