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Feminism: Sex & gender discussions

Quillette Article: the stats about trans in women’s prison

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mooncuplanding · 13/10/2019 08:53

Quillette is a interesting publication as it is very very pro free speech.

This article takes a look at the numbers of dangerous male criminals being placed in women’s prisons under the trans inclusion label.

Sleepwalking into a nightmare!

quillette.com/2019/10/12/male-bodied-rapists-are-being-imprisoned-with-women-why-do-so-few-people-care/

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Qcng · 13/10/2019 09:12

Christ, that is so grim and upsetting to read.
Those poor women.

Qcng · 13/10/2019 09:33

I just did some maths based on the last line of that article that currently 1 in 50 male prisoners in the UK are claiming to be women

So UK prison population (from Wiki)
Male - 79,749
Female - 3,869

1 in 50 of 79,749 is 1,594

1,594 is close to half of 3,869 (slightly less than)

If gender identity in prisons goes full steam, the women's prison population would increase by half. Approximately 1 in 3 would be male.
Even if 1 in 4 are male that's unbelievable.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 13/10/2019 09:40

I think FPFW numbers were that 1 in 20 prisoners in women's prisons are currently male. that's absolutely bonkers

why are we putting men in women's prisons?

AnyOldPrion · 13/10/2019 09:44

This situation is probably the most appalling part of this whole dystopian experiment. This is the reason why we have to point out as loudly and often as we can that these are MEN.

Clayts51 · 13/10/2019 09:51

I just don't understand why this is being allowed to happen, especially when the TW concerned are sex offenders, or even worse putting a so-called TW child sex offender in a prison which houses women & children?! I just can't comprehend how anyone can think this is ok. What does a male offender, who says he's trans, have to do to be refused entry into a women's prison? I mean, there's supposed to be safeguards, but I'm thinking the bar must be set so low as to be non existent. I'm wondering how the decision makers on this sleep at night, especially women. Do they ever think of the poor incarcerated women (many already sex abuse victims) who they've condemned to being locked up with males?

Sicario · 13/10/2019 12:17

It's because all the people making these decisions don't give a single shit about women, women's right, and women's safety.

Any woman who isn't terrified about what's happening is either oblivious to the facts or is an idiot.

RubyViolet · 13/10/2019 13:52

Sicario, l think the same thing unfortunately. They don’t give a shit about women and girls at all.
Sharing this article it’s an eye opener.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 13/10/2019 18:10

So given that being trans is innate, something you are born, with, and given the disproportionately high number of prisoners identifying as transwomen - does that mean that tw are more likely to offend than other males?

HepzibahGreen · 13/10/2019 19:33

No! It means that if you are given a choice where to serve at her majesty's pleasure-a women's prison or a men's prison- a large proportion of criminals will of course opt for the former!
Just like if the kosher meals are nicer suddenly a large proportion of prisoners will be "Jewish".
The problem is not caused by people actually working on the front line in prisons themselves. They know full well that men don't belong with women. The problem is that the decisions are made in the MoJ but we'll meaning but clueless people who have never really met anyone who has been to prison, and believe that a "transwomen" is always a very effeminate homosexual man who would be unsafe in with the men.

WineGummyBear · 13/10/2019 20:32

I couldn't finish reading. It's awful. She's right (and everyone on these boards too) when she says there's nothing nothing surprising or unforeseeable in any of this.

The only conclusion is that women, especially poor, vulnerable women are expendable. They just don't care.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 13/10/2019 22:18

No! It means that if you are given a choice where to serve at her majesty's pleasure-a women's prison or a men's prison- a large proportion of criminals will of course opt for the former!

But men would never pretend to be trans to get some sort of advantage... Surely if a male prisoner says that they are a transwomen, than they are a transwomen? Acceptance without exception and all that. Surely it would be deeply transphobic to question their self-identification?

ChipOnMyOvary · 13/10/2019 22:59

This article blew my mind.

That they can lock up babies with paedophiles who have raped babies is an abomination.

You don't even need to mention the words trans or woman to know that something is going extremely wrong. Yet the word trans is like a vaccine.

Imagine that being inoculated against protecting babies from rape

ChipOnMyOvary · 13/10/2019 23:07

colon missing

Imagine that: being inoculated against protecting babies from rape.

NotTerfNorCis · 13/10/2019 23:13

What's the statistic for transmen in men's jails? Zero I bet.

ChipOnMyOvary · 14/10/2019 00:23

True

FilthyBiscuit · 14/10/2019 00:32

And yet still my friends say TWAW and don't understand why I am so fucking angry.

Orangepearl · 14/10/2019 00:43

Truly terrible.

HepzibahGreen · 14/10/2019 00:44

But men would never pretend to be trans to get some sort of advantage...

I know right? How dare I question the integrity of a bunch of convicted felons?

ChipOnMyOvary · 14/10/2019 00:57

The fact remains that these clowns are unable to "call out " felons being given access to babies.

This is why I fear for my grandchildren

SetYourselfOnFire · 14/10/2019 05:50

ChipOnMyOvary
^That they can lock up babies with paedophiles who have raped babies is an abomination.

Imagine that being inoculated against protecting babies from rape^

This literally happened, it's not hyperbole. Even worse: the mothers&children in the pod were supposed to be kept in the dark about the new transfer's brutal pedophiliac rape, but the guard broke protocol and warned them. The people in charge of this policy should go to prison themselves.

NonnyMouse1337 · 14/10/2019 06:32

I seriously hope there will be a day of reckoning soon. The people behind these sort of policies are truly vile. I would donate to as many crowdfunders needed to put them all in jail. Public protests outside their offices. We cannot allow them to slink off saying they knew nothing.
It makes my blood boil to see how expendable the most vulnerable women and children are to this elitest ideology.

LuisDuran · 14/10/2019 15:48

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TemporaryPermanent · 14/10/2019 15:51

What nonsense Luis. I just had a lovely wet walk and got some fresh air, I really recommend it for lifting your mood.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 14/10/2019 15:54

Mmm, someone’s having a tricky day aren’t they?

Still it made me , so there’s that

FlibbertyGiblets · 14/10/2019 15:55

I don't know what to say. Women are not a cancer, goodness me.

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