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to expect 51 year old DH not to look at 20 year olds?

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GrossedoutGertrude · 01/09/2026 00:50

Good relationship on the whole however DH does have a large ego that comes with him training pretty excessively in my opinion and often complimented on his physique

No kids together however he has a DD of 14 and my DS is 21.

I am 41 and he is 52 and looks his age face wise I would say but body much younger.

A girl in a coffee shop today walked past our table as I was paying and his eyes followed her all the way out of the door - he turned to watch her leave as he didn’t realise I could see him from where I was

She was wearing a very tight short black dress so I can see how you would look initially however the following her with his eyes grossed me out especially as she was about 20.

I’ve never seen him do this so obviously and we’ve been together 8 years.

OP posts:
Absolutelynot2 · 02/09/2026 00:54

OtterlyAstounding · 02/09/2026 00:52

Absolutely. I think that many men who are blatant enough for their ogling to be noticed want to be seen - it's part of the thrill, for them. They like the sense of dominance it gives them. Because it's just so easy to be discreet, as you say.
He's probably known at the gym amongst the younger women, as the old perv who blatantly slobbers, and who still thinks he could pull them. Yuck.

100% - it's always a choice to be so blatant, so why make that choice? I can't think of a single non creepy reason.

JillyComeLately · 02/09/2026 01:28

OtterlyAstounding · 02/09/2026 00:52

Absolutely. I think that many men who are blatant enough for their ogling to be noticed want to be seen - it's part of the thrill, for them. They like the sense of dominance it gives them. Because it's just so easy to be discreet, as you say.
He's probably known at the gym amongst the younger women, as the old perv who blatantly slobbers, and who still thinks he could pull them. Yuck.

I agree 100%.
Thank God I am older now. When I was younger I would often wear glasses with plain lenses, pull my hair back, wear a big coat, just so I could go about my business in peace.
I didn't realise it at the time, but it was often deliberate intimidation that gives some men a sense of power.
Age brings freedom from lecherous creeps.

SummerAsh · 02/09/2026 09:25

Let’s be real here…. A young, attractive woman goes out in public in revealing, figure-hugging clothes precisely because she wants to revel in her sexuality and be recognised as hot by the men and women she passes… she wants to be an object of desire.

Equally, she does NOT want to be made uncomfortable from being gawped at, crudely propositioned, catcalled or stalked. And she most definitely does not want to be assaulted! To be crystal clear as I suspect some posters will accuse me otherwise if i don’t: NO WOMAN IS ASKING TO BE RAPED, NO MATTER WHAT SHE’S WEARING!

Yes, she’d prefer that those admiring her sex appeal were just her female contemporaries and hot young men, but by consciously choosing to dress like that in public, as an adult (and 20 is definitely an adult for such purposes), she has decided that she is willing to expose herself to the lustful, admiring or jealous impulses of everyone she encounters!

It doesn’t matter how much older or less attractive women hate it, or try to shame men into suppressing their biological instincts, the vast majority of hetrosexual men - whether they are 20 or 80 - will find a young woman who has chosen to flaunt her body extremely attractive and will feel lust for her… young women know this, and dress like this anyway (at least those who choose to dress like that), knowing and even revelling in it.

As for the OP’s DH, he has merely responded to the woman in the way she invited…. He wasn’t intrusive, he didn’t intimidate her or make her feel uncomfortable (she was in his line of vision), and he certainly didn’t crudely proposition or inappropriately touch her! He was at fault in that he looked a little too long and wasn’t subtle enough so that the OP caught him… all whilst the young woman wasn’t adversely affected at all, and got kind of the attention she was inviting… In the grand scheme of things, he committed a pretty minor faux pas, and he’ll be more careful next time - no harm done unless the OP unduly escalates this out of jealousy.

JenRummy · 02/09/2026 09:25

arethereanyleftatall · 01/09/2026 07:46

Have you written this as if you think that because many men do it, it makes it alright?!? Strange if so. It makes every single one of them grim, entitled pervs. Women need to be single more!

No. Not alright at all.

SummerAsh · 02/09/2026 09:29

JillyComeLately · 02/09/2026 01:28

I agree 100%.
Thank God I am older now. When I was younger I would often wear glasses with plain lenses, pull my hair back, wear a big coat, just so I could go about my business in peace.
I didn't realise it at the time, but it was often deliberate intimidation that gives some men a sense of power.
Age brings freedom from lecherous creeps.

Men should never intimidate or leer, or act in any way that makes a woman uncomfortable. It’s disgusting that there are so many men who are pervs and do this… but there’s a lot of conflation here and other posts with the OP’s DH, who by the OP’s account, didn’t behave in this manner.

TotaleclipseinFrance · 02/09/2026 10:05

Again some young men find older women attractive. What else is there to say.

Disturbia81 · 02/09/2026 10:09

SummerAsh · 02/09/2026 09:25

Let’s be real here…. A young, attractive woman goes out in public in revealing, figure-hugging clothes precisely because she wants to revel in her sexuality and be recognised as hot by the men and women she passes… she wants to be an object of desire.

Equally, she does NOT want to be made uncomfortable from being gawped at, crudely propositioned, catcalled or stalked. And she most definitely does not want to be assaulted! To be crystal clear as I suspect some posters will accuse me otherwise if i don’t: NO WOMAN IS ASKING TO BE RAPED, NO MATTER WHAT SHE’S WEARING!

Yes, she’d prefer that those admiring her sex appeal were just her female contemporaries and hot young men, but by consciously choosing to dress like that in public, as an adult (and 20 is definitely an adult for such purposes), she has decided that she is willing to expose herself to the lustful, admiring or jealous impulses of everyone she encounters!

It doesn’t matter how much older or less attractive women hate it, or try to shame men into suppressing their biological instincts, the vast majority of hetrosexual men - whether they are 20 or 80 - will find a young woman who has chosen to flaunt her body extremely attractive and will feel lust for her… young women know this, and dress like this anyway (at least those who choose to dress like that), knowing and even revelling in it.

As for the OP’s DH, he has merely responded to the woman in the way she invited…. He wasn’t intrusive, he didn’t intimidate her or make her feel uncomfortable (she was in his line of vision), and he certainly didn’t crudely proposition or inappropriately touch her! He was at fault in that he looked a little too long and wasn’t subtle enough so that the OP caught him… all whilst the young woman wasn’t adversely affected at all, and got kind of the attention she was inviting… In the grand scheme of things, he committed a pretty minor faux pas, and he’ll be more careful next time - no harm done unless the OP unduly escalates this out of jealousy.

Edited

Found the man 😂

Disturbia81 · 02/09/2026 10:09

JillyComeLately · 02/09/2026 01:28

I agree 100%.
Thank God I am older now. When I was younger I would often wear glasses with plain lenses, pull my hair back, wear a big coat, just so I could go about my business in peace.
I didn't realise it at the time, but it was often deliberate intimidation that gives some men a sense of power.
Age brings freedom from lecherous creeps.

Late 40s and it’s worse for me now than ever, still waiting to be invisible from sleazy men.

Disturbia81 · 02/09/2026 10:14

JillyComeLately · 02/09/2026 00:02

He is an old man compared to the yound girl he is perving after.🙄

Exactly, it’s relative. So many excuses on here for creepy, weird men. If you are with a man who does this, because there are plenty who aren’t, then you need to rethink the relationship as you will always feel insecure as you age. I would never be with a man who didn’t feel fatherly towards younger women as I feel motherly to young men.

TotaleclipseinFrance · 02/09/2026 10:19

OtterlyAstounding · 01/09/2026 23:02

I find it amusing that you take issue with the word I use to describe a man old enough to be the father of young woman barely out of her teens blatantly slavering over her, and not the action of the man.

Eye-fucking is very accurate; having read and heard men talk about it, he's almost certainly thinking 'yeah I'd like to fuck that', not something so adorably mild as 'she's sexy', and even thinking 'she's sexy' is leching and objectifying – AKA eye-fucking.

I dont have an issue with age gaps, as someone who likes older men (as I said), but 20 and 50s is disgusting on the part of the older person. Generally, I think if the gap is bigger than half your age plus seven, the power differential and life stages are too different.

Nobody in real life particularly cares.
If she's 20, she's a young woman, not a girl or child.

There is such an obvious difference between a 12-year-old girl and a 20-year-old young woman that I find the nasty hints and accusations here about the p word wholly unwarranted.

People may think well that's one hell of an age gap, bitchily muse he must have money, women of his own age may be annoyed he's not picked them, other men may be envious etc but nobody in their right mind thinks that he's the p word. Nobody.

And you're not convincing me on the eye-f*ing thing.

You must have a very low opinion on men to think this.

I occasionally catch my dh having a quick glance at an attractive woman.
(BTW he tends to like older women as a rule so it's always them I see him looking at) I don't for one minute think he's eye-f*ing them, just thinking, 'wow she's hot.'

I joke about it. It's no big deal. He tries to be discreet.

SummerAsh · 02/09/2026 10:25

Disturbia81 · 02/09/2026 10:09

Found the man 😂

Erm, no! 🤷‍♀️

Just because I haven’t gone down the line of “all men are pigs for finding young women attractive” doesn’t mean I’m a man!

What have I said that’s actually wrong in my post? Ad hominem attacks (such as yours) tend to be because there’s nothing wrong with the content of what’s being posted, just that the respondent (you) doesn’t like the truth!

SummerAsh · 02/09/2026 10:29

Disturbia81 · 02/09/2026 10:14

Exactly, it’s relative. So many excuses on here for creepy, weird men. If you are with a man who does this, because there are plenty who aren’t, then you need to rethink the relationship as you will always feel insecure as you age. I would never be with a man who didn’t feel fatherly towards younger women as I feel motherly to young men.

I’m guessing there’s a tension in older men. Yes, decent ones will be fatherly… but that doesn’t remove their biological instinct! You can pretend “good” men don’t find young women sexually attractive, but you’re deluding yourself.

SummerAsh · 02/09/2026 10:31

@OtterlyAstounding

even thinking 'she's sexy' is leching and objectifying – AKA eye-fucking.

That’s one ridiculous leap to the extreme… A bit like saying wanting a sip wine means you’re a raging alcoholic!

Disturbia81 · 02/09/2026 10:37

TotaleclipseinFrance · 02/09/2026 10:19

Nobody in real life particularly cares.
If she's 20, she's a young woman, not a girl or child.

There is such an obvious difference between a 12-year-old girl and a 20-year-old young woman that I find the nasty hints and accusations here about the p word wholly unwarranted.

People may think well that's one hell of an age gap, bitchily muse he must have money, women of his own age may be annoyed he's not picked them, other men may be envious etc but nobody in their right mind thinks that he's the p word. Nobody.

And you're not convincing me on the eye-f*ing thing.

You must have a very low opinion on men to think this.

I occasionally catch my dh having a quick glance at an attractive woman.
(BTW he tends to like older women as a rule so it's always them I see him looking at) I don't for one minute think he's eye-f*ing them, just thinking, 'wow she's hot.'

I joke about it. It's no big deal. He tries to be discreet.

Your DH likes older women, you might feel differently if he’s sleazing over a 20 year old.

Disturbia81 · 02/09/2026 10:37

SummerAsh · 02/09/2026 10:29

I’m guessing there’s a tension in older men. Yes, decent ones will be fatherly… but that doesn’t remove their biological instinct! You can pretend “good” men don’t find young women sexually attractive, but you’re deluding yourself.

A tension? I’ve heard it all now 😂

babyproblems · 02/09/2026 10:38

Grim grim grim

Disturbia81 · 02/09/2026 10:39

SummerAsh · 02/09/2026 10:25

Erm, no! 🤷‍♀️

Just because I haven’t gone down the line of “all men are pigs for finding young women attractive” doesn’t mean I’m a man!

What have I said that’s actually wrong in my post? Ad hominem attacks (such as yours) tend to be because there’s nothing wrong with the content of what’s being posted, just that the respondent (you) doesn’t like the truth!

Your post was lecherous in itself, like you were revelling in it. You are projecting saying everyone is the same. Either YOU are one of the shitty men or you are with one, so making yourself feel better by saying that everyone is like that.

OtterlyAstounding · 02/09/2026 10:44

TotaleclipseinFrance · 02/09/2026 10:19

Nobody in real life particularly cares.
If she's 20, she's a young woman, not a girl or child.

There is such an obvious difference between a 12-year-old girl and a 20-year-old young woman that I find the nasty hints and accusations here about the p word wholly unwarranted.

People may think well that's one hell of an age gap, bitchily muse he must have money, women of his own age may be annoyed he's not picked them, other men may be envious etc but nobody in their right mind thinks that he's the p word. Nobody.

And you're not convincing me on the eye-f*ing thing.

You must have a very low opinion on men to think this.

I occasionally catch my dh having a quick glance at an attractive woman.
(BTW he tends to like older women as a rule so it's always them I see him looking at) I don't for one minute think he's eye-f*ing them, just thinking, 'wow she's hot.'

I joke about it. It's no big deal. He tries to be discreet.

No, I do agree, I don't think it's a sign of paedophilia, but I haven't said I did.

I've made it quite clear, I think, that 'eye-fucking' is very much like ogling - it's not a quick glance, or noticing someone passing through your vision, it's a blatant and prolonged lecherous stare. Men will at times leer very blatantly, in an almost predatory way that sometimes seems intended to be seen. It's quite unpleasant. And as I said, I've seen men talk about what they're thinking when they stare at a woman, and it's often crass.

I hope your husband isn't making other women uncomfortable.

Goditsmemargaret · 02/09/2026 10:44

OtterlyAstounding · 01/09/2026 23:07

'Eye-fucking' just means he was blatantly, crudely leching – its not about whether or not she notices. And he was. He turned his head to watch her go past, so he could soak up every little bit of her body for his visual pleasure, and keep her in his eyeline for as long as possible. It's pathetic, and disgusting.

Noticing is fine, but ogling is gross.

I really can't imagine feeling this angry about something so inconsequential. It sounds incredibly unhealthy.

OtterlyAstounding · 02/09/2026 10:45

Goditsmemargaret · 02/09/2026 10:44

I really can't imagine feeling this angry about something so inconsequential. It sounds incredibly unhealthy.

Why do you think I'm angry? (I'm not, incidentally).

OtterlyAstounding · 02/09/2026 10:48

SummerAsh · 02/09/2026 10:31

@OtterlyAstounding

even thinking 'she's sexy' is leching and objectifying – AKA eye-fucking.

That’s one ridiculous leap to the extreme… A bit like saying wanting a sip wine means you’re a raging alcoholic!

Really? Why? How is it not leching and objectifying? He's not admiring the woman as a person, after all - he's just getting some kind of (sexual?) satisfaction out of staring at her body.

TotaleclipseinFrance · 02/09/2026 11:12

OtterlyAstounding · 02/09/2026 10:44

No, I do agree, I don't think it's a sign of paedophilia, but I haven't said I did.

I've made it quite clear, I think, that 'eye-fucking' is very much like ogling - it's not a quick glance, or noticing someone passing through your vision, it's a blatant and prolonged lecherous stare. Men will at times leer very blatantly, in an almost predatory way that sometimes seems intended to be seen. It's quite unpleasant. And as I said, I've seen men talk about what they're thinking when they stare at a woman, and it's often crass.

I hope your husband isn't making other women uncomfortable.

Edited

You really are a weird mix of prudishness and crudeness.

Prudish because you class a glance at an attractive person as a terrible sin.

(Save your passive aggression about making women uncomfortable.)

Crude as heck for assuming that a man looking at an attractive woman is automatically eye-f*ing her instead of thinking, 'she's nice.'

TotaleclipseinFrance · 02/09/2026 11:20

Goditsmemargaret · 02/09/2026 10:44

I really can't imagine feeling this angry about something so inconsequential. It sounds incredibly unhealthy.

Nor can I.
Man looks at young attractive young woman for longer than he should.

Bad manners? Yes.
Disrespectful to the wife? Yes.

Raging pervert? Hell no!!

OtterlyAstounding · 02/09/2026 11:21

TotaleclipseinFrance · 02/09/2026 11:12

You really are a weird mix of prudishness and crudeness.

Prudish because you class a glance at an attractive person as a terrible sin.

(Save your passive aggression about making women uncomfortable.)

Crude as heck for assuming that a man looking at an attractive woman is automatically eye-f*ing her instead of thinking, 'she's nice.'

Are you twisting my words on purpose, or is it a reading comprehension issue? I quite specifically said that a quick glance is fine, and that it's blatantly ogling that's gross.

I could say the same about you; you seem to think ogling women is fine, but you can't bring yourself to write the word 'fuck'.

And I'm not assuming - that is frequently what men think, particularly the sorts of men who blatantly ogle. Not always of course, but often.

UpDownAllAround1 · 02/09/2026 12:48

OP bailed out and don’t think
will add