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dd accidentally accused girls of serious things they never did

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BeWarmOtter · 21/06/2024 12:37

My dd is 15. We are not in the UK so she still has 2 years at her school with her cohort. At the start of the year, she got to know 2 girls in class. As they just got to know each other, dd's bestie told her that she overheard the girls calling her a pick me and was plotting to trick my dd into playing a sex game. My dd dismissed it at first but the bestie kept on telling her it, which made her freak out. The bestie suggested going to the form teacher about it, and dd went with her as she was so scared it might actually happen to her. She didnt know the girls well then.

The form teacher instructed dd not to interact with the girls anymore, but somehow dd felt upset about the instruction and continued to gauge interaction with the girls. She had the feeling that something isnt quite right and she missed the girls but she couldnt dictate what exactly was the issue. After the holidays, in a class my dd was having a little bit of fun with the girls as she had finished her work. That afternoon, her bestie informed her that a friend of the girls sent her text messages about how the girls was saying a bunch of really mean comments about dd. dd was really angry and upset and got passive aggressive with the girls.

The bestie promised to send dd the screenshots as prove but still couldnt send it for a week. The day when dd was literally rushing her to give her the screenshot she suddenly lost access to everything that she could have screenshotted with. When she could finally give dd a screenshot it was very obviously fake.

The girls believed that dd was part of the plot and they dont trust dd anymore. Around the same time dd discovered that the bestie was also making ridiculous things up about her other friends, aiming to isolate her with everyone but the bestie herself.

Dd felt horrible that she falsely accused the girls of the stuff to the form teacher as the girls got into trouble. She wrote them an apology letter but now she feels like its cringe. The girls have been acting weird around her; we are on holidays now and they snap her less often and replaced with surroundings instead of their usual selfie.

I want to give dd insights of how to navigate the situation but I don't have much. Any insights will be appreciated. She misses the girls but she doesnt want to make them feel pressured into anything. She cut ties with the bestie but now she is scared of her as the bestie already made fake screenshots of her badmouthing her good friend, who doesnt know who to believe.

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BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 08:50

Liliee · 22/06/2024 08:45

Can you see how important some out of school activities would be? Over time they allow perspective as not everything is focussed on school. Especially if she is ND.

Yes I can. Dd is looking for volunteering opportunities relating to something medical but no luck yet.

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BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 08:52

Bristolnewcomer · 22/06/2024 08:46

Ah ok so “summer” holidays are over Christmas sort of time?

in that case I’d definitely concentrate on life outside of school so she can build confidence and have other things to help her keep going when school is shit. Are there any bands or orchestras etc in your area? Would she enjoy something like theatre? If she’s more confident in herself she hopefully wouldn’t be so obsessed with being a “good bestie” (which I feel could easily segue into being “a good girlfriend” and being a bit of a doormat when she’s a little older). Side note - if anyone accuses you of being a “bad bestie” or whatever they are manipulating you!

The “girls” Sound nice and if she just tried to stay cool, be normal around them at school and stop angsting so much they may well become friends if she gives them time. I guess the question is how long would it take you to get over someone at work accusing you of what she accused them of? Even if they did it because they were lied to.

Yes her summer holidays are across the end and start of a year. You are so right---- when dd told her ex-bestie she found her to be lying all those times she was called a backstabber and a bad bestie. The ex-bestie even got her other bestie to be mad at her and told her that she should believe her bestie no matter what.

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willWillSmithsmith · 22/06/2024 08:52

Imnotsu · 21/06/2024 13:29

I've never seen the word 'bestie' typed so much or realised people said that in real life. I'm sorry this is such a pointless post lol

I don’t ever want to hear or read the word ‘bestie’ again 😁

Crystallizedring · 22/06/2024 08:55

Are the classes very small? I'm a bit confused about why she can only sit near her ex best friend or the other girls. There must be other students she can sit by.
I don't think your DD can count on these girls being her friend again. I would tell my DD not to get involved with her.
I feel sorry for your daughter but she's going to have to find different friends.

BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 08:57

Crystallizedring · 22/06/2024 08:55

Are the classes very small? I'm a bit confused about why she can only sit near her ex best friend or the other girls. There must be other students she can sit by.
I don't think your DD can count on these girls being her friend again. I would tell my DD not to get involved with her.
I feel sorry for your daughter but she's going to have to find different friends.

In those classes where they sit are pretty much fixed by their choice at the start of the school year. The only available seat to her other than the one she is sitting in currently is the one next to the girls.

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Athena51 · 22/06/2024 09:02

willWillSmithsmith · 22/06/2024 08:52

I don’t ever want to hear or read the word ‘bestie’ again 😁

Oh God, I was going to say the same. I've developed a twitch when I see it now Grin

SomethingFun · 22/06/2024 09:08

You can’t make anyone be your friend. Even if you haven’t accused someone of planning a sex crime against you they don’t have to be your friend. This is one of life’s lessons that we all need to learn. Same for romantic partners. Even being super nice and trying to be the best friend/ partner you can be isn’t going to make that person be your friend or a good friend/ partner to you.

Bristolnewcomer · 22/06/2024 09:12

BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 08:50

Yes I can. Dd is looking for volunteering opportunities relating to something medical but no luck yet.

Is there anything with St John ambulance in your area (I see they operate in Australia and South Africa - just two I googled to check randomly as I don’t know where you are)? My relative who’s ND did stuff with them as a teenager and I think enjoyed it.

BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 09:14

Bristolnewcomer · 22/06/2024 09:12

Is there anything with St John ambulance in your area (I see they operate in Australia and South Africa - just two I googled to check randomly as I don’t know where you are)? My relative who’s ND did stuff with them as a teenager and I think enjoyed it.

Thank you! I will definitely encourage dd to take a look at this

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VickyEadieofThigh · 22/06/2024 09:17

Shortfatsuit · 21/06/2024 13:49

I do feel terribly sorry for teachers having to deal with this sort of nonsense. Must be very wearing!

Indeed. And when parents get involved it usually makes even more work for teachers.

BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 09:19

VickyEadieofThigh · 22/06/2024 09:17

Indeed. And when parents get involved it usually makes even more work for teachers.

Don't get me wrong I am not involved with the at the school or in the situation I am just looking for better advice to offer to my dd!

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BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 09:29

willWillSmithsmith · 22/06/2024 08:52

I don’t ever want to hear or read the word ‘bestie’ again 😁

Sorry if Im causing discomfort I am just using dd's language to describe the situation to prevent miscommunicating anything here

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Bristolnewcomer · 22/06/2024 09:38

I think also OP it is important to be clear that contrary to your title she didn’t “accidentally” accuse the girls. She was peer pressured and lied to, which I understand that if she is autistic for example it might be harder for her as she may find it tricky to tell when people are lying, but she made the choice to report them based on hearsay. Probably she did this because she was scared? However it wasn’t an accident, it was a decision. Her ex bestie sounds like a piece of work however she will need to find an appropriate way to deal with arseholes (don’t we all), for example if something similar happened again she could speak to a trusted parent or teacher reporting what she knows rather than what she’s been told. In this case it would be “Best friend has been telling me these girls plan to trick me.” It’s then the job of the parents/teacher to help her think out whether this is the case And try to resolve the whole thing without letting it get out of control.

diddl · 22/06/2024 09:38

Don't get me wrong I am not involved with the at the school or in the situation I am just looking for better advice to offer to my dd!

I think if she sits next to one of the girls that's fine.

Plenty of people manage to get along with/be polite to/work with others that they aren't friends with nor want to be.

It's certainly part of 2ndry school.

Was she asking you for advice about the situation at the time?

BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 09:44

Bristolnewcomer · 22/06/2024 09:38

I think also OP it is important to be clear that contrary to your title she didn’t “accidentally” accuse the girls. She was peer pressured and lied to, which I understand that if she is autistic for example it might be harder for her as she may find it tricky to tell when people are lying, but she made the choice to report them based on hearsay. Probably she did this because she was scared? However it wasn’t an accident, it was a decision. Her ex bestie sounds like a piece of work however she will need to find an appropriate way to deal with arseholes (don’t we all), for example if something similar happened again she could speak to a trusted parent or teacher reporting what she knows rather than what she’s been told. In this case it would be “Best friend has been telling me these girls plan to trick me.” It’s then the job of the parents/teacher to help her think out whether this is the case And try to resolve the whole thing without letting it get out of control.

"Best friend has been telling me these girls plan to trick me" was exactly what she said to the teacher. The teacher couldn't find out the truth so she just had a word with the girls.

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BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 09:45

diddl · 22/06/2024 09:38

Don't get me wrong I am not involved with the at the school or in the situation I am just looking for better advice to offer to my dd!

I think if she sits next to one of the girls that's fine.

Plenty of people manage to get along with/be polite to/work with others that they aren't friends with nor want to be.

It's certainly part of 2ndry school.

Was she asking you for advice about the situation at the time?

At the time she wasn't asking for advice much but now she is

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Imnotsu · 22/06/2024 09:48

BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 09:29

Sorry if Im causing discomfort I am just using dd's language to describe the situation to prevent miscommunicating anything here

We would understand what a best friend is, it's not some secret code 😁

It's stopping me being able to post sensible advice reading 'bestie' 5 times within a 6 line post. Obviously you can write whatever you choose.... But I'm glad I'm not the only one driven insane by it haha

BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 10:29

Sorry for bothering everyone here but dd is asking if she should ask the girls before moving seats as it will affect them? There seems not to be a solution for the seating arrangement problem.

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NotSoSimpleHere · 22/06/2024 10:33

BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 10:29

Sorry for bothering everyone here but dd is asking if she should ask the girls before moving seats as it will affect them? There seems not to be a solution for the seating arrangement problem.

I think you're making a much bigger thing of this than it needs to be. She could go in, stand by a seat and ask if they mind if she sits there, casually. It really doesn't matter where she sits (other than her own discomfort with either position) because sitting near someone doesn't mean having to interact more than necessary to be polite.

FavRos · 22/06/2024 10:34

Sorry, did I miss that your dd is ND? That's a whole different story as this would make her vulnerable.

"Best friend has been telling me these girls plan to trick me" was exactly what she said to the teacher. The teacher couldn't find out the truth so she just had a word with the girls.

This is quite a naive thing to say to a teacher in secondary I think not even in year 5 or 6 would this go down well. If your dd is ND, can you do social stories to help her deal with the complexities of relationships?

At the end of the day, she snitched and really should't have. There are much more clever way to deal with this. As a rule of thumb if a 'friend' tells you that other are saying horrible things about you, it's is probably NOT a friend.

Ditch the concept of bestie, too much expectation attached to this. Friendships should be about, fun and mutual support and respect. If you feel shit around your friends, they're no friends.

coodawoodashooda · 22/06/2024 10:35

NeedToChangeName · 21/06/2024 12:50

My advice to my DC has always been quite straightforward -

(1) hang out with people who make you feel good about yourself

(2) avoid the ones who bring you down

(3) avoid drama

(4) be kind, but not a pushover

(5) this is how adults do friendships

Good luck. I think your DD might be best just avoiding these girls completely and looking for some nicer friends

This is great

BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 10:36

NotSoSimpleHere · 22/06/2024 10:33

I think you're making a much bigger thing of this than it needs to be. She could go in, stand by a seat and ask if they mind if she sits there, casually. It really doesn't matter where she sits (other than her own discomfort with either position) because sitting near someone doesn't mean having to interact more than necessary to be polite.

Dd feels like she shouldn't initiate interaction with the girls for a while unless they initiate it as she doesn't want to pressure them into talking to her or anything. The seat is right next to them, not just near them. She would be uncomfortable sitting next to ex-bestie but personally she would like to sit next to the girls, if it wasn't for the above concern.

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BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 10:40

FavRos · 22/06/2024 10:34

Sorry, did I miss that your dd is ND? That's a whole different story as this would make her vulnerable.

"Best friend has been telling me these girls plan to trick me" was exactly what she said to the teacher. The teacher couldn't find out the truth so she just had a word with the girls.

This is quite a naive thing to say to a teacher in secondary I think not even in year 5 or 6 would this go down well. If your dd is ND, can you do social stories to help her deal with the complexities of relationships?

At the end of the day, she snitched and really should't have. There are much more clever way to deal with this. As a rule of thumb if a 'friend' tells you that other are saying horrible things about you, it's is probably NOT a friend.

Ditch the concept of bestie, too much expectation attached to this. Friendships should be about, fun and mutual support and respect. If you feel shit around your friends, they're no friends.

Do you mind sharing what the more clever ways would be? At the time dd couldn't be sure whether the allegations were true or not and she didn't want to risk it actually happening. That's why she went to the teacher. It would have been bad if it turned out to be true and she didn't tell the teacher.

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NotSoSimpleHere · 22/06/2024 10:55

BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 10:36

Dd feels like she shouldn't initiate interaction with the girls for a while unless they initiate it as she doesn't want to pressure them into talking to her or anything. The seat is right next to them, not just near them. She would be uncomfortable sitting next to ex-bestie but personally she would like to sit next to the girls, if it wasn't for the above concern.

Sitting next to them is not initiating interaction or putting pressure on them to speak with her. I'm sure there are many situations where you sit next to someone and don't interact with them? This is an option the girls have too. There is no need for anything other than a smile or polite hello.

gillefc82 · 22/06/2024 10:56

BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 10:29

Sorry for bothering everyone here but dd is asking if she should ask the girls before moving seats as it will affect them? There seems not to be a solution for the seating arrangement problem.

I think she should just walk in, sit down and if they make eye contact / look over just smile and say hi, then just start getting her text books, pencil case etc out of her bag and get ready for the lesson. Don’t make it a big deal. Don’t put any pressure on it. Just keep it lowkey and casual. It’s then up to them how they respond - whether they ignore her, just say hi back or start chatting away to her as if nothing has happened etc, but at least this way the ice is broken and she’s demonstrated she is willing and able to be polite and friendly.

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