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To almost feel a shred of sympathy for Tommy Robinson

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lazyahzydaysofsummer · 02/08/2026 10:55

He did a debate against Oxford university students recently.

His entire argument was destroyed. Every single point. Even Jacob Rees Mogg had to comment on how stupid he was.

It’s exposed what he really is - an ignorant, uneducated man who is so gripped by fear caused by a misunderstanding of the world around him, and it’s almost made me feel sorry for him. People like him have been failed - by society, by the education system, and by the people around them.

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BIossomtoes · 02/08/2026 23:56

Limecar · 02/08/2026 23:53

These statements are correct?

Isn’t the population of the UK like 65million

But less than a quarter were not born here.

A quarter of 65 million is.16.25 million.

Perhaps your statistic is including people who worked here temporarily and then returned home.

Half of the population are not foreign born.

Half of 65 million is 32.5 million.

So what is nonsense and what is correct?

That looks like gibberish to me.

Limecar · 02/08/2026 23:57

TooBigForMyBoots · 02/08/2026 23:51

Huh?

I get that it feels wick when you find out knowledgeable people know more than you. And did productive stuff to get justice for the victims.

Before some of you realised it was a problem. Before TR came into your lives. Seriously? Not being mean, but have a wee think about that.

If you are relying on any one man to tell you the news, nevermind that drug addled, treasonous, skank, you need to have a word with yerself.🙈🙈

I was responding to this question

Why is he a boogie man to so many people? It really is fascinating.

Efacsen · 03/08/2026 00:03

Limecar · 02/08/2026 23:53

These statements are correct?

Isn’t the population of the UK like 65million

But less than a quarter were not born here.

A quarter of 65 million is.16.25 million.

Perhaps your statistic is including people who worked here temporarily and then returned home.

Half of the population are not foreign born.

Half of 65 million is 32.5 million.

So what is nonsense and what is correct?

Let me try and make it simpler for you

You said that 15 million muslims had arrived in the UK in the last 30 years

The current UK muslim population is about 4,5 million [UK census]

So what has happened to the other 10.5 million [15 - 4,5 million]?

Persephonia1966 · 03/08/2026 00:03

Limecar · 02/08/2026 23:53

These statements are correct?

Isn’t the population of the UK like 65million

But less than a quarter were not born here.

A quarter of 65 million is.16.25 million.

Perhaps your statistic is including people who worked here temporarily and then returned home.

Half of the population are not foreign born.

Half of 65 million is 32.5 million.

So what is nonsense and what is correct?

For 15 million people to have arrived here in 30 years they would have to make up pretty much the entire number of people who are foreign born. To put it another way that means almost all of the people not born in the UK would have had to arrive here in the last 30 years. So no-one still alive today arrived in the UK before 1996? If you look at the population age that seems unlikely. Or, reverse it and consider that of all the total foreign born population of the UK about half arrived in the last 30 years. Which means the total number of foreign born people in the UK would have to have be twice your number of 15 million - 30 million or half of the UK total population. But that's not the case. As the other poster said but this confused you.

That's before you consider that of all the people in the UK who are foreign born every single one of them has to be a foreign born Muslim who arrived in the last 30 years to make what you said true.

And that's before you consider that the actual total number of Muslims in the UK is about 4.5 million and that number includes Muslims who were born here.

I would be interested in where you got your number of 15 million...

BIossomtoes · 03/08/2026 00:04

Persephonia1966 · 03/08/2026 00:03

For 15 million people to have arrived here in 30 years they would have to make up pretty much the entire number of people who are foreign born. To put it another way that means almost all of the people not born in the UK would have had to arrive here in the last 30 years. So no-one still alive today arrived in the UK before 1996? If you look at the population age that seems unlikely. Or, reverse it and consider that of all the total foreign born population of the UK about half arrived in the last 30 years. Which means the total number of foreign born people in the UK would have to have be twice your number of 15 million - 30 million or half of the UK total population. But that's not the case. As the other poster said but this confused you.

That's before you consider that of all the people in the UK who are foreign born every single one of them has to be a foreign born Muslim who arrived in the last 30 years to make what you said true.

And that's before you consider that the actual total number of Muslims in the UK is about 4.5 million and that number includes Muslims who were born here.

I would be interested in where you got your number of 15 million...

Tommy Robinson I expect.

Efacsen · 03/08/2026 00:05

BIossomtoes · 03/08/2026 00:04

Tommy Robinson I expect.

He's not very good at Maths is he

Daygloboo · 03/08/2026 00:07

lazyahzydaysofsummer · 02/08/2026 10:55

He did a debate against Oxford university students recently.

His entire argument was destroyed. Every single point. Even Jacob Rees Mogg had to comment on how stupid he was.

It’s exposed what he really is - an ignorant, uneducated man who is so gripped by fear caused by a misunderstanding of the world around him, and it’s almost made me feel sorry for him. People like him have been failed - by society, by the education system, and by the people around them.

He's the type who was around in Germany in the 1930s . And you know how that ended. He's a dangerous, violent man. Dont ever be taken in by his type. They are nothing but thugs.

HRTQueen · 03/08/2026 00:07

He isn’t uneducated he is just nasty

He has used his knowledge in promoting his vile views, stirred up more hate and anger and made himself some money at the same time

TooBigForMyBoots · 03/08/2026 00:13

Limecar · 02/08/2026 23:57

I was responding to this question

Why is he a boogie man to so many people? It really is fascinating.

Thanks for your reply.Thanks TR is not a boogie man. He's a racist, antisemitic, violent wanker, waster grifter.

Menopausalsourpuss · 03/08/2026 00:22

I realised during COVID that alot of/most people don't question anything that the BBC/telly box tell them and that's why TRis a "boogie man" to alot of people. I doubt they know anything much about him just what the telly told them. And doubt most of the people on this thread are curious enough to have actually watched this debate but will again rely on others with an agenda to tell them.

TicklishReader · 03/08/2026 00:27

It's boogeyman.

Boogie means dance, and no one wants to see him do that.

Efacsen · 03/08/2026 00:30

TicklishReader · 03/08/2026 00:27

It's boogeyman.

Boogie means dance, and no one wants to see him do that.

Oh thank you!

Was just googling boogie man because it made no sense in the context of Tommy ten names

TicklishReader · 03/08/2026 00:32

Efacsen · 03/08/2026 00:30

Oh thank you!

Was just googling boogie man because it made no sense in the context of Tommy ten names

Tommy ten names. Grin

converseandjeans · 03/08/2026 00:35

BIossomtoes · 02/08/2026 17:14

I think there are increasing numbers of Muslim people in charge in the UK - Sadiq Khan Mayor of London, Humza Yousaf was First Minister of Scotland, more are running councils in areas in Lancashire & West Midlands.

Isn’t that part of integration?

@BIossomtoesI was responding to someone who said there was no way that white British men would allow anyone Muslim to hold a position of power. But it’s not true as there are definitely Muslim men in positions of authority. I imagine that isn’t popular with TR or the Raise the Colour brigade. It seems to make them feel threatened & so they are acting up & being unpleasant.

TooBigForMyBoots · 03/08/2026 00:41

Tommy ten names is neither a boogie man nor a bogey man.

He's a violent, criminal, immigrant skank who lives in Spain.🤯

YourLemonLemur · 03/08/2026 00:41

Hmm did you see how panicked the room was when they thought Lawrence Fox might show a cartoon of Mohammed. It seemed like the Oxford union might have been concerned about reprisals. Including the muslim president. Which rather proves the point about Islam being a threat to free speech. Tommy Robinson didn’t speak well. I think whatever flaws he has, he was talking about the rape gangs when no one else was and that takes bravery.

TooBigForMyBoots · 03/08/2026 00:51

YourLemonLemur · 03/08/2026 00:41

Hmm did you see how panicked the room was when they thought Lawrence Fox might show a cartoon of Mohammed. It seemed like the Oxford union might have been concerned about reprisals. Including the muslim president. Which rather proves the point about Islam being a threat to free speech. Tommy Robinson didn’t speak well. I think whatever flaws he has, he was talking about the rape gangs when no one else was and that takes bravery.

The Times, the DM, the Beeb, The Sun, Mirror and C4 covered the rape gang scandal years before grifter TR did.

Bravery? Catch yerself on.🙄

Efacsen · 03/08/2026 00:53

YourLemonLemur · 03/08/2026 00:41

Hmm did you see how panicked the room was when they thought Lawrence Fox might show a cartoon of Mohammed. It seemed like the Oxford union might have been concerned about reprisals. Including the muslim president. Which rather proves the point about Islam being a threat to free speech. Tommy Robinson didn’t speak well. I think whatever flaws he has, he was talking about the rape gangs when no one else was and that takes bravery.

Hmm - the pretending to show an image of Muhammed was discussed at some length earlier in this thread - the concensus was that there was no panic just a ripple in the audience

Maybe worth going back and reading the discussion - rather than re-hashing it all again?

DdraigGoch · 03/08/2026 01:07

"Wee sleekit, cowering, timorous beasties"

Whether or not one agrees with JRM on a given subject, that's quite a put-down!

BlackRowan · 03/08/2026 01:16

Literally nothing here is making me feel empathy for him. He deserves empathy because he’s very stupid, really?

DdraigGoch · 03/08/2026 02:22

@GeneralPeter TR cited various acts and sayings drawn on the Quran or hadith that to modern secular ears are barbaric (treatment of homosexuals, those who have sex outside marriage, child marriage, treatment of prisoners of war, cleansing Muslim lands of Jews and Christians), in support of the argument that the West should be 'suspicious' of Islam.

Imagine what his reaction would be if he delved into the depths of the Old Testament.

GeneralPeter · 03/08/2026 04:13

DdraigGoch · 03/08/2026 02:22

@GeneralPeter TR cited various acts and sayings drawn on the Quran or hadith that to modern secular ears are barbaric (treatment of homosexuals, those who have sex outside marriage, child marriage, treatment of prisoners of war, cleansing Muslim lands of Jews and Christians), in support of the argument that the West should be 'suspicious' of Islam.

Imagine what his reaction would be if he delved into the depths of the Old Testament.

Throughout most of history it would have been very sensible to be suspicious of Christianity, especially if you were any of those things (gay, single mother, non-Christian, etc).

And that’s with the moderating force of the New Testament, of which there isn’t really an equivalent for Islam. (In fact sort of the reverse: the harsher bits of the Quran are the chronologically later ones and often given more weight for that reason).

Bluebeast · 03/08/2026 04:16

That's like saying you felt bad for the Nazis at Nuremburg. I dont think someone like this deserves sympathy without atonement.

Notkatie · 03/08/2026 05:57

YourLemonLemur · 03/08/2026 00:41

Hmm did you see how panicked the room was when they thought Lawrence Fox might show a cartoon of Mohammed. It seemed like the Oxford union might have been concerned about reprisals. Including the muslim president. Which rather proves the point about Islam being a threat to free speech. Tommy Robinson didn’t speak well. I think whatever flaws he has, he was talking about the rape gangs when no one else was and that takes bravery.

yes he did put the spotlight on the grooming gangs and highlighted that this was warned about by Sikh community as well

Shedmistress · 03/08/2026 07:07

5128gap · 02/08/2026 23:07

When Huw Edwards read the news, the clue is in the name. He literally read it. So while he is a heinous individual, there's no reason to doubt the validity of what was written on his autocue.
SYL is also a heinous individual known to be of bad character and a liar.
When he tells us things, he isn't reading an autocue like Edwards, he's making them up, all by himself. And on many occasions they have been proven false.
Do you see the difference now?

The point being made was IT IS THE SAME NEWS.