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To think the hilarity just wasn’t necessary?

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DonnySue · 21/07/2024 20:41

Was at my grandmas earlier with DD (9). My sister, her husband and their kids were there too. We were talking about history and I was absolutely fascinated by it (I love history, especially British history) and at one point I took myself outside into the garden to have a few minutes of thinking and reflection on what we’d been talking about.
DD came out to ask what I was doing and I said “just having a few minutes to reflect on what we’ve been chatting about”.

She went back inside and then I heard howls of laughter coming from the living room. DD had told them what I’d said and they were all in stitches over it. It really ruined my thoughts and I tried to get the topic back up and running but sister kept saying everyone was still reflecting - cue more hilarity.

was what I said really that bloody funny?? Pissed off but also a bit embarrassed 😞

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GumdropsAndLollipops · 22/07/2024 04:11

DonnySue · 21/07/2024 21:30

The conversation was starting to drift into Donald Trump. I didn’t want to talk about him, sick to death of hearing about him

You were in a group setting OP therefore it can’t all be about you.

You already had a conversation about something that really interested you (for long enough that you learnt new things and wanted to reflect on it) yet instead of letting the conversation move onto another topic (that your sister obviously wanted to talk about) you instead kept trying to bring it back to your topic because you “didn’t want to talk” about trump while blatantly ignoring the fact that your sister “didn’t want to talk” about your topic anymore; I’m honestly surprised you don’t see the irony in that.

Your topic of interest was given a turn in the conversation but instead of offering your sister the same courtesy, you tried to shut her down and bring it back to your preference so good on her for not letting you get away with it; maybe if you let the conversation move on, she wouldn’t have made jokes at your expense.

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Clafoutie · 22/07/2024 03:44

Well, all I can say is thank goodness for ‘unusual reactions’. It means there are still interesting, thoughtful people in the world.

Imagine the kind of social circle in which thinking is considered weird.😖

Devilsadvocat · 22/07/2024 04:26

Im sorry but thats familys for you. My family always take the mick but its light hearted. I would laugh too, you take things a bit to serious if you have to go for a break after talking about British History, was it because you know more than them and was getting frustrated noone was taking you seriously enough?.

Copenhagener · 22/07/2024 05:06

Oh no. I think people are being a bit harsh here.

I’m on the ‘spectrum’ myself and a university history graduate. I can definitely relate to this - though my area of interest is WW2/Soviet Union/brutalist architecture. Until I got pregnant I even did a lot of solo travel to various sights around Europe and Central Asia to see where it all happened. It can be jarring to end what I consider a good conversation prematurely to discuss something I don’t find interesting. I can talk for hours on end if I’m engaged….

But few people feel like that.

Luckily my husband’s father is a WW2 buff, we so we entertain each other at family gatherings with whichever book we’re currently reading.

My advice (hard learned over time) is to say the boring thing unless you know the person ‘gets you’. People understand going out for some fresh air or writing a quick email way more readily.

PuddlesPityParty · 22/07/2024 05:32

DonnySue · 21/07/2024 22:57

People who think I’m weird …. Do you not find it fascinating that all those years ago your relatives … your actual blood relatives were going about their lives in medieval Britain? Do you not wonder what they did for a living? What they looked like? Where they lived?

Of course people do but they don’t leave their family mid conversation to “reflect” on it! What you did was rude.

Shoxfordian · 22/07/2024 05:44

Don't take it too much to heart op, but next time think about whatever it is when your visitors have gone or you're alone not mid-conversation

XChrome · 22/07/2024 06:18

PuddlesPityParty · 22/07/2024 05:32

Of course people do but they don’t leave their family mid conversation to “reflect” on it! What you did was rude.

Riiiight. Because etiquette dictates that she was obligated to stay and talk about a depressing subject like Trump instead of excusing herself to take a break. Such nonsense.

Sethera · 22/07/2024 06:36

No need for hilarity at all. It's perfectly reasonable to want a bit of quiet thinking time, away from others.

You called it what it was, but many people would do the same thing by a different name - going for a breath of fresh air, 'having a look at the garden' or even going out for a cigarette if they were a smoker - there are many codes for wanting a short time alone when you are in company.

DonnySue · 22/07/2024 06:41

Vamozz · 21/07/2024 23:24

YABU to "love British history". Personally, I believe that British history is more shameful than beloved but then I'm not British and didn't study the sanitised version of events that is taught here.
Agree with PPs...the post screams of the sistine chapel...pun intended.

I don’t love sanitised history of any country, the majority of my interest is finding out the truth vs the stuff we learnt in school.

Im not ashamed to be British at all, that’s ridiculous. But loving British history doesn’t mean agreeing with everything our ancestors did.

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diktat · 22/07/2024 06:45

She didn’t say you’re ashamed to be British, OP.

TomeTome · 22/07/2024 06:55

The word “reflect” makes you sound a bit pretentious and it’s rude to leave the room because the conversation has moved away from your preferred topic and then try and push the topic back when you return. It’s all a bit performative. You can think about anything at anytime.

mirax · 22/07/2024 06:59

DonnySue · 21/07/2024 21:34

I wasn’t the one with all the facts, my grandma was. That’s why I wanted it to carry on as I was learning things I didn’t already know. I was certainly not lecturing anyone.

And yes DD does sit and reflect after certain school trips. Obviously not the petting zoo etc! But historical ones definitely

You be you, OP. Take an passionate interest interest in something beyond the here and now, reflect (yeah the horror of it!) as much as you want.The vast majority of people are idiots are shown by the replies here and by your relatives' behaviour. They would rather invest countless hours of conversation to hen parties and cheating bfs. Anything deeper is "pretentious and attention seeking", they would never write such scathing things if you had said you were neurodiverse or some such shit. That's the world we live in.

Maria1979 · 22/07/2024 07:01

To be honest, it does sound a bit pretentious to go away to "reflect". I wouldn't have laughed but I would have thought it odd. When hearing something interesting I usually "store it away" to think about later rather than going away to reflect. It sounds like something Socrates would do and that's why they were laughing. If I were you I would use the verbe think when speaking to my daughter or her school mates will find her pompous if she goes off to "reflect". So choice of verbs here really. Reflect is what philosophers do, think is what we mortal normal people do. Or go to France where réfléchir is used as thinking about mundane things as well:)

mirax · 22/07/2024 07:06

TriesNotToBeCynical · 22/07/2024 00:17

There's a strong vein of anti-intellectualism in this country. People would rather watch football and be cattle for clever people to make money off. Hence laughing at people who take any study seriously and think about it. Hence laughing at kids in school who actually want to learn something. I'd just pity your family and smile sweetly. Or discuss what the latest football/instagram/Coronation St idol is telling them to think. And get on with worthwhile study while they're not there.

This.

mirax · 22/07/2024 07:10

Reflect is what philosophers do, think is what we mortal normal people do. Or go to France where réfléchir is used as thinking about mundane things as well:)

How strange to think that reflection is not for the great unwashed, the lesser mortals. That you need higher degrees or possibly a cave up in the mountains as accessories before you can do so. What was all that mindfullness crap in schools about then?

MrHarleyQuin · 22/07/2024 07:11

mirax · 22/07/2024 07:06

This.

There is, I agree. But liking more intellectual pursuits and enjoying intelligent discussion doesn't mean you can't also like popular things like football. Or that you are automatically an intellectual if you don't like popular stuff.

IncompleteSenten · 22/07/2024 07:12

It is an unusual thing to do, there's no sense in denying it, but that doesn't mean it's ok to laugh at you about it.

Your family should know you, understand you and accept you. Mocking you is unnecessary.

Sunnyandsilly · 22/07/2024 07:12

Op, you said it was drifting to trump and didn’t wish to discuss him, and also you wanted to keep talking about history, is that why you left, so you could go outside and basically continue the conversation in your own head?

tuvamoodyson · 22/07/2024 07:13

HolyPeaches · 21/07/2024 21:02

OP, please ignore this patronising comment.

What you did, is not a weird thing to do at all. Nor is it pompous or intense.

Well, it is quite weird….

pasturesgreen · 22/07/2024 07:14

Sister was trying to change the subject

Can't honestly blame her...
In her place, not sure I'd have laughed, but I'd certainly have rolled my eyes. Hard.

As others have said, bit pomous the take you out of that kind of conversation to "reflect".

DancingNotDrowning · 22/07/2024 07:14

Fascinated by the people claiming you can’t think and reflect in a busy room and suggesting that not wanting to repeatedly return to a conversation no one else was interested in makes you a pitiful character whose interest start and stop with soaps and socials.

I’m not an academic so not at the forefront of intelligent and original thinking but I’ve got a masters and I’m a qualified lawyer, I think on my feet, in crowded court rooms and I’ve written a couple of books and contributed to several more. I would have roared with laughter if my brothers or sisters had done this.

but is suspect the difference is I like them, they like me, none of us have a superiority complex and we all recognise that it’s not appropriate to hog a conversation.

smallmountainbear · 22/07/2024 07:14

Only read page 1, but really disagree.

I’d admire you OP. I admire people who stop and think. So many people just jump in to conversations, determine to impose their views on others, rather than reflecting and thinking about what is being said.

And you are with family, where you should be comfortable.

Your family were pretty shitty to laugh at you. I suspect they don’t reflect much.

The world would be a lot better if they was a lot more reflecting and a lot less grabbing at reasons to laugh at other.

You keep on being you OP.

smallmountainbear · 22/07/2024 07:19

DonnySue · 21/07/2024 21:09

Ok fair enough. I don’t understand why like

I don’t see being interested in this as weird either.

But then I am interested in a lot of things. I like that about myself. I hang out with people who like to think, reflect and discuss too.

There’s a lot of undertone of ‘I’m proud to be a bit thick, don’t take myself to seriously, but do take seriously policing what I think should be normal’ on this thread.

CowTown · 22/07/2024 07:22

theleafandnotthetree · 21/07/2024 22:53

Your family are EXACTLY the people to mock you! Most families engage in slagging, ribbing, etc as an integral part of family culture, I'd rather that so long as it stays on the right side of mean than polite formality.

My family don’t do this.

DH’s family don’t do this.

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