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It is a fact universally acknowledged that a woman in her thirties in possession of a ticking biological clock MUST be in want of a baybee.

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ArielThePiraticalMermaid Mon 04-Mar-13 19:52:16

The former thread proved full of sadness and most vexatious disappointments, wherefore we know not sad. Therefore the BESH will be donning their empire dresses and enlisting the assistance of Captain Wentworth and his admirable breeches and Mr Darcy smouldering damply in his transparent white shirt both of whom with their pleasing countenances and sound judgements and enormous fortunes, in short both of whom are everything a young man ought to be in the expectation that happier times may be ahead for the BESH.

FrankellyMyDearIDontGiveADamn Tue 05-Mar-13 17:45:47

Hullo (isn't that what they used to say?!) my dearest BESH. My sincerest apologies for not informing you of the results of my visit to the good doctor this morning.

<resumes normal self>

Follies have gone into overdrive again! I have 2 of 12mm and 1 of 11mm, plus 3 of 10mm on my right. Lefty is not quite so active, I have 1 of 11mm and 2 just under 10mm. Apparently my endometrium is "beautiful" and "women would pay good money" for similar according to the nurse grin

So the upshot is that I've had to cut my dosage and am going back on Thursday morning to be checked again. They will keep me going with 3 over 13mm but anymore than that and they will stop the cycle. My right ovary is definitely dominant, both of my previous OI cycles resulted in right side ovulation.

In other news, the nurse said I can decide if I want to continue with another 3 OI cycles. I was under the impression that I had to go straight to IVF, but she said they are not in any hurry for that due to my age and the fact that we don't have any serious underlying issues. There is a 3-month waiting list for IVF at the moment anyway, so I figure we may as well carry on. She also said that if we did go down the IVF route I should produce plenty of eggs due to my response to the lower dose drugs in the OI treatment.

<turns to the side so everyone can admire her endometrium>

FrankellyMyDearIDontGiveADamn Tue 05-Mar-13 17:47:31

X-posts with you there Bugs, sounds like a plan. How do you feel about it all?

JustplainoldBuggerlugs Tue 05-Mar-13 17:47:38

Can I ask - does anyone know what I can do / stop doing to improve the quality of my eggs? The Dr thinks my mc may be due to poor quality embryo's.

How do i improve this?

JustplainoldBuggerlugs Tue 05-Mar-13 17:49:18

Nice lining Frank - I feel a bit 'weird' really. I'm not sure if they're throwing too much science at me and i've simply been unlucky. The Dr knows best I supose.

EuroShaggleton Tue 05-Mar-13 17:56:11

Bugs, other than the usual lifestyle stuff (no drinking & smoking, etc), I'm not sure there is much you can do. If you read around there are some supplements that are supposed to help, but nothing seems to be definitive. They are worth a go though, I guess.

Remember spaff plays a huge role in embryo quality too. Our clinic told us that it is the swimmers that carry the embryo forward after day 3 and there are loads of studies about sperm DNA fragmentation and its role in miscarriage. After Thursday, if this goes the way I expect, I will be talking to KFZK about the frag test. Anecdotally, a friend of mine had an mc with her ex - they tried for ages, one pregnancy, ended in mc. He had a problem with alcohol and was far from clean living, but the drs focussed on her
as she had PCOS. With a new partner she got pg first month of trying with her first and second with her second (chem preg first month that time), so that does suggest that it was not an egg problem with her first husband. I'm not suggesting Mr Bugs is in the drinking league of her ex, but that a lot of people focus on the woman when an embryo is half her DNA and half his.

Verily this is a very un-Austen like post. I shall pause for a moment to admire Miss Frankel's wonderous endometrium and good egg growing skills.

JustplainoldBuggerlugs Tue 05-Mar-13 17:57:28

Interesting euro, interesting.

Northey Tue 05-Mar-13 17:58:50

On the ivf fred we iz all about the high protein for good quality eggs, bugs.

missfrankel, my feelings will not be repressed. You must allow me to say how ardently I admire your endometrium.

EuroShaggleton Tue 05-Mar-13 18:01:19

Heh, love it norf.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Tue 05-Mar-13 18:04:55

Verily my ladies, you have been much occupied with dashing young doctors, needlework and shed-copulations shock. This evening I have been very diverted in the perusal of your epistles. Sadly my own contribution to this flowing conversation will have to be short as I shall be taking a turn around the park in a pack of wanton women wearing unflattering garments. However I must add my delight at the handsomest endometrium that ever was seen, well done lady Frankel. I was most perturbed to notice the waste of candle sticks that donkey and the northerly lady have produced by unnecessary worrying, I sincerely hope the mood and hysteria will improve.

YAY for the follies frank. Sorry bugs I know nothing about egg quality! Lady Merkin you make me laugh!!

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Tue 05-Mar-13 18:05:44

grin norf

"and how bloody annoying your family is"<crude paraphrasing>

Northey Tue 05-Mar-13 18:28:53

Don't laugh. I just poafed. On day 3 of a very heavy droid. Negative, obviously. Why?

FrankellyMyDearIDontGiveADamn Tue 05-Mar-13 20:44:08

I won't laugh Norf, I went to today's appointment half-hoping they'd do the scan and say "whoopsadaisy there's something in here!" <deluded>

Northey Tue 05-Mar-13 21:47:51

I think that every scan I go to, frank .

Have just had a grim evening out. I heartily wish I'd never gone. Every second sentence <exageration> seemed to be about people having babies or people trying to have babies or people miscarrying babies. Just fuck off, all of you.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Tue 05-Mar-13 22:27:52

Bah to the lot of them.

I wonder how one would go about starting to get on with the rest of one's life? Giving up hoping. And being ok with that. I think I'd have to use some kind of contraception, so you get off the endless monthly merry-go-round. Just thinking about it.

Northey Tue 05-Mar-13 22:32:10

Like some kind of eternal Mary Bennett.

How are you this evening, rie?

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Tue 05-Mar-13 22:41:49

I was feeling dreadfully glum, but then you said "eternal Mary Bennett" and I laughed.

Honestly, some women go on the pill to reduce boob pain??? shock It's making me grumpy in the extreme.

Northey Tue 05-Mar-13 22:49:52

I am also dreadfully glum. And sad and lonely. And nothing is cheering me up.

Just the thought of starting all over again. Again!

Northey Tue 05-Mar-13 22:50:28

How long till you can stop the pill?

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Tue 05-Mar-13 22:53:37

24th March. Then a few days off while apparently I should have a droid. Then stabbing.

I'm trying not to sound moany. Ok, well I'm not trying that hard. Sorry.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Tue 05-Mar-13 22:55:47

Sorry, didn't see your post there Norf. Sigh. If only we were RL friends, close by and stuff. We could drink wine, eat nachos and watch back to back episodes of p&p followed by s&s followed by Four Weddings.

Northey Tue 05-Mar-13 23:00:28

I know. We could take it in turns with the cat.

I am also moany tonight, so don't worry about it.

EuroShaggleton Tue 05-Mar-13 23:01:03

Rie I was offered the Pill when I went to see a consultant about extreme PMT, including mega boob pain, a few years ago. I declined, took evening primrose and B vits and it improved massively.

Norf I'm with you re: starting again. <Sigh>

I've just had a surprisingly lovely evening out. It was a work networky thing, and I was somewhat lacking in enthusiasm but made myself go rather than spend another evening at home googling shyte about fertility and miscarriages. It was actually great. We were being taught to make sushi. Then got to eat our creations. It was very absorbing. When I left I realised I hadn't thought about my womble once in at least a couple of hours. Which was nice.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Tue 05-Mar-13 23:05:09

Glad you had a lovely evening Euro.

I trust you wore you most becoming bonnet?

Northey Tue 05-Mar-13 23:05:39

I'm glad you had a nice time, euro. Try not to think of your womble at all. I'm sure we will both feel better in the morning.

EuroShaggleton Tue 05-Mar-13 23:12:08

Rie I'm hat person, so rest assured, a bonnet is worn on a daily basis mainly to stop my hair going frizzy, which it does at the merest hint of any precipitation.

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