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Oxbridge applications 2019 (part two).

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Justanothermile Thu 22-Nov-18 08:33:55

New thread, I hope it's okay to start one.

Good luck today for those still waiting for interview news, which includes us.

Congratulations to those already with dates.

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AtiaoftheJulii Thu 22-Nov-18 09:06:15

Morning all x

Just about to buy ds's train ticket to Cambridge. It's an early start /yawn/

Hope good news comes through for everyone soon x

HingleMcCringleberry Thu 22-Nov-18 09:11:37

Justanothermile - thanks for starting the new thread, great work. My face fell slightly when I saw that the last post had been used up, usually someone (the OP, or a kind soul like yourself) will use it to link to the new thread.

I think everyone is savvy enough to find their way here, so it doesn't really matter - although one person DM'd me worrying that the thread had been locked from something they'd written. I've hopefully disabused them of this!

Justanothermile Thu 22-Nov-18 09:15:36

Oh gosh, I confess that was me using the last post - I didn't think to check in truth.

I hope folk find this one, apologies for the confusion.

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HingleMcCringleberry Thu 22-Nov-18 09:35:44

Haha, no worries, you've definitely 'atoned' by setting up the new one!

Good luck while you wait for news! What a nerve-wracking time. Unfortunately, if you do get an invite to interview, the nerves just mount further!

goodbyestranger Thu 22-Nov-18 10:16:38

Justanothermile yes the comparative admissions statistics are interesting, less for the individual subjects than for the fact that (having totted up/ divided/ done percentages etc) for lots of subjects Cambridge has a higher success rate - sometimes very significantly higher - than Oxford, with the exception of Engineering where it's far harder to get a place at Cambridge. I was genuinely surprised at the consistency of the pattern. The percentages minimize a little but if you know that there are 500 extra applicants you have to beat, all of whom are likely to be good - well, that's a lot. I've never seen attention drawn to that before and didn't realize it myself, apart from Medicine. So, good for this year's Cambridge applicants anyhow!

I hope there's good news for the Oxford historians today.

Helpuschoose Thu 22-Nov-18 10:57:17

Goodbyestranger- Were your statistics looking at offers made by Cambridge or ultimate acceptances? The standard Cambridge offer can be a lot higher for many subjects than Oxford’s and I noticed from the statistics online that it looked like quite a few people apparently miss their Cambridge offer on A level results day.

goodbyestranger Thu 22-Nov-18 11:02:17

Acceptances Helpuschoose.

For whoever was asking about Oxford Medicine, DS's invite came direct from the department on the Tues or Wed after BMAT results were released.

goodbyestranger Thu 22-Nov-18 11:15:15

www.undergraduate.study.cam.ac.uk/sites/www.undergraduate.study.cam.ac.uk/files/publications/ug_admissions_statistics_2017_cycle_4.pdf

www.ox.ac.uk/sites/files/oxford/Oxford%202018%20Annual%20Admissions%20Report.pdf

Here are the two documents I used. The Oxford one is a new innovation, very easy to read and very interesting.

goodbyestranger Thu 22-Nov-18 11:24:48

Thus for Cambridge Maths there were 1456 applications, 532 offers and 257 acceptances/ successes. Which computes at 17.7%, whereas the offer rate is 36% and not capable of direct comparison with Oxford.

PantTwizzler Thu 22-Nov-18 11:33:50

DD has just told me that she’s got an interview at Oxford (Classics). I’ve got butterflies on her behalf already...

HingleMcCringleberry Thu 22-Nov-18 11:43:58

PantTwizzler can you remind me if DD has both Greek and Latin? Just curious! I’d also be interested what college they’re applying to, but appreciate if you would rather not disclose that.

Also, that’s awesome news! Well done DD!

goodbyestranger Thu 22-Nov-18 11:44:45

Ah very good news PantTwizzler. Is she applying for the ab initio course or is she doing latin/ greek at school?

Lililili Thu 22-Nov-18 11:54:52

Congratulations PantTwizzler DD

I have read somewhere re Oxford Cambridge applications and acceptances that because, in general, the offer is one grade lower at Oxford, (eg AAA for Oxford History and A*AA for Cambridge History) that it encourages more applications from those who may not be predicted A*s ..... ?

evenstrangerthings Thu 22-Nov-18 12:11:11

Thanks for the new thread @Justanothermile - I had in mind to check earlier but was busy first thing this morning.

D-day for DS for Oxford Maths will be tomorrow or early next week. He's not optimistic, but let's see...

PantTwizzler Thu 22-Nov-18 12:17:59

Thanks, all. She is doing A level Latin but not Greek. I’d rather not mention the college.

Now to try to persuade her to agree to a mock interview...

Lililili Thu 22-Nov-18 13:02:44

I saw on TSR that one applicant, for History I think, had a mock interview at a Cambridge college (not the one she was applying to) I didn’t know that was possible. Has anybody heard of anything like this?

PantTwizzler Thu 22-Nov-18 13:21:08

Wow! I’ve never heard of that. Think DD’s school does some sort of practice but we’d like to organise something ourselves as well.

When he applied, DH had a practice interview with a family friend and found it useful.

HingleMcCringleberry Thu 22-Nov-18 13:37:19

Mock interviews are a funny one. For some people they help, and for some people, they don’t. I’m a don’t person. I mock very, very poorly. That then sends me into a tail spin.

I think if you are in the ‘Don’t’ category, what is useful is to at least try out a few answers on parents or teachers, to articulate some gimme’s like ‘what about the course attracts you?’ so that you aren’t then saying the words out loud for the very first time in an interview. Equally, you don’t want the answers to such questions seem rote.

PantTwizzler great stuff about the Latin. Any inclination to take a module in Greek if she is accepted? Also, if she is applying at Univ, I hope she has a good experience! The undergrads who look after you (called Sea Daddies in Univ, not sure if other colleges have names for them) try hard to make it as comfortable as possible.

Actually, wherever she is applying, I hope she has a good experience!

Coleoptera Thu 22-Nov-18 14:28:52

DT2 was so kind to DT1 about their Cambridge interview this morning but I can tell is really worried whether they'll get an interview at Oxford.

I've just seen on Student Room that someone has been emailed an interview acceptance for the same college and course as DT2 so am now afraid DT2 isn't going to get an interview at all, otherwise I expect they'd have heard today.

I may be pre-empting things but I'm preparing to have to support DT2 with a potential rejection. DT2 is by far the more conscientious one of the twins, has done masses and masses of supercurricular reading, was shortlisted for a History essay competition prize at Oxford a few months ago, is just the much stronger candidate and works so so hard, easily managing 4 A levels and predicted all A*s.

They've been focused on their subject for years and years, whereas DT1 only really decided what to study at the start of this summer. They'd thrive at Oxbridge more than their twin - who of course may flunk the interview.

It's going to be incredibly difficult then if DT2 doesn't get even an interview when their twin has theirs lined up. I have to stop thinking too much about this but I expect they'll hear today or have already heard at school and don't want to contact me.

Am I right to presume that if one person has now heard from the same college for the same college, today, then all candidates will be informed today? I think they do it by email at this college. Would rejected candidates hear after the interviewees have already been informed - in other words, is the later in the day a sign that success is less and less likely?

I am in agony here!

PantTwizzler Thu 22-Nov-18 15:11:25

I feel you Coleoptera.

Justanothermile Thu 22-Nov-18 15:48:33

Well, I have arrived home and there is nothing but Christmas catalogues on the mat....

goodbye those links are great thanks. I'm keen to delve in particular into the Oxford admissions statistics, which will be tomorrow now (panto tonight.... oh no we're aren't......oh yes we are....). It looks clear and easily understandable from my extremely brief flick.

coleoptera, it's a hard one indeed. Might it be worth extolling the virtues of the alternative choices for both? Hate to sound trite, but it's not always fair who gets the opportunity and there's little comfort to gain from this fact. It's normal and possible to be pleased for your sibling and feel disappointed for yourself, I'm sure your DT will be feeling that way. I don't know the process to comment on whether it's fair to assume there's an interview or not I am afraid.

DD had a mock interview on Monday and it was handled well, so I think she gained benefit from it overall.

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goodbyestranger Thu 22-Nov-18 16:01:30

I feel your agony Coleoptera. But it's not a done deal yet. I gather there are always trolls on TSR and this might well be one. Also, check Junk. Fingers firmly crossed for DT2.

Bakeandyarn Thu 22-Nov-18 16:15:29

coleoptera, last year some colleges (not all) posted on their individual college website pages which interviews had been sent out, so you could have a look and see if they’ve done the same this year. We heard exactly one week before the interview date last year (on Monday for interview the following Monday), the wait was agonising, I do feel for you!

ErrolTheDragon Thu 22-Nov-18 16:54:39

I have read somewhere re Oxford Cambridge applications and acceptances that because, in general, the offer is one grade lower at Oxford, (eg AAA for Oxford History and A*AA for Cambridge History) that it encourages more applications from those who may not be predicted A*s ..... ?

There may be some truth in that. In the case of maths, there’s the additional very significant factor of STEP - I’d guess that puts quite a few people off applying to Cambridge, and of course it’s also the main reason for the discrepancy between offers and final acceptances.

In the case of engineering, I believe there is a significant difference between the courses - Oxford’s is called ‘engineering science’. The numbers for the Oxford course are a lot smaller I believe (esp as for Cambridge there’s Gen Eng plus Chem Eng) ... I think it may be a bit niche.

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