Gendered Intelligence - advice please!

[Wanderingwomb]

Anybody attended training with gendered intelligence? It is being suggested for an organisation I care about. I am looking at their website and I can't really tell a huge amount. Are there any alternative training organisations? My concerns in this particular instance would be about safeguarding vulnerable children, and whether this group was responsible in their handling of suicide stats, confidentiality, dangerous medication and sexual abuse.

I have a Powerpoint from a session they did if you're interested. I absented myself as a matter of principle so can't talk in detail about it. They're very much in line with Mermaids from what I can tell.

I am not sure you are going to find a trans organisation who allays your concerns. Transgender ideology is a religion. As individuals and as organisations I am pretty sure that as a whole they are honest, educated people whose priority is the care and welfare of trans people. Transgender people have every right to lead fulfilling and productive lives unhindered by prejudice and bullying. But this is on the basis of believing that there is a stand-alone "gendered soul" in every human, which is independent from the body. That is a belief only and it is unsupported by evidence. Any training which acknowledges that this is a belief system that would be OK in my book.

The main problem with it is that training is presented as being neutral, when in fact it carries a political message and aims to change the way organisations operate.

Gendered Intelligence are heavily invested in the blue brain/pink brain premise.

They were behind the science museum exhibit on how to tell if you are a girl or a boy, by your preferences and little tests.

After people called the exhibit risible and damaging, the science museum said:

"However, with an issue of such scientific and cultural importance as this we have decided it is essential that we look again at the exhibit"

And

"Certainly from preliminary work looking at the latest scientific evidence, the ideas presented are now in question."

gendertrender.wordpress.com/2016/09/14/uks-science-museum-forced-to-re-think-transgender-brain-sex-exhibit-after-feminist-complaints/#comments

Everyone who is exposed to that kind of training needs a copy of Cordelia Fine's book Delusions of Gender.

Astraia I would love to see that PowerPoint please?
This is extremely frustrating as there are lots of questions I have but I just can't risk it. Everybody's advice is extremely helpful, keep it coming! Especially if you know anything related to the concerns I stated earlier. Thanks

@thebewilderness simply reading the title I came here to suggest the same book. A must read for all.

Fifi do you mean it aims to push organisations to, for example, allow anyone to use the female toilets? Any other things?
Datun thanks for the science museum info, v useful!

... Ordering Fine book...

Wanderingwomb

Transgender trend has written advice for schools.

Although aimed at children, the equality law is equally applicable to children and adults.

It also highlights the damage of gender and how not conforming to it is a perfectly human behaviour.

We all do it, all the time. It's not a secret. And it's not unusual.

Datun. I think GI have been discrediting Transgender Trend to BACP magazine Therapy Today. Sorry I can't do a link on my phone but there's a thread about it showing a petition against Stephanie Davies Arai, which looks identical in style and layout to the registration forms for GI courses. Bit suspect they do this at the same time as peddling rather expensive training courses.

Wanderingwomb

Yes they have. This censorship and harassment has to stop.

How? I am really surprised they got over 500 therapists to sign the petition. I've been in and out of therapy for years and censorship and pro medication is the opposite of my experience of therapists.

Wanderingwomb

This issue has infuriated me and depressed me in turn, from the beginning.

But now you can add despair to that. Hopefully it's temporary.

Public advocates of women, with power, have sporadically expressed their views.

Journalists, radio hosts, TV broadcasters, etc.

But the attacks are stepping up.

It's a little soul destroying, to be honest.

So in answer to your question, how?

Right now, today, I don't know.

I do know that continuing to talk about it, on here is massively beneficial. Mumsnet has huge power.

And it gets read. So explanations, links, are all crucial.

Hi Jamie

We want to know your views on invoking the Equality Act exemptions which allow for sex segregation.

Our particular concerns are in toilets and changing rooms as many biological women feel sharing with biological males violates their dignity and breaches the concept of consent.

Personally I have no concern about biological females sharing these spaces.

Would you support this sex segregation Jamie?

Hi Jamie,
Does Gendered Intelligence advocate that children should take drugs to halt puberty before puberty starts, during puberty or once they reach the age of consent?
How is this matter addressed in your training?

Many thanks.

Do you talk about gender-non-conforming people who don't believe in gender identity, Jamie, such as butch or MOC lesbians?

Do you ensure the people you train understand that pressuring lesbians to accept sex with someone capable of impregnating them is rape culture?

And a second question (if you have time)?

Do you state in any of your training materials that adults working with children in schools should keep confidentiality about any disclosures relating to gender non conformity? If so, in what context that you would advise this?

Thank you.

Does your guidance suggest that schools and counsellors should use watchful waiting for young people and adolescents with mental health problems who think they might be trans?

If a counsellor were to tell a child that in their view, that child did NOT have a gender identity problem but a school bullying problem, does your guidance suggest that that counsellor be criticised or supported?

Hi Jamie. Your description of your organisation sounds reasonable. Can you please explain why your organisation felt the need to attempt to silence and discredit Stephanie Davies Arai by complaining to Therapy Today magazine about her letter? ICan you understand that that paints your organisation in a somewhat different light to what you just described above? Do you believe there is no room for debate about this issue and if so, why?

Another question Jamie

Where do you stand on women’s concerns regarding safety particularly in light of the data relating to sexual offenders transient?

Also what protections do you think should be put in place for women and children to prevent abuse from opportunistic sexual predators who are not trans entering what have been hitherto “safe spaces” but who cannot be distinguished from genuine transwomen

Somehow I got delusions of gender free on a kindle app; unsure if through amazon prime or not though?