Secondary school does not allow D.Martens

Just stop wasting the schools time and get some shoes that adhere to the uniform policy. How the hell can you have "a few" meetings over such a simple issue?! Crazy.

I had no idea. Used to wear dm as a teenager specifically because they made me feel safe. If I would have been attacked a kick in the groin would really hurt..

You've not had a boot put into you once you're on the floor, have you?

They're tough and heavy enough to break bones in a way a crappy pair of slip-ons from Shoezone aren't.

Enrol her for martial arts classes, good for girls anyway to learn how to defend themselves.

Wrt the DMs, it may depend on how rigorous they are with other infringements- if it’s the same across the board for other uniform rule breeches, then you will have to change them. If dd is being singled out and other people are flouting the rules, then not so much. They need to bring equal pressure to bear on all the kids who are not in correct uniform.

She can want whatever she wants, but it's against the uniform policy and I have absolutely no idea why this is the particular hill you're going to die on. She needs different shoes.

Kickers and DMs are totally different heights of boot.

It's a rule, she needs to abide by it. Pick the right hill to die on, this isn't it.

Parents like you are part of the problem, how IS the school supposed to improve if every parent thinks their child should be the exception?
Your DD saying she can ‘kick’ in her boots? Pandering to your worries to get away with wearing her cool boots, and what if she did start kicking other pupils? Thats okay is it?

Lots of posters seem to have missed the complete change in DM design and marketing. They are just shoes and boots on the whole now. Fashion rather than work type. No steel toe cap (they may still do some with them, but on the whole) and many are much thinner and softer leather than they used to be.
The boots are still boots though, so don’t fit a school shoes policy.

Never known a school accept dms as footwear. Her response was ridiculous. She could wear regular shoes and keep them for activities outside school, does she regularly kick others and flout rules?

Can she wear DM shoes instead? I have worn them for every semi smart job that also involved lots of movement and all through school. Both lace up and buckle are good.

I keep saying this. Schools don’t usually mind DM shoes, I’ve worked in a lot over 35 years…

The DMs are the least of your problems.

Suck it up, buy her some appropriate school shoes, then think about whether this is really the school for her or whether you should find one that better suits her and you.

Buy her some proper school shoes and stop being a pain.

Get her some shoes, but look to change schools ASAP

Uniform policies are a tool schools use to manage behaviour. Ever notice how the failing schools with tough new heads brought in to turn them around go completely anal on uniform policies and dress codes? Win the little battles and you address some of the issues that cause the bigger problems is the thinking. By causing such a drama over these boots (boots were banned as school uniform even back in the 90s) you are part of the problem you say you want to see fixed.

I don't see dm boots as school shoes sorry op

The school uniform doesn't allow boots. So get her some school shoes and tell her she has to wear them.

All the other stuff is just noise. She's not following the uniform rules

HT gave you all that information did she?

"Also the policy say shoes but a lot of the the student wear kickers boots, not shoes."

The actual Kickers boots, like the Kade or Kenzi boot? Not their Hi shoes?

If that's what you're talking about then you're totally right to complain that one brand of boot is allowed but another isn't.

Image of Kickers Kade boot below.

These entitled posts drive me up the wall.

OP, here it is spelled out:

You're responsible as a parent for ensuring your daughter is in receipt of a suitable full-time education.

To fulfil this responsibility, you've chosen to send her to a school.

The school has rules around behaviour and uniform. Very standard. In choosing to send her there, you have also by default chosen to accept these rules.

You must therefore ensure she is dressed in line with the uniform policy of the school or expect there to be sanctions.

Whether or not you feel the boots don't impact her learning is irrelevant. Whether or not your DD feels "safer" in them is irrelevant. Whether or not your DD loves her DM boots is irrelevant. Whether or not you think the rule is stupid is irrelevant. Whether or not every other student in the place is wearing what you think are non-policy shoes is irrelevant. Your concern is your DD.

Follow the rules of the school you chose until such time as you can choose a different option to fulfil your parental responsibility.

starting to think this is a wind up post

OP seems to be ignoring all reasonable responses

You can get DM school shoes. They don't have the yellow. But if their boots, like 8 holes plus, it's not uniform compliant. It needs to be a shoe.
Or if she likes kickers get her those. To me kickers have the same level of colour/embellishment as DMs? So just buy plain black DM shoes? But it's not my rules.
They're not complaining about the actual brand, more the colour/style surely?
It's not really the right school if you're not keen on that level of rules. I don't blame you, I wouldn't like it either. But it is what it is.