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MIL and her priorities!

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ChristOnABike87 · 03/09/2024 03:37

Gosh this is going to be hard to write and hard to keep brief!
DH is not speaking to MIL.
His Dad had dementia, it was rapid. After 18 months of him being home with MIL he was in a care home.
The following August we found out MIL was having an affair with a married man, the wife found texts. We pretty much all put it down to a mini breakdown and tried to move on with our lives, we had a baby girl the April before and MIL was in no way as involved as we thought she would be, made sense as she was preoccupied.
She is/was the best Nanny to her 2 older GKs that DH has from previous marriage.
All was ok as it could be, MIL making effort with youngest, for 6 weeks.
She then starts seeing someone else, DH hits the roof. MIL ‘puts family first’ and the relationship becomes a friendship, except of course it’s now a relationship behind closed doors.
FIL dies in March, MIL goes public with the relationship (she wasn’t having) in April. (By public I mean a handful of people know as DH isn’t telling anyone).
MIL cancels plans to spend time with DH and baby in May in favour of a weekend away with BF whilst I’m away and DH hasn’t spoken to her since.
She also hasn’t seen the baby despite me saying she should and her promising she’d make the effort. She also hasn’t tried to contact DH.
DH adored his mum, he’s so hurt and obviously still grieving FIL.

Looking for some advice really on how to navigate this sh’t storm we are in. Myself and everyone I know think/thought she was the most amazing, selfless woman, but her priorities are clearly the BF… who for further context is also married but his wife also has early onset dementia and is in a care home.

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ThePrologue · 03/09/2024 06:53

Poppins21 · 03/09/2024 06:31

Yes the attitude of OP DH is shocking. The MIL is a person in her own right and can make her own choices.

But let's not forget he is grieving too.
If you are happy for the MIL to behave in the way she is, then the OPs DH is entitled to grief behaviour.
Yes, it sounds as if he is being petty, but he is grieving. He's also watched a parent, his dad, decline cognitively.
Some very intolerant and misinformed here today

ChristOnABike87 · 03/09/2024 06:55

curious79 · 03/09/2024 06:47

Personally, I do feel sympathy for your DH. It’s like a second form of bereavement to lose his father only to in some way to lose his DM too.

From what I’ve read you’re saying the issue is less about her having new relationships but more about having new relationships at the complete expense and total lack of interest in her existing family. Maybe that will change? I would be hurt if my remaining parent felt that having new relationships needed to be at the total expense of existing family. My elderly parent does have a relationship, and has had three since my other parent died, but at no point did they ever stop seeing family.

And I mean seeing. They were never a babysitter or anything like that.

IMO with your MIL while I applaud her letting her hair down It’s a bit odd to suddenly cut off those other relationships. Was your FIL controlling and dominant? the type of behaviour you’re seeing could be a reaction and a lot of relief to finally getting rid of him.

A friend’s elderly mother has jumped into a new relationship with a man and married the guy after four weeks, without telling anyone she was going to do that or asking anyone to attend the wedding. She has gone from seeing her family and grandchildren all the time to barely seeing them. This woman is almost certainly in a new very controlling relationship, but equally the relationship with the father who died was clearly one where she felt coerced and abused.

You’ve hit the nail on the head and worded it much better than I have. The main issue is exactly that, the relationship appears more important to her because she has stopped bothering with us all.
I have also been told from a neighbour that this man is an aggressive misogynistic pig from her personal experience. So I worry about that too!
All of the ‘judgy’ opinions OH has expressed have been to me not MIL but again I guess I wasn’t clear on this 😬

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Poppins21 · 03/09/2024 07:00

ThePrologue · 03/09/2024 06:53

But let's not forget he is grieving too.
If you are happy for the MIL to behave in the way she is, then the OPs DH is entitled to grief behaviour.
Yes, it sounds as if he is being petty, but he is grieving. He's also watched a parent, his dad, decline cognitively.
Some very intolerant and misinformed here today

Get your point and I recently lost my Mum so I do get it.

But the way the OP has written it her DH sounds very judgemental to me and thinks his Mum as just his Mum not a person in her own right- which is odd for a grown man.

notzen · 03/09/2024 07:02

Can’t you take your baby to visit her? Keep your connection going?

ChristOnABike87 · 03/09/2024 07:03

notzen · 03/09/2024 07:02

Can’t you take your baby to visit her? Keep your connection going?

Of course, I’ve always offered. To meet for lunch, go for a walk with/without little one if she needs adult company but she hasn’t taken me up on the offer.

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theworldsmad · 03/09/2024 07:03

pasturesgreen · 03/09/2024 04:09

Not what you were to hoping to hear but I'm another one thinking your MIL has more than earned the right to put herself first and enjoy her life after being this 'amazing, selfless woman' for what sounds like a long time.

And sorry, but your DH had absolutely no business 'hitting the roof' when his mum started seeing someone. You sound miffed you're missing out on free childcare, actually.

Whilst I agree that mil has a right to this, I wouldn't blame her dh for his response.
Just as his mum has lost her husband and is doing slightly irrational things, he has lost his father, and to some extent the mother he has always known. He is also allowed to overreact a little bit. It's never nice to see your father replaced so easily so to say. He can also grieve the family dynamic that he knew. If he needs six months to come to terms with his mum's new found vibrance in life, that's also fair.
(Sorry not picking on you, just replied to your post, many was saying similar to you)

Sinisterdexter · 03/09/2024 07:04

I think the ‘hasn’t bothered to pick up the ashes.’ comment is very hurtful, I sobbed just picking up my dogs ashes!
My mil had dementia and dh always said he lost his mum long before she died. Your mil lost her dh long before his death.
Personally I think there’s a chance your mil is going through a sort of hay day period and it may not last.
When my df left my dm she went ‘off the rails’ for about 2 years before remembering she had a family who wanted to see her.
Try and be neutral about your mil as if she wants to come back to being a doting gm again you will need to help facilitate this.

AuntieJoyce · 03/09/2024 07:04

ChristOnABike87 · 03/09/2024 06:20

I agree, I feel very sad and so does he.

I think it’s unrealistic of you to expect her to be coming over whilst you’re DH is barely speaking to her. She would feel pretty awkward about it

Sorenlorrenson · 03/09/2024 07:06

Let her live her life ffs.

ChristOnABike87 · 03/09/2024 07:07

theworldsmad · 03/09/2024 07:03

Whilst I agree that mil has a right to this, I wouldn't blame her dh for his response.
Just as his mum has lost her husband and is doing slightly irrational things, he has lost his father, and to some extent the mother he has always known. He is also allowed to overreact a little bit. It's never nice to see your father replaced so easily so to say. He can also grieve the family dynamic that he knew. If he needs six months to come to terms with his mum's new found vibrance in life, that's also fair.
(Sorry not picking on you, just replied to your post, many was saying similar to you)

Some of you are really starting to understand my post now 🙏🏻 thank you.
I am never posting on here again 😂

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ChristOnABike87 · 03/09/2024 07:08

AuntieJoyce · 03/09/2024 07:04

I think it’s unrealistic of you to expect her to be coming over whilst you’re DH is barely speaking to her. She would feel pretty awkward about it

He works… I am not. She could still have a relationship with me and see LO if she wanted to

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InWalksBarberalla · 03/09/2024 07:08

ChristOnABike87 · 03/09/2024 06:32

Oh 100% he assumed she’d be she same GP to LO as she has to the others… but why wouldn’t he?
That the final nail… because if you notice she announced the relationship in April but we still had contact until middle of May. I can’t write every hurtful thing that’s happened, like the fact she still ‘hasn’t bothered to pick up the ashes’ her words not mine.

Because she has been through a major life change?

AnonyLonnymouse · 03/09/2024 07:10

The sad fact of the matter is that people can find a new spouse or partner after their first has died, as your MIL is now rapidly showing you, but no one can find a new parent. MIL is not the only person grieving here. Your DH’s world has been rocked on its axis and won’t ever be the same again. He has my sympathies. 💐

ChristOnABike87 · 03/09/2024 07:10

InWalksBarberalla · 03/09/2024 07:08

Because she has been through a major life change?

And when you go through a major life change you don’t want those around who love you most?
Maybe we are different people and that’s ok!

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theworldsmad · 03/09/2024 07:11

Poppins21 · 03/09/2024 06:31

Yes the attitude of OP DH is shocking. The MIL is a person in her own right and can make her own choices.

This is a very uninformed', one sided response.
If you can see mil side, you should be able to see dh's too as they're both grieving.
Mil is doing the classic let your hair down thing, which, unlike you think isn't her just living her life and making choices. It's a textbook, ' I feel lost, I've lost my lifelong companion and I don't know what to do. I'm hoping someone new might fill that void'. It really is almost a cry for help. Like a teenager behaving poorly because they're so insecure and don't know what to do.
For example in a clear moment if you were to ask mil whether she wanted a relationship with her grandchildren for years to come she'd almost certainly say yes. Similarly she probably doesn't want to hurt her own children. Yet, she's unable to reconcile the two things at the moment.
DH is grieving a father and the mother he knew. It is hard watching your parent go through the classic post spouse's death script.
Cut him as much slack as you're doing the mil.

carrotcard · 03/09/2024 07:11

It's messy and your DH is hurting right now. That's ok. But it's not acceptable for him to "hit the roof" with his mum who has had to see her husband fade away.

If your DH wanted her to feel welcome and involved in your family he should have tried to see it from her side.

carrotcard · 03/09/2024 07:13

ChristOnABike87 · 03/09/2024 07:10

And when you go through a major life change you don’t want those around who love you most?
Maybe we are different people and that’s ok!

Maybe she did but he's pushed her away by making clear he disagrees with her choices.

Absolutely fine. He's hurting. She's hurting. Hopefully with time it will heal. Right now your child isn't the centre of her life and that's fine.

AuntieJoyce · 03/09/2024 07:13

ChristOnABike87 · 03/09/2024 07:08

He works… I am not. She could still have a relationship with me and see LO if she wanted to

Under his disapproval. And your disapproval as well otherwise why are you on here? Who needs that shit

Personally I’d give it a rest, let her get on with things and keep the door open.

ChristOnABike87 · 03/09/2024 07:14

Thank you, I have said in a previous post that hit the roof is probably the wrong terminology. He has expressed those ‘judgy’ opinions to me but not her. I have been the one to have conversations with her. Relative silence both of their ends

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StTola · 03/09/2024 07:16

ChristOnABike87 · 03/09/2024 07:08

He works… I am not. She could still have a relationship with me and see LO if she wanted to

That’s ridiculous, OP. Why would she assume her DS’s wife wanted to see her if her own son won’t speak to her? Or think sneaking into the house while he’s at work is ok?

And people do all kinds of things about ashes and graves. My mother was horrified that it took her friend’s DH so long to put a headstone on his wife’s grave, but he just couldn’t bear thinking about it.

WestCorkGal · 03/09/2024 07:17

Your MIL has retreated into a bubble a fantasy to give her poor damaged heart and psyche respite from the hell of the last few years. On some level her lover is making her feel literally care free and she can't think of anything or anyone else just now
It seems hard that this selfless womans current behaviour is negating all the good that came before. Bereavement is a bomb in a family tho. Certainly in our family when our mother was widowed she behaved awfully to us her children. She only saw the loss of our dad as hers alone. She was nasty and dismissive and angry. It took years for everything to right itself and for the family pieces to reassemble into something different with dad no longer there. Some of my siblings never forgave her and are now estranged. For those of us that battled through we have a new relationship with her and are damn glad we hung on now. The thought of her dying and not being friends with her would devastate me. Grief is hard enough without those complexities.
It's likely your MIL will emerge from this fantasy and the real hard work of grief will kick in. She has lost her person and can't outrun the grief forever
Your DH has lost his dad and his mum is currently unreachable. How very sad and distressing for him.
I would be encouraging him to have some support through this. Therapy helped me to manage my own feelings during these years. It helped me to acknowledge my own loss and find ways to connect with my mother when her grief made it so difficult
As for yourself. Try to put your wishes for the grandparenting you want for your child to one side for now. There's time to fix that later. I would be encouraging my husband to see his mums current behaviour as a distressed woman in crisis who needs compassion. I would be reaching out with gentle kind texts to her. Suggesting meet ups that don't make her feel like anyone is looking for more care for her to give.
Good luck. This is hard.

carrotcard · 03/09/2024 07:18

ChristOnABike87 · 03/09/2024 07:14

Thank you, I have said in a previous post that hit the roof is probably the wrong terminology. He has expressed those ‘judgy’ opinions to me but not her. I have been the one to have conversations with her. Relative silence both of their ends

Ah ok I see.

Has he spoken to her much since the new partners? Are you relaying his feelings to her?

Could you try just inviting her round for dinner?

ChristOnABike87 · 03/09/2024 07:20

AuntieJoyce · 03/09/2024 07:13

Under his disapproval. And your disapproval as well otherwise why are you on here? Who needs that shit

Personally I’d give it a rest, let her get on with things and keep the door open.

He’s made it clear to MIL he still would like her to spend time when LO whilst they’re both grieving in very different ways 🙂
I came here for advice on how to help resolve the situation

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sunsetsandboardwalks · 03/09/2024 07:21

I think you and DH need to massively dial back your judgements and expectations.

Caring for someone with dementia is one of the hardest things you can do - and if MIL took solace in the arms of another man to make it that tiny bit more bearable then, well, good for her.

Neither of you seem to understand that your MIL has been grieving her husband for probably years before his death - she lost the man she was married to a long, long time ago and had to come to terms with the fact that he was "gone" long before he actually went.

Meditationgame · 03/09/2024 07:24

Good for her I say!

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