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People commenting on my 6 YO DD weight?

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mumspiration1997 · 29/05/2024 20:09

I've had 3 different family members commenting on my daughters weight this week. "She's really filled out" "you should watch what she's eating" etc etc . Possibly from a place of concern as they wouldn't be people to be obviously nasty. For context she's 4 stone and average height. Is this a problem? She's a great appetite and an active girl who definitely loves a wee treat but big deal. I'm 9 stone and very active myself so it's not like I'm purposely just laying around setting bad examples. Perhaps maybe I should be making her eat healthier but I mean she eats fruit and ham sandwiches and chicken nuggets and mash and veg and the takeout with the whole family om a sat McDonald's etc. Big deal??!!! She's 6 I was just grateful she has a good appetite. Aibu???? Or r they???

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HcbSS · 30/05/2024 14:54

amijustbeingsuspicious · 29/05/2024 22:26

We wouldn’t be in this obesity crisis if people were a bit more vocal and a bit less offended by the truth. As a nation we could use a bit of a thicker skin.

Listen to this poster! Absolute double dose of common sense here!

Fortunately the OP recognises that there is something wrong and seems to have a good attitude, and is going to do something about it. She has taken her eye off the ball - it happens, and the kid is young enough that she can lose the weight without risking becoming a porky teenager.

CerealPonderer · 30/05/2024 14:55

I am not interested in engaging with someone who cannot work out that if a child is on the 67th centile they’re in the upper end

I fully understand that. 67th percentile is still within the accepted range for a healthy weight though.

What you don't seem to understand is the concept of centiles themselves and that 'heavier than average' is not the same as 'too heavy'.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 30/05/2024 14:59

The OP daughter is simply eating too much. No one needs breakfast, then a croissant, then lunch, then another “snack”, then unhealthy chicken nugget tea, then a filling supper. That is at least two meals or 1000 calories per day too much.

Investinmyself · 30/05/2024 15:02

The croissants/pancakes/waffles probably don’t really register as junk food but 3 of those a day especially if she’s having Nutella on could be half the little girls cals on her mid morning snack, after school snack and snack before bed. Easily cut out or swapped for a healthier snack.

Isitautumnyet23 · 30/05/2024 15:02

Investinmyself · 30/05/2024 14:44

@Isitautumnyet23 It explains why lots of parents don’t realise. Op says she thought her child was in line with rest of her class but it’s likely that at least a 1/4 are already overweight.

Thats very true and same as the adult population. If you look at photos of the beach from the 70’s, every adult looks what would be called ‘skinny’ today. They weren’t skinny, they were normal. What is considered ‘normal’ these days has drastically changed. So many people are in the obese category and dont even realise it because its so normal to see bigger people.

Whalesong · 30/05/2024 15:04

mumspiration1997 · 29/05/2024 20:53

Thanks for all the tips. She generally eats breakfast, cereal, school snacks pancake or crossiant and fruit. School dinner and then they have pudding. Snack when home banana or something sweet like waffle yougurt and chocolate (I realise this is actually sounding too much as I type it) then dinner chicken nuggets mash and beans and then pancake or toast for supper. Can anyone advise something healthier? I've twin girls aged 9months so I generally think I've just been surviving rather than thriving.... hopefully not at the expense of my daughters health:(

That does sound like a lot, and a lot of pretty unhealthy and sugary things to boot, but it seems like you've taken that on board.
I'm originally from a different European country and I admit that I was shocked that nurseries and schools in the UK serve sweet puddings with every meal (not to mention hospitals!). For me, morning snack in school should just be a piece of fruit (assuming she's had a decent breakfast). Snack at home after school, again some fruit or a yoghurt, or maybe a cereal bar. Then a good dinner - but why yet another meal as supper? At most maybe a glass of milk? Those aren't healthy habits to set.

wellington77 · 30/05/2024 15:10

I’ve just googled average weight of a 6 year old, the top range was 60 pounds, and your daughter is 56 pounds, so according to this she is at the top end. . If I was you, if you’re not sure, go to the GP, get them to weigh her properly and get their advice. If people are saying things- sadly I think they are most likely right based on these numbers. Just to add- from reading what she has when she comes home- it sounds like she’s essentially having two dinners and a snack on top- I would cut this down for starters, she really should be having pancakes as a snack on top of her dinner in the evening

DisabledDemon · 30/05/2024 15:21

I'd only say, be careful. When I was younger, I was quite big (tall for my age and a bit on the heavy side. (I was very sporty and had regular dance classes so carrying a some muscle.) A visit by the school doctor saw me stuck on a diet (at 9!) and I cannot describe the sense of humiliation I felt at lunchtime when everyone else was eating from the regular menu and I was being given a plate of salad. I also ended up with a very uneasy relationship with food for many years afterwards.

I really could have done without the world and his wife's opinion on what weight I should be and what I should do to achieve it as I became ultra-sensitive about any mention of it - in fact, it sometimes still catches me, even now - so I'd tell those family members making personal remarks about your daughter to fuck right off. Yes, she needs to eat healthily. No, she does not need a running commentary.

Otherstories2002 · 30/05/2024 15:23

shearwater2 · 30/05/2024 14:24

"Upper end" does not mean overweight. Over the 90th centile is overweight.

The centiles based on average children. A child sat on the 67th centile is on the wrong side of 50. You don’t want to be on the heavier side. But ignore the reality. Had no affect on me.

CelesteCunningham · 30/05/2024 15:33

Otherstories2002 · 30/05/2024 15:23

The centiles based on average children. A child sat on the 67th centile is on the wrong side of 50. You don’t want to be on the heavier side. But ignore the reality. Had no affect on me.

There is no "wrong side of 50". There's a wrong side of 90 and a wrong side of five (or so). In between there's a wide range of healthy.

Jk987 · 30/05/2024 15:39

BurbageBrook · 29/05/2024 21:02

One more thing I forgot to add is while it's important to change her diet please don't talk about weight in front of her as it can be so damaging. If she asks why the change you can talk about the dangers of processed foods and how the whole family is making an effort to be healthier.

Don't cause worry by using the word dangers, risks etc. she's too young for that! It causes a distinction between good and bad food which can lead to so called bad food becoming more attractive.

Just saying you're trying out new things.

Goldbar · 30/05/2024 15:40

Like people have mentioned, just keep an eye and maybe cut down a bit on the snacks. I also have a 6yo and a little one (not twins - hats off to you for getting by) and it's relentless sometimes and the older one has been given nutritionally empty snacks too often just to keep them onside. My DC is on the thin side, but only because they're a terrible eater generally and super-fussy and I do worry about whether they're getting enough nutrients, especially protein. And yes, croissants, McDonalds and other junk are all very popular here 😬.

I agree with the poster who says don't mention it, just make some small changes. With the summer holidays approaching and two babies to look after, can you put your DD into camps at least a few days a week? If you can afford it, I definitely would - the worst thing for encouraging snacking is boredom and just being around the house with snacks available, but equally you must be exhausted and have limited capacity to get them all out of the house being active every day. I find it really helpful being able to drop the older one at camp with just a healthy snack and lunch 2-3 days a week in terms of keeping a healthy balance during the holidays.

Investinmyself · 30/05/2024 15:40

I really don’t understand the vitriol to the granny or auntie who has diplomatically said to mum who provides the food that mum needs to watch what she is giving her.
Op fully admits she had no idea her little girl was quite overweight.
The relatives will presumably see what mum is giving the little girl foodwise and the frequency of snacks.
If they hadn’t said anything mum would have carried on and in all likelihood she’d be in the category obese or overweight finishing primary school.
Surely it’s kinder to say something to food provider now and nip in bud.
The relatives don’t deserve to be called a cow or to fuck off for broaching it with mum.
There’s no suggestion they have said anything to child or within her earshot.

Otherstories2002 · 30/05/2024 16:05

CelesteCunningham · 30/05/2024 15:33

There is no "wrong side of 50". There's a wrong side of 90 and a wrong side of five (or so). In between there's a wide range of healthy.

I don’t agree. Overweight children being the norm doesn’t make it healthy. Come back in a decade and see where those kids have landed on the adult BMI scale.

CelesteCunningham · 30/05/2024 16:10

Otherstories2002 · 30/05/2024 16:05

I don’t agree. Overweight children being the norm doesn’t make it healthy. Come back in a decade and see where those kids have landed on the adult BMI scale.

I'm not sure what's causing the confusion. PP's child has a BMI on the 64th centile and is officially a healthy weight and nowhere near overweight. Do you genuinely not understand that there is a range of weights that is healthy at any given height and age? Some smaller and some bigger but all healthy. And then there are weights outside that range that are too low or too high.

It's not a matter of opinion.

mumspiration1997 · 30/05/2024 16:16

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shearwater2 · 30/05/2024 16:22

Otherstories2002 · 30/05/2024 15:23

The centiles based on average children. A child sat on the 67th centile is on the wrong side of 50. You don’t want to be on the heavier side. But ignore the reality. Had no affect on me.

No, there are a range of weights which are healthy between the 7th centile and the 90th.

It's a bit like arguing with a government minister who thinks that all children should be above average academically.

My 15 year old is 5'10 and ten stone, so she is exactly on the 50th centile for weight. I'm not about to tell her to lose half a stone just so she can be in the bottom half. She could be a stone heavier or a stone lighter and still a healthy weight.

Otherstories2002 · 30/05/2024 16:25

CelesteCunningham · 30/05/2024 16:10

I'm not sure what's causing the confusion. PP's child has a BMI on the 64th centile and is officially a healthy weight and nowhere near overweight. Do you genuinely not understand that there is a range of weights that is healthy at any given height and age? Some smaller and some bigger but all healthy. And then there are weights outside that range that are too low or too high.

It's not a matter of opinion.

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And do you understand that the mid point - 50 - is just that. As children get heavier that mid point relates to heavier children. Children today are overweight. Our idea of what’s healthy is utterly warped.

Pickledpopcorn · 30/05/2024 16:25

My dc are always on the 99th and then drop right down currently the older 2 at age 11 and age 13 are on the 12th and the 17th . Youngest still on 99th

shearwater2 · 30/05/2024 16:26

When I was 16 I was slightly overweight in the 91st centile. "Come back a decade later" - I was BMI 19 as a 26 year old.

drspouse · 30/05/2024 16:28

@Investinmyself those stats are indeed horrifying. 40% of year 6s overweight! I have a year 5 and a year 7 - the year 7 gets regular growth checks but as he's on ADHD meds they are never problematic - the year 5 is a skinny minny and as I've said pretty good at stopping when she's full - just need to watch her sugar intake. She is however from an ethnic group which has a high genetic risk of overweight.

Namechange43654 · 30/05/2024 16:28

Otherstories2002 · 30/05/2024 15:23

The centiles based on average children. A child sat on the 67th centile is on the wrong side of 50. You don’t want to be on the heavier side. But ignore the reality. Had no affect on me.

So, using your logic, the 'healthy' bmi scale for adults is between 18 and 25. Under 18 is underweight and over 25 overweight (same as second percentile and 90th for children).

Admittedly the adult range is not percentiles, but the median of that is 21.5. So all adults with a BMI above 21.5 are on the wrong side? Hope you don't have one greater than that!

drspouse · 30/05/2024 16:33

(And what's extra scary is that the number of children who are overweight DOUBLES between Reception and Y6. What are we doing to our children??)

Grinchinlaws · 30/05/2024 16:34

@mumspiration1997 she does look a little overweight.

I have a 6 yo who looks like skin and bone to me (can see all ribs, spine, knobbly little knees, no fat anywhere) but he is 75th centile weight and height so perfectly in proportion. We’ve forgotten what “normal” kids should look like.

It’s great that you have noticed and are taking action.

PPs have made lots of good points about her diet - for me the thing that stood out is that she is eating loads of UPFs. If you can replace these with real foods (read up on the science) she will feel fuller and it will be so much healthier for her, and for all of you.

rainbowunicorn · 30/05/2024 16:35

shearwater2 · 30/05/2024 07:15

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You know that even after you edit we can still see the original post? Dont know where you are getting your calculations but a 5 year old at 116 cm weighing 3 stone 11 lbs is most certainly overweight at the 90th centile on the NHS
Nowhere near 17th