Never thought I'd start a trans thread...

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I came across this and found it very interesting- but not as interesting as the comments below it.

mirandayardley.com/en/what-autogynephilia-is-and-what-is-it-not-a-brief-note/

Yes, Miranda is a hero for getting all this out there so clearly.

This does change the way you see trans behaviourally. We seem to be pandering to a male sex fetish.
I laugh at the man at Credit Suisse who goes to work in a dress once week. Next month Credit Suisse will be introducing BDSM Fridays, bring your dog colars and gimp masks to work

Barking.

Check out Pippa Bunce
www.out-standing.org/heroes/2017-top-50-women/
The FT awards for outstanding women in business
Head of Global Markets Technology Core Engineering Integrations Components
Credit Suisse
Pips took the conscious decision to be ‘out’ at work as gender fluid to embrace and advocate the importance of authenticity as well as to shine a light on the power and diversity of women in the workplace. Multiple aspects of our identity, including gender identity/expression, ethnicity, age, sexual orientation, disability and religion influence our experiences at work. Our sex or gender may be the same, but our identities, our successes and our struggles are different and it is for this reason why Pips is proud to be a female champion in business. She is a member of the European Women’s Network/IT Women’s Council and had many external publications relating to gender equality published. Additionally, she has been integral in providing reverse mentoring to management board members of the firm and is co-lead of the LGBT & Ally program at Credit Suisse where she places much importance on intersectionality and how the voices of all types of women and our allies need to be heard to drive forward gender equality – our differences make us stronger and diversity should be celebrated, not tolerated. Pips is also a regular panellist/speaker on gender equality, and often interviewed by external publications on the topic.

Pippa thinks that women who don't agree with him will never amount to anything.
twitter.com/PippaBunce/status/949597497147691008

AGP or what?

The personal stories from people with AGP and a young trans woman regretting her transition were eye opening, and unusually matter of fact for this subject.

Pippa's Twitter photo shows what part of her feminine side matters most.

Pippa Bunce always makes me think of Marie Antionette dressed up as an unusually frilly peasant.

*Antoinette

When I first started work everyone was really anti women wearing trousers. Including women.
But we kind a wear a type of trousers that suit our body type and are flattering and blend in at work.

I've go no problem with dudes wearing dresses at all but for goodness sake, can't someone design male body type dresses that suit them better than they stuff they wear?

Yes it's a very good piece. Finding out about AGP was a definite penny dropping moment for me.
I've studied gender roles anthropologically and worldwide throughout history there have been instances of a third gender - generally made up of effeminate homosexual - or transsexual.
Autogynophilia is a modern, western phenomenon.
Interestingly I was just dipping into Naomi Wolf's Beauty Myth today, and in her Sex chapter she talks about female sexuality being controlled but specifically being experienced as 'outside in': i.e. experiencing sexuality as imagining being desired rather than desiring.

Aargh, but I don't understand, I thought being genderfluid was avoiding binary distinctions, in which case this person doesn't belong on a list of women anything nor advising anyone on gender issues as they specifically concern women. Why is that not obvious?

Even if we existed only through self-definition ('I'm a woman because I say I am') and not biology, I don't understand how women are being lumped into genderfluidity, except that as the other we're expected to just be whatever we're told we are. It's like the one-drop rule, if you're not male then what does it matter what you call yourself, you're corrupted anyway.

(My comment was in reply to the Pippa Bunce link.)

Good link Pickle AGP was the missing link for me.
I didn't understand that sexual gratification was connected to trans people.
The mainstream line I heard was it not sexual it's the wrong body so the fetish aspect had gone over my head.

Presumably, when he's a man he's a man exactly like other men, and when she's a woman she's a woman exactly like all other women except with added male privilege so she gets to boss us all around. Or something?

I was trying to find something sensible on AGP. So much simply denies it- and I can see why. It's so stereotypically narcissistic, brings new meaning to the phrase 'he really fancies himself'.

But the heart rending comments below....

(My comment was in reply to the Pippa Bunce link.)
You are completely right. Why wasn't he on the top 30 blokes list if he's so cool? How many millions of women has he stepped over to get that award?

What concerns me is the twitter comment he made to Paris Lees,
twitter.com/PippaBunce/status/949597497147691008

He's is telling the world that if you don't agree men are women then you will never amount to anything. Er well that's me Phil, so your opinion of me is that huh?

Clearly he has instigated a zero tolerance policy at Credit Suisse and has to be obeyed. Is that the advice he gives to the Management Board about women, it's his way or no way? What a dickwad.

I thought being genderfluid was avoiding binary distinctions
That would indeed make sense, but in the crazy world of trans identity politics "woman" just means "not man" and is therefore a category open to anyone who feels like jumping on board

He becomes she because of make up, dress and wig.

Fuck off, Bunce. And take your creepy, infantilising hair flower and wank fodder fishnets with you.

For reasons I can't openly state here due to how very outing it would be, I happen to know several actual women working for CS.

Let me assure you that CS is not, generally speaking, quite as accommodating to women's needs.

Unless the 'women' concerned have a cock, it seems!

Do they know this 'woman'?

Not to the best of my knowledge, but I'm not really in a position to ask. They're not personal friends but people I know from professional women's things.

Suffice to say I've heard enough stories about women being passed over for promotion, not being listened to in meetings and, IRONY ALERT, being taken aside for a quiet word about appearance out of that place.

It's outrageous!

Philip Bunce is a part-time transvestite.

Jolly good fun on weekends, but apparently he needs to bring it to the office and win women's awards as well.

Why don't Credit Suisse accommodate furries and cosplayers as well?

That is particularly outrageous, put like that. So he could win an inspirational woman award one week, and a best man in the office award the next. Great.

Yes I think we should recommend they introduce a BDSM day as it's wankphobic not to allow all wanking preferences full display in the office environment.
What was that about harassment?

Fuck off I've got my balls taped to my anus in a pair of Spanx today so I'm in a bad mood.

Fuck off I've got my balls taped to my anus in a pair of Spanx today so I'm in a bad mood.

Omg Mouth Ive just spat a mouthful of my first Dark & Stormy of the evening all over my phone thanks to that gem