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MIL and her priorities!

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ChristOnABike87 · 03/09/2024 03:37

Gosh this is going to be hard to write and hard to keep brief!
DH is not speaking to MIL.
His Dad had dementia, it was rapid. After 18 months of him being home with MIL he was in a care home.
The following August we found out MIL was having an affair with a married man, the wife found texts. We pretty much all put it down to a mini breakdown and tried to move on with our lives, we had a baby girl the April before and MIL was in no way as involved as we thought she would be, made sense as she was preoccupied.
She is/was the best Nanny to her 2 older GKs that DH has from previous marriage.
All was ok as it could be, MIL making effort with youngest, for 6 weeks.
She then starts seeing someone else, DH hits the roof. MIL ‘puts family first’ and the relationship becomes a friendship, except of course it’s now a relationship behind closed doors.
FIL dies in March, MIL goes public with the relationship (she wasn’t having) in April. (By public I mean a handful of people know as DH isn’t telling anyone).
MIL cancels plans to spend time with DH and baby in May in favour of a weekend away with BF whilst I’m away and DH hasn’t spoken to her since.
She also hasn’t seen the baby despite me saying she should and her promising she’d make the effort. She also hasn’t tried to contact DH.
DH adored his mum, he’s so hurt and obviously still grieving FIL.

Looking for some advice really on how to navigate this sh’t storm we are in. Myself and everyone I know think/thought she was the most amazing, selfless woman, but her priorities are clearly the BF… who for further context is also married but his wife also has early onset dementia and is in a care home.

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MartinsSpareCalculator · 03/09/2024 03:50

Honestly, after living through the absolute hell that is dementia and caring for her husband I think she's earned the right to prioritise her own needs and wants for a bit.

The affair isn't ideal, but the situation isn't ideal.

andfinallyhereweare · 03/09/2024 03:53

I’m kinda on MILs side too here. Why should your child be her priority? Your child is your priority. Grandparents have their own lives. Grandparents should be the icing on the cake, not the whole cake.

Maybe if you accepted her choices then she’d be around more. She’s not abusive or dangerous she’s probably just grieving and not handling it very well. Maybe try and see her point in this.

Ponderingwindow · 03/09/2024 03:53

My mother died a horrible death from a prolonged illness and my father was dating within 6 weeks. He wanted to discuss the pros and cons of various women with me.

when I came to visit him a only a few weeks after her death, women were stopping him in the street to flirt with him in front of me. It was outrageous. It was a small town and he was a wealthy widower. He was a prize catch.

it is also textbook behavior. people who have been in very long marriages and are elderly tend to re-partner very, almost shockingly quickly.

Thankfully I did some reading up before my mother died so I was ready. My sibling and I even engaged in some dark humor and discussed the pros and cons of various types of relationships he might choose.

as angry and hurtful as the behavior feels to us, we have to step back and let them live their life . Imagine losing your spouse. Imagine being alone at a stage in life when you already feel
vulnerable .

im not suggesting you welcome
the new boyfriend into your home as grandpa. Even if a boyfriend becomes a partner, you don’t have to have anything more than a cursory relationship.

what you can do is let go of your anger. You can accept that she is a human being who was lonely and scared. You can accept that she lost her husband long before he actually died. She is still grieving his loss, but she has felt it more keenly than you have for much longer than you have.

MermaidMummy06 · 03/09/2024 03:58

My mid-70's FIL has done something similar. Many years of caring for MIL, needed full time care for about 10 years.

As soon as she passed, FIL was on with her BF (& quickly married) & apart from calling DH to do all his life admin, we never hear from him. DH has to chase him & he shows zero interest in our DC.

I suppose he's trying to live life while he can, put himself first after being selfless for years & have some companionship.

It peeves me he ignores the DC, but he pays the price as DC can't be bothered with him much. But we can't force him, so just give as much as we get.

Guavafish1 · 03/09/2024 03:59

I think your DH needs to realise his mother has a life!

Dementia is difficult to nurse through and although the affair is not ideal it’s time to put the pass behind.

She seems like she won’t be reliable child care and that she be out enjoying her life.

What does he want to achieve by not talking to his mother?

ChristOnABike87 · 03/09/2024 04:04

I don't for a second think that my child should be her priority, just that perhaps she might make the effort to see her and spend time with her that’s all 😂
Ive also never mentioned using her for childcare these are assumptions.
Maybe more time needs to pass as its doesn’t feel like the past, but very much the present.

She has cut him out as much as he has, maybe I should rephrase to ‘they haven’t spoken’
But thanks for the responses. Good to have others perspectives.

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pasturesgreen · 03/09/2024 04:09

Not what you were to hoping to hear but I'm another one thinking your MIL has more than earned the right to put herself first and enjoy her life after being this 'amazing, selfless woman' for what sounds like a long time.

And sorry, but your DH had absolutely no business 'hitting the roof' when his mum started seeing someone. You sound miffed you're missing out on free childcare, actually.

DoreenonTill8 · 03/09/2024 04:12

After 18 months of him being home with MIL he was in a care home.
So 18 months of intense dementia care at home for her looking after him?
How much support did you and DH give them?
What level of capability/cognition do/did FIL or the other man's wife have?
It's awful and it's horrific, but the person they married has changed so much with this disease. Did he recognise her as his wife?

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ChristOnABike87 · 03/09/2024 04:25

I wasn’t hoping to hear anything, I just wanted outside perspective 🙂
She is only 60, so presumed she would have a partner eventually as still young.
Again childcare not the issue at all.
We obviously helped and visited FIL regularly both at home and in care. MIL worked throughout and had carers in daily but was still a struggle, of course it was. He recognised all of us up until the last 6 months of his life, dementia is heartbreaking and I do wonder if DH has struggled to come to terms with both the dementia and FILs death and so isn’t handling in the best way.
I am always trying to have conversations with DH to reach out to MIL so I’m not sure smug or small minded really applies.

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DoreenonTill8 · 03/09/2024 04:35

How old was fil? Early onset dementia which this sounds like is awful, if he was under 60, Early 60s, to have the level of need for 24hr care, and pass away, it must have been high needs and pretty intense.

ChristOnABike87 · 03/09/2024 04:39

DoreenonTill8 · 03/09/2024 04:35

How old was fil? Early onset dementia which this sounds like is awful, if he was under 60, Early 60s, to have the level of need for 24hr care, and pass away, it must have been high needs and pretty intense.

Sorry he didn’t have early onset, the wife of BF does.
FIL much older than MIL, he had mixed dementia.

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pikkumyy77 · 03/09/2024 04:43

Im 64 and in a great marriage. If my dh gets dementia, or I do, we have the example of my parents and his parents to guide us. I hope we would both do everything for the other. But if my dh was caring for me loyally and also found some comfort I would not begrudge him. And I hope he would feel the same. Your dh is grieving in a childish way. Wanting all the toys to stay just as they were. His mother’s grief is different—it is prolonged, complex, and realistic. She can grasp that one life has ended and a new one must begin.

Dreameeeerrr · 03/09/2024 04:44

I think you need to keep out of it. Your DH can make his choice, and so can MIL. I dont think this is your argument. I happen to think its appalling she's had affairs, whether your DH chooses to forgive that is up to him. Sounds like they've both been through hell.

Immemorialelms · 03/09/2024 04:45

Not up to her son to "forgive" anything!!

ChristOnABike87 · 03/09/2024 04:46

Dreameeeerrr · 03/09/2024 04:44

I think you need to keep out of it. Your DH can make his choice, and so can MIL. I dont think this is your argument. I happen to think its appalling she's had affairs, whether your DH chooses to forgive that is up to him. Sounds like they've both been through hell.

Thanks I’m beginning to think you’re right and I can’t fix things for them, which is what I am trying to do despite what my rushed and tired initial post may sound like 😂

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RawBloomers · 03/09/2024 04:47

Sounds like your MiL has been doing a lot of looking after everyone else - bringing up kids, then being an involved grandparent, then caring for a husband with dementia.

Then she found someone who paid attention to her and maybe put her first instead of asking her to put others first all the time - and she liked it.

And it’s probably about time she had a bit of that.

Instead of asking her to come visit her grandchild, have you thought of inviting her and her partner over for dinner? Treat and prioritise her for a change instead of expecting her to prioritise you? It really ought to be your DH who matures a bit and starts to wonder what his mother wants out of life instead of just wondering what she can give. I understand he’s probably grieving his father but it sounds like he hasn’t really been thinking about her and her needs for a the last few years and it’s about time he did.

blahblahblah24 · 03/09/2024 04:48

I'm not surprised mil is avoiding dh he's acting like a self centred child. She's been through hell and isn't there to serve the rest of you

Dreameeeerrr · 03/09/2024 04:50

I do think you're getting the usual MN double standard answers on here. Normally people kick off about affairs, but here they are all normalising it. Not sure how happy most of the posters would be if their Mum was having an affair but 🤷

Rosscameasdoody · 03/09/2024 04:52

I’m on MiL’s side too. I’m currently nursing my elderly mum at home in the last stages of dementia and it’s given me a whole new outlook on life. Bad enough watching a parent deteriorate right in front of you, but I can’t imagine watching a life partner go through the same thing.

Having had experience of the onset of dementia I doubt it was as rapid as you think - MiL would have been living with DH’s personality and other significant behavioural changes well before diagnosis. An affair probably wasn’t the wisest path but not surprising in the circumstances - she needed an outlet.

I think you need to recognise what your MiL has been through and that she’s still fairly young. I was widowed at 58 and l can tell you it’s horrendously lonely. She has needs and her own life to live, and she’s still trying to find her way. If you and DH can’t be supportive of her choices in what, for her, will be a difficult transition period, then you need to step back and let her put herself first for a while in whatever way she needs.

Rosscameasdoody · 03/09/2024 05:02

Dreameeeerrr · 03/09/2024 04:50

I do think you're getting the usual MN double standard answers on here. Normally people kick off about affairs, but here they are all normalising it. Not sure how happy most of the posters would be if their Mum was having an affair but 🤷

I don’t think this is a double standard at all. The circumstances are totally different. MIL’s life will have been very difficult long before her DH had a formal diagnosis. OP is kidding herself if she thinks the onset of dementia was so rapid - that suggests they were minimally involved because they were too busy with their own lives, or in denial about what was happening. An affair isn’t ideal obviously, but dealing with dementia is isolating and MiL clearly found solace and support with someone who has similar experience. It’s a bit rich to have left MiL to get on with things by herself and then complain when she finds other interests and isn’t as involved with her family as her DS would like.

YellowAsteroid · 03/09/2024 05:05

I'm in sympathy with your MiL. Dementia is like a death - it takes away the person you knew. They are way from themselves. It's really tough caring for someone who's like a child cognitively, but a fully grown adult.

Your DH has no right really to police his mother's emotional or romantic life.

ChristOnABike87 · 03/09/2024 05:05

I think he’s a little old fashioned ‘in sickness and in health’ kind of way
He’s also pretty much an only child (much older half siblings) it would help if he had siblings to talk to about it.
I must not have shed him in a good light because some of your responses are really mean, and he’s actually a wonderful person 😂
She always maintained that FIL was the love of her life and she would never want to have another man/partner and I guess DH was naive enough to think it would stay that way

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Dreameeeerrr · 03/09/2024 05:05

Rosscameasdoody · 03/09/2024 05:02

I don’t think this is a double standard at all. The circumstances are totally different. MIL’s life will have been very difficult long before her DH had a formal diagnosis. OP is kidding herself if she thinks the onset of dementia was so rapid - that suggests they were minimally involved because they were too busy with their own lives, or in denial about what was happening. An affair isn’t ideal obviously, but dealing with dementia is isolating and MiL clearly found solace and support with someone who has similar experience. It’s a bit rich to have left MiL to get on with things by herself and then complain when she finds other interests and isn’t as involved with her family as her DS would like.

An affair is never the right answer.

ChristOnABike87 · 03/09/2024 05:09

Rosscameasdoody · 03/09/2024 05:02

I don’t think this is a double standard at all. The circumstances are totally different. MIL’s life will have been very difficult long before her DH had a formal diagnosis. OP is kidding herself if she thinks the onset of dementia was so rapid - that suggests they were minimally involved because they were too busy with their own lives, or in denial about what was happening. An affair isn’t ideal obviously, but dealing with dementia is isolating and MiL clearly found solace and support with someone who has similar experience. It’s a bit rich to have left MiL to get on with things by herself and then complain when she finds other interests and isn’t as involved with her family as her DS would like.

Not the onset, the decline. My fault.
DH attended all medical appts with MIL and like I’ve previously said we helped regularly, i.e 3x a week, DH is self employed which helped

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