Support Plaid Cymru MP - Helen Mary Jones

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Not sure if there's been a thread on this.

Welsh (Plaid Cymru) MP Helen Mary Jones seems to be getting the Rosie Duffield treatment on twitter.

She has deleted a retweet and has seemingly been made to apologise.

twitter.com/HelenMaryCymru/status/1336686916213813252?s=20

It's hard to see what she retweeted as it's now deleted but it seems to be a retweet of a Professor Rosa Freedman tweet calling out JM's offensive response to the recent Keira Bell judgement.

twitter.com/GoonerProf/status/1335277156847546373 (Rosa's tweet)

Last night, Adam Price, leader of Plaid Cymru did a mantra statement on twitter....

twitter.com/Adamprice/status/1336718715497410562

Helen Mary Jones now being subjected to the "she needs reeducation, this is a teachable moment, she should be removed" treatment.

I’ve just dipped into Twitter to have a look. The pile on is horrible. There is so much venom from the Yes campaigners as well.

Hmmm.
"The retweets cause a lot of damage to people like myself. I for one have attempted suicide 4x" says one irate, dissapointed critic.

Has Rosa Freedman deleted her account? Can't see the original tweet.

@Defaultname

Hmmm. "The retweets cause a lot of damage to people like myself. I for one have attempted suicide 4x" says one irate, dissapointed critic.

Maybe stay off Twitter then, anonymous critic.

I share your scepticism, Defaultname

It says Rosa's account no longer exists.

Hard to comment without seeing the tweet.

This is the tweet, from the BBC story about this.

The BBC refer to Professor Rosa Freedman as 'a Reading University lecturer'.

What ?! Is this right ? Jewish woman objects to gentile man using the holocaust to attempt to make a point for an ideology that ironically involves experimenting medically on children, HMJ retweets this and is now in hot water ?

Link to the BBC story.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55259522

Rosa Freedman's twitter account seems to have disappeared in the last hour or two. I had a look at it when I first saw the piece on the BBC site, and it said her tweets were protected, and now it says the account doesn't exist.

I'm so utterly sick of this. Dozens of tweets from the top down denouncing HMJ for continued 'transphobia' and support for 'hate groups' from the same old faces. I don't imagine any of those criticizing her have actually read the original tweet and understood the context. There's not an original thought in any of them, just repeating the same old TWAW / biology is old-hat / burn the witch. FFS it's like living in a parallel universe.

This Plaid, is why I couldn't vote for you in the GE and will not be doing so in the forthcoming Senedd elections (or anyone else for that matter).

I normally do vote Plaid. I come from a family of Plaid voters. I can’t vote for a party that sees no difference between my tiny 13 year old daughter and an adult male with a penis.

Can we write to Adam Price ? How on earth does retweeting that comment on an incredibly offensive tweet count as “transphobia” ??
Does Mr Price not realise that Keira won her case ?

So in that article people are leaving Plaid because of the supposed transphobia, but don’t seem to give a damn about the appropriation of the holocaust, the murder of millions of jewish people including babies and children, plus disabled people, people from other ethnic groups like gypsies, and also homosexuals. All that is fine ??? I am in a fury.

I don't imagine any of those criticizing her have actually read the original tweet and understood the context.

Here are a couple of replies to Helen Mary Jones's apology on twitter. They don't seem to understand what Rosa Freedman's tweet was about.

Are you going to renounce the transphobia and holocaust denial you endorsed?
twitter.com/spartakusbund18/status/1336750621035294722

Let's also be clear, the retweet was of a view that essentially denied that a particular group of people were targeted by the Nazis. I wonder if the party realises, on top of the transphobia, how serious this additional detail is.
twitter.com/mattyoude/status/1336711239494459395

What the fuck is he on about ? Rosa is a jewish, lesbian woman, who like many others, found JM’s tweet highly offensive.

Has anyone contacted Adam price or PLAID with support for her? I am going to do so.

I am going to do so too.

@SirVixofVixHall

What the fuck is he on about ? Rosa is a jewish, lesbian woman, who like many others, found JM’s tweet highly offensive.

I tried to compose a tweet in support of HMJ including this but I'm not eloquent enough and gave up unfortunately.

I shall be contacting AP too. I thought after Leanne Wood he'd be a breath of fresh air, but he's been an utter disappointment with regards this issue.

I don't understand how that tweet is holocaust denial

Just catching up with the thread - Rosa's tweet was there earlier. I wonder if she got abuse after her stellar appearance at the Women and Equalities committee meeting yesterday or if the account deletion is related to the Plaid Cymru debacle?

It's disgusting the way that both Rosa and Helen Mary are being treated over this.

Rosa has every right to point out the offensive nature of JM's analogy, a lot of other Jewish barristers were making the same points at the weekend. No JM, a high court judgement you don't like bears no comparison to the mass genocide of millions of Jewish people - why does that even need to be stated?

I'll be writing to the Adam Price.

twitter.com/GoonerProf/status/1337418942223093762?s=09
Rosa's made a formal complaint to the BBC.

Rosa has every right to point out the offensive nature of JM's analogy, a lot of other Jewish barristers were making the same points at the weekend. No JM, a high court judgement you don't like bears no comparison to the mass genocide of millions of Jewish people - why does that even need to be stated?

This.

I have sent her a message of support. I'll email Adam Price too, making my position clear. I really think that most Plaid voters, outside the young, woke, twittersphere would agree with Helen-Mary rather than Adam Price.
I'm a bloody member as well! I've made it clear to her (and will to him) that I'm ready to leave the party over this. I don't suppose he will say 'go on then' as the lib dems did, but you never know.
I've met Adam Price, and was impressed with him on a personal level, but once I realised that his young son has an American surrogate mother, I couldn't shake off my feeling that he doesn't really care about women's rights...
I'm really disapointed about this, as I did do my homework before joining, and was led to believe that the feeling within the party was aligned with biology, truth and common sense rather than magical thinking.
I will let you know when/if I hear anything back.

I am late to this but so massively fucked off about it. The arse-backward sanctimony of Welsh Twitter over self id was bad enough, but this is wrong in so many ways I hardly know where to start. Also a sodding member but feeling less and less like even voting for the daft fuckers in the senedd elections.

Leanne Wood has a closed Facebook group where they've been dragging Helen for about two years with no sort of self awareness about the fact that they're being a bunch of bullying pricks. I got the sense from the relative public silence on the subject in recent months that Adam Price had basically asked everyone to shut up about it, which was probably a good call politically. Obviously the crybullies have had their way now.

The immediate leap to hyperbole and hysteria by people who have clearly not read the original tweet and have no idea of the context tells its own story.
The woke wing of Plaid (which appears worryingly extensive on twitter but might just consist of 3 men and a dog IRL) have been trying to get HMJ canceled for years. This is just another excuse for their rampant misogyny.
She has our absolute support, individually and collectively.