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Masked men at Dover - KKK vibes

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MumofCandR · Yesterday 11:53

They are utter cowards and hypocritical. The same ilk will state they're against the burkha and protests by environmental groups etc. but are happy to mask their faces in 'protest' the reality is they're just nasty specimens of humanity, full of people with self righteous white supremacy tendencies. AIBU.

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Mooselander · Yesterday 13:35

Oh don’t be so dramatic.

The song that comes to mind is We’re Not Gonna Take It by Twisted Sister.

mugglewump · Yesterday 13:48

It does feel very threatening and I would feel very uncomfortable being anywhere near them. Religious reasons apart, people only cover their faces and heads when they do not wish to be identified, presumably because know they are doing, or will be tempted to do, something illegal and ominous. I find all this far right behaviour very disturbing.

MumofCandR · Yesterday 14:10

Mooselander · Yesterday 13:35

Oh don’t be so dramatic.

The song that comes to mind is We’re Not Gonna Take It by Twisted Sister.

Sounds like you're a supporter of this outlandish behavior? Shame on you.

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Mooselander · Yesterday 14:16

MumofCandR · Yesterday 14:10

Sounds like you're a supporter of this outlandish behavior? Shame on you.

Unfortunately we are past the point of no return. They are not listening. The situation is incredibly dangerous.

Something more has to be done and there are going to be dire consequences.

jeaux90 · Yesterday 14:17

OP look the thugs on the left do this too. Also threatening and cowardly. The amount of women’s rights things I’ve been to and the men turn up with their black masks and outfits threatening any women for centering women (rather than the men with special lady feelz) this is not a right or left behaviour but it is male behaviour

millymollymoomoo · Yesterday 14:21

So you’re ok with pro pally /antifa thugs shouting abuse/ covering faces but these people who are protesting to stop the criminal treasonous abuse of our borders is thuggish —- hmmm ok then

ThatJadeLion · Yesterday 14:25

No I don't get great vibes from the men at Dover. I equally don't get the greatest vibes from the thousands of unknown men every year arriving on our shores.

Fridgemanageress · Yesterday 14:28

Every demonstration that has happened in the last few years everyone has had their faces covered.

Thankfully our country is still a democratic society where within the law, freedom of speech is acceptable.

There are plenty of countries around the world where freedom of speech is not allowed, women rights are non existent, and people are dictated too how they choose to live their lives.

whatever yours or my opinion of these demos, we do have the freedom to protest - be very careful siding with people who want to erode peoples rights

Fridgemanageress · Yesterday 14:29

millymollymoomoo · Yesterday 14:21

So you’re ok with pro pally /antifa thugs shouting abuse/ covering faces but these people who are protesting to stop the criminal treasonous abuse of our borders is thuggish —- hmmm ok then

No more than the Palestinian demos in central London recently

LoyalMintOtter · Yesterday 14:31

Out in force today

MumofCandR · Yesterday 14:33

millymollymoomoo · Yesterday 14:21

So you’re ok with pro pally /antifa thugs shouting abuse/ covering faces but these people who are protesting to stop the criminal treasonous abuse of our borders is thuggish —- hmmm ok then

Who said I was ok? You've just made that up. Don't let facts get in the way of thinly veiled whataboutery.

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SomeoneIsWrongOnTheInternet · Yesterday 14:35

ThatJadeLion · Yesterday 14:25

No I don't get great vibes from the men at Dover. I equally don't get the greatest vibes from the thousands of unknown men every year arriving on our shores.

I was thinking this.

Also that the right to protest is not as extensive as it once was and Starmer opened the Labour government’s term of office with an absolute clampdown on protests. If these men showed their faces would they be straight to jail? Of course there were questions about the organisation of those protests, with the timing.

Nothing is simple nowadays, and in reality, the inclusion of large numbers of men from all over the world without any integration is one of the (several) reasons why not.

MumofCandR · Yesterday 14:35

Fridgemanageress · Yesterday 14:28

Every demonstration that has happened in the last few years everyone has had their faces covered.

Thankfully our country is still a democratic society where within the law, freedom of speech is acceptable.

There are plenty of countries around the world where freedom of speech is not allowed, women rights are non existent, and people are dictated too how they choose to live their lives.

whatever yours or my opinion of these demos, we do have the freedom to protest - be very careful siding with people who want to erode peoples rights

Freedom to protest is absolutely sacrosanct - covering faces with balaclavas is not protesting it's thuggery. Every protest in the last few years has not had that, that's a statement not based on fact. Your post has a tone of cynical whataboutery.

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Dibdibbob · Yesterday 14:36

Mooselander · Yesterday 14:16

Unfortunately we are past the point of no return. They are not listening. The situation is incredibly dangerous.

Something more has to be done and there are going to be dire consequences.

This. People are generally very concerned about the continuing numbers of unvetted, young men coming from various countries where their cultural “values” are so different to ours.

these people are unskilled, uneducated and are very likely to be net takers from a UK that is already massively struggling financially. Servicing the UK debt is costing more than defence I believe! We simply cannot afford to accommodate all these people and there is the added danger from these men who have no understanding of consent it seems.

I’ve been saying for ages that I fear we will see increasing civil unrest and more right wing extremism. I really feel for the hard working migrant families that have made a life here who may now be targeted because of the problems caused by the small boat influx.

But of course, voicing these concerns makes me racist and no government seems willing or able to really tackle the influx.

newmenewwhatever · Yesterday 14:37

Everyone is entitled to protest and unfortunately they are allowed to do it covering their faces.
I didn’t get kkk vibes of them yesterday.
i genuinely thought it was quite amazing that so many stupid people had found each other

Fridgemanageress · Yesterday 14:39

MumofCandR · Yesterday 14:35

Freedom to protest is absolutely sacrosanct - covering faces with balaclavas is not protesting it's thuggery. Every protest in the last few years has not had that, that's a statement not based on fact. Your post has a tone of cynical whataboutery.

And your cynical tone is to start up unpleasantness and hatred!

ownedbymydogs · Yesterday 14:40

I know you’re trying to foment outrage and fear but do calm down dear. Most people are a bit bemused as to why they’re trying to stop cross channel ferries.

dustabsorber · Yesterday 14:40

At least they're protesting about something that is happening in the UK and not something that is happening in the Middle East. The majority of UK citizens want the boats stopping.

MumofCandR · Yesterday 14:43

Fair points around face covering in either left or right extremist groups, I guess the common factor is extremism, cowardly behavior and that's not tolerable in a civilized society when it's clearly used to intimidate. It wasn't a legal protest.

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MumofCandR · Yesterday 14:43

dustabsorber · Yesterday 14:40

At least they're protesting about something that is happening in the UK and not something that is happening in the Middle East. The majority of UK citizens want the boats stopping.

The majority? Love bold statements without evidence.

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dustabsorber · Yesterday 14:47

MumofCandR · Yesterday 14:43

The majority? Love bold statements without evidence.

59 per cent want the Navy to be used to stop small boats.

yougov.com/en-gb/daily-results/20250919-86198-2

CarbootJunction · Yesterday 14:49

The sight of them made my sad heart soar.

At last, England roars.

Visiblyabove25 · Yesterday 14:49

Fridgemanageress · Yesterday 14:28

Every demonstration that has happened in the last few years everyone has had their faces covered.

Thankfully our country is still a democratic society where within the law, freedom of speech is acceptable.

There are plenty of countries around the world where freedom of speech is not allowed, women rights are non existent, and people are dictated too how they choose to live their lives.

whatever yours or my opinion of these demos, we do have the freedom to protest - be very careful siding with people who want to erode peoples rights

You are right, we do have the right to protest. It’s a core British value. But so is the rule of law and for a protest to be legal, you need to give notice to the police that it is happening, stick to pre-planned routes and not obstruct critical infrastructure. These men yesterday did not of that.

MumofCandR · Yesterday 14:51

dustabsorber · Yesterday 14:47

59 per cent want the Navy to be used to stop small boats.

yougov.com/en-gb/daily-results/20250919-86198-2

That's not what it says. A small sample of 5500 people would use the army to stop small boats. It's a question about methodology that could be employed IF you were to stop them. That's not the same as 59% of the country wanting to stop small boats.

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