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DonnySue · 21/07/2024 20:41

Was at my grandmas earlier with DD (9). My sister, her husband and their kids were there too. We were talking about history and I was absolutely fascinated by it (I love history, especially British history) and at one point I took myself outside into the garden to have a few minutes of thinking and reflection on what we’d been talking about.
DD came out to ask what I was doing and I said “just having a few minutes to reflect on what we’ve been chatting about”.

She went back inside and then I heard howls of laughter coming from the living room. DD had told them what I’d said and they were all in stitches over it. It really ruined my thoughts and I tried to get the topic back up and running but sister kept saying everyone was still reflecting - cue more hilarity.

was what I said really that bloody funny?? Pissed off but also a bit embarrassed 😞

OP posts:
SherbetSweeties · 22/07/2024 07:23

They were a little unkind but that is pretty funny. Sorry eek

PuddlesPityParty · 22/07/2024 07:23

XChrome · 22/07/2024 06:18

Riiiight. Because etiquette dictates that she was obligated to stay and talk about a depressing subject like Trump instead of excusing herself to take a break. Such nonsense.

Well no - it’s rude to just get up mid conversation because it’s moved on from the topic you like. They all sat there listening to OP twaddle on AND she tried to bring the conversation back to what she wanted even though it had clearly moved on. Rude, ignorant and boring.

paradisecircus · 22/07/2024 07:23

I don't think you did anything weird or wrong - I quite like the idea of going off to quietly reflect on a conversation or topic of interest. I guess the way you put it might have sounded a bit odd to your 9 year old, and perhaps she relayed it to the others in an amusing way. Maybe she'll learn something from this, even if it's not immediately obvious. Hope you can move on and rise above it.

mirax · 22/07/2024 07:29

MrHarleyQuin · 22/07/2024 07:11

There is, I agree. But liking more intellectual pursuits and enjoying intelligent discussion doesn't mean you can't also like popular things like football. Or that you are automatically an intellectual if you don't like popular stuff.

Of course not. I have had the most insightful and thoughful conversations with very ordinary people with no pretentions to being intellectuals at all. We all love football/cricket, Tv shows and pop music too. But dont you think it is odd that so many posters take umbrage at the word "reflect" and seem to have ringfenced it as an activity for the autistic or the philosopher? Does that not itself reveal a rather middle aged serf mentality? To bring the topic back to OP's interest. 😛

smallmountainbear · 22/07/2024 07:29

DonnySue · 21/07/2024 21:27

No I ignored them and tried to return to the topic but it was impossible with sister carrying on the way she was.

just to add DD wasn’t laughing so she didn’t do it on purpose. I don’t think she got the joke either as we often reflect on things we see or talk about. Example York dungeons. After the tour we sat in the park for a bit to reflect on it. I really can’t understand what is so odd about it, I think it’s weirder to leave somewhere like that and completely forget about what you’ve just seen

I LOVE this OP!

You have actually inspired me to make the time to do this.

Bubblybits · 22/07/2024 07:30

So am I getting this right - you were talking about history, then the conversation naturally drifted into American politics, you didn't want to talk about that so removed yourself to reflect on the previous conversation. However politely you feel you did this, it would be somewhere between weird and rude to me. Then you came back and tried to keep steering the conversation back to history, even though it had already moved on - AND you had literally taken yourself off outside for a period - and even though you know your sister isn’t massively into history? No wonder she was ribbing you - your behaviour was really odd and her making fun was probably a way of ensuring the conversation wasn’t dominated by a topic that had already been discussed and was only of interest to one of you Confused

The polite thing to do would have been to reflect on your thoughts at a natural break in the conversation, rather than making one yourself and leaving everyone wondering WTF you were “just popping out” for. Surely you could have discussed it with your Grandma again at a later point, rather than trying to drag the conversation back at that moment? Perhaps when your sister wasn’t around, given her lack of interest in the topic?

NotTerfNorCis · 22/07/2024 07:30

There was nothing wrong with what you did at all. You're a thinker. Your sister clearly isn't, and is perhaps a bit of a bully too.

LiarLiarKnickersAblaze · 22/07/2024 07:31

DonnySue · 21/07/2024 22:57

People who think I’m weird …. Do you not find it fascinating that all those years ago your relatives … your actual blood relatives were going about their lives in medieval Britain? Do you not wonder what they did for a living? What they looked like? Where they lived?

@DonnySue carry on being you. I’m a bit of a reflector and value taking time to do so. Unfortunately as a lot of responses show on this thread there is low/poor tolerance of it or of difference. I regularly need breaks in social situations. My family would never take the mick out of me for having an interest. Unfortunately you’ve just got lots of people on this thread who don’t understand having an interest and can’t stretch their brains far enough to understand it because they are too restricted by societal norms eg groups should stay together not one leave for a while and come back, or laugh at the weirdo. People who lack confidence can’t cope with an independent thinker. Boring pack behaviour and sounds like your sister, like many posters on this thread, are comfortable with a bit of low key bullying to have a laugh.

Carry on doing you and the next time they laugh at you like that just leave. Set the boundary for yourself and others that you won’t be treated like that. They’ll call you weird and tell you you’re overreacting but you won’t be in the same room as them so win win.

CelesteCunningham · 22/07/2024 07:31

XChrome · 22/07/2024 02:54

OP, notice that the people who say it's weird and laughable are unable to rationally explain why. The best they can come up with is; "I wouldn't do that, therefore it's weird."
That's because, unlike you, they aren't thinkers by nature. They're reactors. They just have a knee jerk emotional response to anyone who isn't as shallow as them. They don't think it through. You like to think things through in order to form an opinion. That's to be commended. Ignore these superficial, reactive people.

Edited

It's been explained multiple times by multiple posters why it's not the done thing to just leave the room if you don't like the topic of conversation. At least say you needed some fresh air or something, but ideally don't do it.

I completely relate to the wish to carry on and further explore a topic of conversation in my head - I'd forgotten until this thread that my lovely dad described me as a deep thinker in his speech at my wedding, he was the same.

The point is that it's not polite to do that in company. This isn't a point of intellect, it's a point of social skills.

The most interesting, intelligent people I've known can converse in an appropriate way about just about anything, high brow or low. They don't leave the room because the conversation has turned to someone else's interests.

LiarLiarKnickersAblaze · 22/07/2024 07:33

Bubblybits · 22/07/2024 07:30

So am I getting this right - you were talking about history, then the conversation naturally drifted into American politics, you didn't want to talk about that so removed yourself to reflect on the previous conversation. However politely you feel you did this, it would be somewhere between weird and rude to me. Then you came back and tried to keep steering the conversation back to history, even though it had already moved on - AND you had literally taken yourself off outside for a period - and even though you know your sister isn’t massively into history? No wonder she was ribbing you - your behaviour was really odd and her making fun was probably a way of ensuring the conversation wasn’t dominated by a topic that had already been discussed and was only of interest to one of you Confused

The polite thing to do would have been to reflect on your thoughts at a natural break in the conversation, rather than making one yourself and leaving everyone wondering WTF you were “just popping out” for. Surely you could have discussed it with your Grandma again at a later point, rather than trying to drag the conversation back at that moment? Perhaps when your sister wasn’t around, given her lack of interest in the topic?

Edited

I imagined it as OP trying to demonstrate why it was worth reflecting about rather than coming back and dominating the conversation.

Ridiculing her in front of everyone wasn’t OK. She could have a quiet word with her.

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 22/07/2024 07:36

Tumblingjungleofchaos · 21/07/2024 23:01

Can't you read? Confused

OP didn't say it to her family. She said to her own DD outside, then the DD related it to the family inside who then took the piss.

It's really not that hard to take 2 minutes to comprehend a few sentences.

I did understand it, I'm not an idiot. I think it's a pretentious thing to say to anyone!

Chusername · 22/07/2024 07:38

It is funny. Embrace it…

There’s nothing wrong with having your own quirks but it’s unreasonable to expect other (presumably NT folk) to get it. I think it’s endearing and it really wouldn’t bother me if people found it amusing.

I'm autistic and spend a lot of time in my own head reflecting on things. I don’t think I’d leave the room, I need breaks from conversation sometimes but I might just nip to the loo or something! (People often laugh at me for other reasons though. I don’t care, I know they love me)

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 22/07/2024 07:39

DancingNotDrowning · 22/07/2024 07:14

Fascinated by the people claiming you can’t think and reflect in a busy room and suggesting that not wanting to repeatedly return to a conversation no one else was interested in makes you a pitiful character whose interest start and stop with soaps and socials.

I’m not an academic so not at the forefront of intelligent and original thinking but I’ve got a masters and I’m a qualified lawyer, I think on my feet, in crowded court rooms and I’ve written a couple of books and contributed to several more. I would have roared with laughter if my brothers or sisters had done this.

but is suspect the difference is I like them, they like me, none of us have a superiority complex and we all recognise that it’s not appropriate to hog a conversation.

Absolutely this. Most people think while they participate in a conversation.

Bubblybits · 22/07/2024 07:39

LiarLiarKnickersAblaze · 22/07/2024 07:33

I imagined it as OP trying to demonstrate why it was worth reflecting about rather than coming back and dominating the conversation.

Ridiculing her in front of everyone wasn’t OK. She could have a quiet word with her.

OP says:

No I ignored them and tried to return to the topic but it was impossible with sister carrying on the way she was.
I wasn’t the one with all the facts, my grandma was. That’s why I wanted it to carry on as I was learning things I didn’t already know.

That doesn’t sound like someone trying to just explain why they wanted to reflect. It sounds like someone who wanted the previous conversation to carry on, regardless of how other people in the room felt.

BigDahliaFan · 22/07/2024 07:52

That would absolutely have gone done in our family hist And resurrected every Christmas along with all the other things we take the piss out of each other about.

but seriously I think you should crowdfund an OU degree, you’d love it. If you possibly can go do a degree.

Jifmicroliquid · 22/07/2024 07:54

DonnySue · 21/07/2024 22:57

People who think I’m weird …. Do you not find it fascinating that all those years ago your relatives … your actual blood relatives were going about their lives in medieval Britain? Do you not wonder what they did for a living? What they looked like? Where they lived?

Honestly, no.

But then I don’t get the fascination with family trees and ancestry type things. What Great Aunt Mildred did 300 years ago has got no impact on me.

I do recognise that a lot of people like this sort of stuff though.

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 22/07/2024 08:03

I understand where you are coming from OP, but there’s a balance. You can’t control the conversation in a group- it’s impolite to talk for any length of time about something that doesn’t interest everyone. If you want an extensive chat about history, go especially for that when your sister isn’t there.

And when you need time out for reflection, it’s time to go home, or reflect while making a cuppa!

You may get a better reception if you call it ‘processing’ rather than reflecting. I think people understand the need to process information better.

Most people process unconsciously though, while making a cuppa or going for a walk, in the background of doing lighter things.

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 22/07/2024 08:05

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 22/07/2024 08:03

I understand where you are coming from OP, but there’s a balance. You can’t control the conversation in a group- it’s impolite to talk for any length of time about something that doesn’t interest everyone. If you want an extensive chat about history, go especially for that when your sister isn’t there.

And when you need time out for reflection, it’s time to go home, or reflect while making a cuppa!

You may get a better reception if you call it ‘processing’ rather than reflecting. I think people understand the need to process information better.

Most people process unconsciously though, while making a cuppa or going for a walk, in the background of doing lighter things.

And that may have been why your sister was trying to change the subject- to subconsciously process the meat of the previous conversation.

Neither of you were wrong, but you clearly don’t understand each other’s learning style. Maybe work on the relationship so the misunderstandings aren’t so hurtful.

Mongrelsrbeautiful · 22/07/2024 08:08

My family would do similar, but we'd all take it on the chin. We all have our eccentricities. If you laugh along in these situations they stop sooner.

HeadNorth · 22/07/2024 08:08

betterangels · 21/07/2024 21:28

Agree. Couldn't you just have said you needed some air? It's all a little earnest.

That is exactly what the OP said - can no one read posts anymore?

A lot of posters seems just like the OP's family - so keen to gang up on her for being what they perceive as 'wierd'. It is not a crime to not be like everyone else and it shouldn't be mocked and laughed at.

OP - you continue to march to the beat of your own drum, your family sound unpleasant and resentful of anyone who dares to be a bit different (like many posters) so uses mocking to shame you back into line. Vive la difference, I say.

FunIsland · 22/07/2024 08:11

DonnySue · 21/07/2024 22:57

People who think I’m weird …. Do you not find it fascinating that all those years ago your relatives … your actual blood relatives were going about their lives in medieval Britain? Do you not wonder what they did for a living? What they looked like? Where they lived?

Not so much the relatives but I do find it interesting. I wouldn’t go outside to reflect on it though and would fully find it weird if someone else did.

Depending on the personality of the individual I’d either laugh or presume they were a bit up their own arse to be honest.

EmberAsh · 22/07/2024 08:11

I would find a natural lull in the day where I could then think back about something I was interested in. No hobbies or passions as such but if a conversation had interested me, it might come back to the forethought of my brain. Perhaps when brushing my teeth or loading the dishwasher.
I would certainly think it unusual for someone to wander off alone, when with company to reflect immediately on a conversation topic.

PeriIsKickingMyButt · 22/07/2024 08:12

I'm sorry to do the typical mumsnet thing of diagnosing neurodivergence but honestly your behaviour is unusual and doesn't fit with social norms and did very much sound like something a ND person would do and then not see why people were laughing. They shouldn't have taken the piss once it was clear you didn't find it funny.

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 22/07/2024 08:13

This sounds like something I would have said when I was younger and I would have gotten the same reaction as your family. All it does is make me clam up and shy around people at big events now. And they all wonder why I’ve gone shy and don’t engage in conversations. I’ve just embraced my weirdness internally and stay quiet in public so I’m not the butt of their jokes any more.

FunIsland · 22/07/2024 08:16

Jifmicroliquid · 22/07/2024 07:54

Honestly, no.

But then I don’t get the fascination with family trees and ancestry type things. What Great Aunt Mildred did 300 years ago has got no impact on me.

I do recognise that a lot of people like this sort of stuff though.

I disagree, Great Aunt Mildred is part of who you are now. She raised her children and influenced them, they influenced the next generation and so on.

Just like you will influence the next generation in some way and so on, in 300 years there will be a generation of people who in some way have been shaped by you and by Great Aunt Mildred.

Not to say that you have to a) believe the same as me or b) give it a second thought 🤣

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