Interpreting KS2 Sats

(106 Posts)
Ang69 Tue 10-Jul-18 16:10:31

Just got DD's KS2 Sats results, this is the first time I've dealt with these so unsure what they mean. It says she has achieved standard which is good but can anyone shed any light on the scores? She got 109 in English Grammar, 118 in reading and 110 in maths.

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tinytreefrog Tue 10-Jul-18 16:18:31

She's done well. Over 110 is greater depth I think. Which means she's working at above the expected standard for her age.

TeenTimesTwo Tue 10-Jul-18 16:18:49

Anything over 100 is achieving the standard.
120 is the maximum.
So the reading comprehension score is very good in particular.

Around 75% achieve the standard in any one test, with around 65% achieving the standard in all 3. (very rough % values)

Did school really not explain this?

Ang69 Tue 10-Jul-18 16:29:40

Thanks for the replies. No, we have had no real info at all apart from 100 is the average. I was just confused by the raw score and scaled score and how they were worked out. Very proud of her as she was behind just 18 months ago due to a lot of moves so she has worked hard. Now onto the next one! Thanks again for the explanations.

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TeenTimesTwo Tue 10-Jul-18 16:46:09

(100 isn't the average (neither the mean, median or mode), it is 'The Expected Standard').

Rowgtfc72 Tue 10-Jul-18 19:31:38

Dd got 112 in Spag, 114 in writing and 108 in maths. She only achieved standard not greater depth so not sure how all this works!

Feenie Tue 10-Jul-18 20:24:43

Because the grade 'greater depth' can only be used to report the writing TA - not the tests, which are only AS or NS.

And all these grades - GDS, EXS, HNM, AS, NS, WTS, PKS, etc, are meant to replace levels because they were confusing to parents, apparently. confused

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Twofishfingers Tue 10-Jul-18 20:28:53

Your school should publish the school results that will include the average. It's a good benchmark, but really your DS is doing very well.

SkeletonSkins Tue 10-Jul-18 22:45:50

The official report only reports greater depth for writing, but if your child scored 110 or more it is considered to be greater depth. Some schools will state this in a report, others won’t, so it can cause confusion. But 110+ is greater depth.

Sodastream1000 Wed 11-Jul-18 16:51:12

Does anyone know what percentiles the scaled scores equate to? The scaled score seems pretty meaningless if you can't understand how well the child has done compared to others. I understand 110 is well above the expected standard - but how well above?! DS has scores of 112, 113 and 108. Thanks.

Rowgtfc72 Wed 11-Jul-18 17:53:22

Sent dh into school today. Anything over 110 is greater depth. Some reports record anything over 100 as attaining standard. Some as greater depth. Random as to which report says what apparently. Apparently lots of parents have been in asking.

megletthesecond Wed 11-Jul-18 18:46:32

Does the greater depth score change every year?

SkeletonSkins Wed 11-Jul-18 18:56:19

You always have to get a scaled score of 110 to score ‘greater depth’, but the raw score needed in the test to get this scaled score changes.

Soda not sure on the percentiles. Children with those scores tend to be comfortably working above but not like, insanely high. I’d say the top 10% get 115-120 scores.

megletthesecond Wed 11-Jul-18 19:11:07

Ah, thanks skeleton.

IStillDrinkCava Wed 11-Jul-18 19:21:31

After all the booster groups, which I thought were about boosting their chances of getting Greater Depth, I was a bit surprised to have absolutely nothing in the feedback on whether they'd got that or not. Useful to hear 110 seems to be the benchmark. Thanks.

I'd love to know how the percentiles pan out. It's just nosiness I suppose.

Hellohah Thu 12-Jul-18 15:36:40

Soda I was going to say take a look at the breakdown for 2016 & 2017. But all this tells you is that it depends on the cohort.

For example in 2016 - getting 115 or above in Reading puts you in the top 7%, SPAG in the top 6% and Maths the top 4%.

In 2017 - getting 115 or above in Reading puts you in the top 10%, SPAG in the top 14% and Maths the top 6%.

SPAG obviously the biggest difference over those 2 years.

IStillDrinkCava Thu 12-Jul-18 16:20:21

I thought the whole point of doing the standardised scores was so that it didn't vary between cohorts!! But Hellohah thanks for those stats, that's what I was looking for and couldn't find.

buttybuttybutthole Thu 12-Jul-18 16:39:38

Got my sons today -118 in maths, 116 in spag but 98 in reading! I'm taking it with pinch of salt. As a former english teacher I felt sick at first.

Not branding my very bright summer born 10 year old a failure 😁 because of the big NOT ACHIEVED!!!!

Hellohah Thu 12-Jul-18 22:14:55

No problems Cava.
The breakdown will be available, but I'm not sure until maybe December or the New Year for 2018 results.

2016 & 2017 percentiles online, 2nd document in the list

www.gov.uk/government/statistics/national-curriculum-assessments-key-stage-2-2016-revised

www.gov.uk/government/statistics/national-curriculum-assessments-key-stage-2-2017-revised

Hope the links work 👍

AllPizzasGreatAndSmall Thu 12-Jul-18 23:21:22

After all the booster groups, which I thought were about boosting their chances of getting Greater Depth

If a child needs booster groups (which will teach to the test) to push them to achieve greater depth, then surely the tests are not giving a true reflection of their ability and will result in future targets being set at a level that may not be achievable.

IceBearRocks Fri 13-Jul-18 03:15:00

Damn got 107 SPAG, 110 Reading and 118 Maths.
He's an avid reader and loves maths and facts but needed a scribe due to ASD and broken arm.
Either way we've explained that the tests are for the school!!!!!

Rowgtfc72 Fri 13-Jul-18 08:15:56

Dds school told her Sats were very important as they would level her in her secondary school. A week after Sats she was summoned to sit Cat tests at the new school.

Although dd did very well she knows tests are just a small, although important, snapshot of what she can do. You either "perform" well on the day or not.

Feenie Fri 13-Jul-18 11:03:55

Her school were right - although the decision to share that knowledge with the children is questionable. Her new school can CAT test all they like, but her GCSE targets are now set for the next five years for the school from that snapshot.

whataboutbob Fri 13-Jul-18 14:43:03

This is a very useful thread and thanks to those who have posted on how to interpret the score. DS scored 113 in writing, 114 in in reading and 113 in maths. Does this mean his secondary school will have certain targets in mind for his GCSE grades? And will this affect the way he is taught, even in subtle ways?. Eg expecting a certain amount from him, but maybe no more eg grade 7 but not necessarily a 9? Thank you.

whataboutbob Fri 13-Jul-18 14:51:18

Sorry that should be 113 in SPAG not writing.

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