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Kids won't come to mums funeral, family blames me

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LounSue · 01/02/2025 12:42

Context, my wonder 88 year old mum passed away recently, we are all beyond devastated. Her funeral in on Monday. Today we met up with the extended family for a breakfast, the intention was my sister would host my siblings and I, plus all the kids and my mums brothers for a simple breakfast, discuss the plans for Monday and make sure everyone was on the same page.

Both my children (29 and 25) came, my son and his GF had to get an early train to be there. Everything was fine until my sister came over and asked why my son had just told her son he wasn't coming to the funeral, I was under the impression he was. He was very close to my mum, called her several times a week, visited often and took her to all sorts of things. I asked him and he said he didn't want to as funerals are a bunch of performative crap and half the people in the room couldn't be bothered with her when she was alive. My daughter then nodded and agreed and said she wouldn't be there either.
My sister lost it with them and raised her voice saying they were being selfish, as my mum had carefully planned every detail of her funeral and often spoke of how all the family would be together and it would likely be the last time (my dad passed in 2019, and some of my siblings aren't very close to others).
Both of my children walked out, DD's boyfriend came back in about 10 minutes later and got all of their coats/bags and said they were driving DS and his girlfriend back to London.
I tried to call both of my DC as did DH (not their dad) but no answers. Now my sister is saying it is my awful parenting that has caused this and my children are selfish.
This is made worse by my mother having left slightly more money to my DS than all the other grandkids (20k to most of them, 25k to DS and a further 7.5k to his girlfriend (they have been together for 4 years and she was very close to my mum). My sister seems to think he manipulated her into doing this, I don't think he did.
Then my DD posted on instagram or something a video of her and DS, his girlfriend and her boyfriend listening to very loud upbeat music in the car and my niece showed her mum and my sister is now saying it's so disrespectful they are doing that.

I think it's up to DC if they come to the funeral, even if my mum would have wanted them there. However I'm not sure why they came today if they aren't coming to the funeral.

How do I handle this? My sister is grieving as are we all so I'm trying to not get worked up at her reaction but I do think its made things worse.

AIBU to think DC are fine to do what they want and my sister has massively blown this out of proportion?

OP posts:
MissUltraViolet · 01/02/2025 17:31

I didn’t go to a funeral that a lot of you would argue I should have. I didn’t for a few reasons but mainly because other family members had invited a family of people that did not like the person that had passed, she also hated them right back.

It was an absolute farce. I said goodbye in my own way and I know for an absolute fact she was right there with me, laughing at the joke her funeral was. She would have told me to stay away if she could.

OP, your children put in the effort to make sure she knew they loved her when she was alive. That is what is important.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 01/02/2025 17:43

MumonabikeE5 · 01/02/2025 15:50

Wow your adult kids aren’t coming to their grannies funeral?!?!?!

I think they should be told by their parents that the appropriate thing to do in this situation is to attend the funeral, given it is a way to show respect for the person who has died.

You show respect for a person when they're alive. When they're dead it matters not.

Perhaps it is a fundamental difference of opinion and if so, nobody is really in the wrong? OP's sister though shouldn't be giving the OP a hard time about anything.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 01/02/2025 17:47

SALaw · 01/02/2025 16:32

@TimPat yes I can explain it - Suck. It. Up. And. Attend. Your. Grandmother's. Funeral.

Is there something wrong with your keyboard?

InterIgnis · 01/02/2025 17:51

peachesarenom · 01/02/2025 17:18

They went to the breakfast though so they clearly have some level of connection.

Sometimes you need others, sometimes they need you, such is life. You can't just do the things you value and need people for but then don't show up for the things they value.

If they don't want to know any of them at all then fine but choices have consequences. If, for example, they enjoy having their cousin in their life but then upset their cousins mother when she's grieving then good luck to them!

They went because they were led to believe they would be playing a part in the funeral, and that their aunts and cousins would treat them with a modicum of respect. When they were met with xenophobia and told that they wouldn’t be giving the speech they’d been asked to write, they left.

What do they need the aunt and cousins for? It doesn’t sound like they would expect the aunt and cousins to show up for them, or would think to ask them to. The consequences? You mean pissing off and alienating the people they don’t like and don’t care about it? Sounds like the desired outcome tbh, not a consequence to fear and thus avoid.

Boomer55 · 01/02/2025 17:52

I get that funerals are a bit out there at times, but your kids are old enough to just suck it up and attend. 🤷‍♀️. It’s what we do as adults. 🙄

peachesarenom · 01/02/2025 17:53

InterIgnis · 01/02/2025 17:51

They went because they were led to believe they would be playing a part in the funeral, and that their aunts and cousins would treat them with a modicum of respect. When they were met with xenophobia and told that they wouldn’t be giving the speech they’d been asked to write, they left.

What do they need the aunt and cousins for? It doesn’t sound like they would expect the aunt and cousins to show up for them, or would think to ask them to. The consequences? You mean pissing off and alienating the people they don’t like and don’t care about it? Sounds like the desired outcome tbh, not a consequence to fear and thus avoid.

Oh I hadn't read about the speech, or I missed it. Was it mentioned pre or post my initial response?

BunnyLake · 01/02/2025 17:54

Well having read the update I can see your dc’s pov a bit better now. You're ok with them not attending, so I’d just leave everyone to their own devices.

InterIgnis · 01/02/2025 18:00

peachesarenom · 01/02/2025 17:53

Oh I hadn't read about the speech, or I missed it. Was it mentioned pre or post my initial response?

His account, is he was going to come and he and DD had wrote a speech together, my brother (the eldest) had told them to do so. When they arrived today he showed my sister to check they weren't repeating anything anyone else was saying and she said it wasn't necessary they weren't speaking. She then said "You got what you wanted anyway didn't you", he asked what she meant and she said "money and your little girlfriend got some too, watch out you'll be next she rinses for money, her kind are good at that (Eastern European)"

Pre, I believe.

MinnieBalloon · 01/02/2025 18:03

YABU and your children are very selfish. I would too be questioning your parenting when you all think this is an acceptable reaction.

peachesarenom · 01/02/2025 18:03

InterIgnis · 01/02/2025 17:51

They went because they were led to believe they would be playing a part in the funeral, and that their aunts and cousins would treat them with a modicum of respect. When they were met with xenophobia and told that they wouldn’t be giving the speech they’d been asked to write, they left.

What do they need the aunt and cousins for? It doesn’t sound like they would expect the aunt and cousins to show up for them, or would think to ask them to. The consequences? You mean pissing off and alienating the people they don’t like and don’t care about it? Sounds like the desired outcome tbh, not a consequence to fear and thus avoid.

I've just had a read of OPs subsequent posts and it's awful treatment of OPs children and son's girlfriend.

That is unjustifiable I agree, I might consider swerving that funeral too.

I think it's sad because when I've attended funerals I've been really comforted to hear stories about the person who has died and to be comforted and comfort others who loved them. I'm sad the OP's children won't get that experience but it seems to be OP's sister who is causing the issue, shame on her. It's sad they won't be able to be with their grandmother's friends either

FindusMakesPancakes · 01/02/2025 18:03

LounSue · 01/02/2025 14:35

I've spoken to DS.

His account, is he was going to come and he and DD had wrote a speech together, my brother (the eldest) had told them to do so. When they arrived today he showed my sister to check they weren't repeating anything anyone else was saying and she said it wasn't necessary they weren't speaking. She then said "You got what you wanted anyway didn't you", he asked what she meant and she said "money and your little girlfriend got some too, watch out you'll be next she rinses for money, her kind are good at that (Eastern European)" he then said it was rich as she and her children only every called their gran for money and the last time he spoke to his gran about it her son owed my mum £3500 and her daughter owed her £6000. My sister then said it wasn't the time for that convo and he said fine and then said actually I won't be at the funeral as I don't appreciate the way you talk to my girlfriend (apparently his girlfriend said something to my sister when they arrived, asking where to put their coats and my sister said "sorry I don't speak Russian" she speaks perfectly clear English) and you are making this funeral all about the people who didn't care about my gran.

That is when my sister came over and told me.

My sister claims none of this happened and he is lying to make himself look better and has her children and my niece backing her up saying it never happened.

I cannot deal with this stress right now!

Where is your older brother in all this? He asked your son and daughter to write a eulogy. Why is he not putting your sister back in her box and telling her that her attitude is unacceptable?

Mamabear300 · 01/02/2025 18:16

Sorry you had to go through this! Similar happened at my dads funeral where siblings (7 of them and their husbands /wives) we're asked to move from the front rows to allow myself, sister and step sister, step mum and all the 9 grandchildren could sit up front they were not impressed and tried to cause a scene. Its the last thing you need when your grieving x

mummyh2016 · 01/02/2025 18:21

OP you need to speak to your brother.

NotTerfNorCis · 01/02/2025 18:21

We go to funerals out of respect for the dead. Their behaviour is selfish and shocking. They should be more concerned about what their grandma would have wanted.

NotTerfNorCis · 01/02/2025 18:23

Having read more, your sister was also out of line.

heroinechic · 01/02/2025 18:27

NotTerfNorCis · 01/02/2025 18:21

We go to funerals out of respect for the dead. Their behaviour is selfish and shocking. They should be more concerned about what their grandma would have wanted.

Who is this royal "we"?

I go to funerals to help me grieve and celebrate the life of the deceased with their family and friends.

If I wanted to simply show respect to the person that died I could take flowers to their grave at any time, have a moment of quiet reflection or take comfort in the respect I had shown them when they were alive (and had any idea what was going on!)

I wouldn't go to a funeral if I thought my girlfriend would be abused, my mother would be shouted at, I would be accused of manipulating the will of a family member etc. That is not respectful, comforting nor conducive to grief.

Itiswhysofew · 01/02/2025 18:40

Your DS, his DGF & DD could attend the funeral service, but not attend the afters.

Your DS can still give a reading. She was his & DDs DGM & they should show their respects, regardless of the way the rest of your family's behaving, who they'd be better off ignoring.

Sorry for your sad lossFlowers

Pickled21 · 01/02/2025 19:39

They turned up because they wanted to be a part of the funeral. They are adults now though and then way your sister spoke to them all was out of line. Honestly I wouldn't have wanted to remain in her house any longer either and there is never an excuse for her xenophobia. I would still turn up to the funeral though but not attend the wake as I would want to put my grandma to rest. Having said thay if they don't think they can as they don't wish to cause a scene or too much upset has been caused I'd encourage them to remember their beloved grandma in another way.

At some point you will need to talk to your sister about her behaviour because she is out of line. This isn't grief but greed and jealousy.

When we lost my grandad we had the funeral and did all the rites and lots of family friends attended. It was a busy, sombre period. When we finally got time to ourselves we went out for a meal and remembered the grumpy sod. We heard stories we had never heard, laughed, cried and remembered the man we all loved.

Sending lots of love to you all.

Silvers11 · 01/02/2025 21:18

LounSue · 01/02/2025 14:35

I've spoken to DS.

His account, is he was going to come and he and DD had wrote a speech together, my brother (the eldest) had told them to do so. When they arrived today he showed my sister to check they weren't repeating anything anyone else was saying and she said it wasn't necessary they weren't speaking. She then said "You got what you wanted anyway didn't you", he asked what she meant and she said "money and your little girlfriend got some too, watch out you'll be next she rinses for money, her kind are good at that (Eastern European)" he then said it was rich as she and her children only every called their gran for money and the last time he spoke to his gran about it her son owed my mum £3500 and her daughter owed her £6000. My sister then said it wasn't the time for that convo and he said fine and then said actually I won't be at the funeral as I don't appreciate the way you talk to my girlfriend (apparently his girlfriend said something to my sister when they arrived, asking where to put their coats and my sister said "sorry I don't speak Russian" she speaks perfectly clear English) and you are making this funeral all about the people who didn't care about my gran.

That is when my sister came over and told me.

My sister claims none of this happened and he is lying to make himself look better and has her children and my niece backing her up saying it never happened.

I cannot deal with this stress right now!

Now that makes sense. I kind of thought something like that had happened when I made my earlier post. I would 100% believe your DS and DD

It isn't too late though, for you to contact whoever is actually taking the service to tell them that your DS/DD also want to say something.

Tempers do get frayed at emotional times like this, especially if there is bad feeling between family members, and I think it is unfortunate that your DS lost it - but I understand why he did. It's also unfortunate that you didn't get involved earlier, instead of leaving it all to your sister, especially when you know how much she doesn't like your children. But what's done, is done.

Given the really bad feeling, it might be best for your children NOT to go. If feelings are that high, on both sides, it could turn into a shouting match at the funeral or the wake, which does happen occasionally, and would be just awful

MrsKeats · 01/02/2025 21:18

LounSue · 01/02/2025 12:50

See I don't really see an Issue with them not coming to the funeral, the only other funeral they have ever been to is their dads when they were teenagers and DS has been open about feeling like it didn't help him, he felt too much pressure to look sad and hated hearing people who hadn't spoke to his dad in years saying how much they would miss him etc.
I do wish they had handled it more tactfully though.

Stop making excuses for your children's awful behaviour.

steff13 · 01/02/2025 21:56

TimPat · 01/02/2025 16:47

I don't think we're going to agree on this at all.
Going to a funeral doesn't undo treating the person badly when they were alive, and not going doesn't undo the respect these grandchildren showed her in life.
It's just a ceremony, the living relationship is what really matters.

Edited

I agree with you 💯.

FallOfTheHouseOfUtterlyButterly · 01/02/2025 22:36

NotTerfNorCis · 01/02/2025 18:21

We go to funerals out of respect for the dead. Their behaviour is selfish and shocking. They should be more concerned about what their grandma would have wanted.

I doubt their DGM would have wanted them excluded from being part of it by their aunt...

FallOfTheHouseOfUtterlyButterly · 01/02/2025 22:37

MrsKeats · 01/02/2025 21:18

Stop making excuses for your children's awful behaviour.

Their behaviour is not "awful" unlike Dsis and her children

Potaytocrisps · 01/02/2025 22:50

I have dropped everything and booked flights for family funerals (we are all a bit spread out). Other cousins didn’t attend grandparents’ funerals. No one in the family had an issue with who attended and who didn’t, those who didn’t it was assumed they would remember the person in their own way and maybe visit the grave at a later date.

When I say no one had an issue, I guess they might have done but they didn’t voice it, and plenty spoke up in agreement.

@LounSue your children have lost their grandmother whom they loved very much.

If they have only attended one funeral that was their father’s then funerals in general might be a difficult concept for them and they were going to put that aside and attend but have decided not to. It does not diminish their love for the grandmother.

Did the eldest brother have anything to say about their speech not being needed?

Did you ask your sister if that bit was true?

Is the funeral being streamed and your DC could watch it?

Squiillionaire · 01/02/2025 23:23

It doesn't matter they don't go to the funeral. They are probably the same as me. Once you have gone you have gone. I attend funerals not out of respect for the person but to say a final goodbye. If you don't feel the need to do that so be it.

It doesn't mean they feel any less of their relative.

For some people a funeral is healing, for some traumatic.

Let them deal with it in the way they can.

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