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To think we could just collate all the teacher/teaching related information here, and have done with it?

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SachaStark Wed 29-Apr-20 12:47:25

Just to save time, shall we just have a thread here, where our teaching colleagues can collate all the answers to the questions about teachers and schools, to save having to repeat the same stuff again and again?

1. Why aren’t the teachers working?

They are working.

2. What are the teachers doing all day?

A myriad of things. Including, but not limited to: gathering evidence to get qualification data for Year 11 and Year 13, planning lessons that can be taught remotely, creating resources, marking work, checking on vulnerable children, completing safeguarding referrals, writing school reports, in school minding key worker children, writing new schemes of work and policies for the COVID-19 world, delivering free school meals to students...

3. Why aren’t the teachers doing online video lessons?

Some are. Most (the correct decision, IMHO) are not doing this, following union guidance. This is due to unsafe platforms, such as Zoom, the inappropriateness of it for some ages/classes, and due to safeguarding reasons.

4. What safeguarding reasons could there possibly be for not doing online video lessons?

So, so many, sadly. Including, but not limited to: the vulnerability of teachers’ images or voices being used to create online memes (at best) or pornographic material (at worst) by downloading and manipulating the clips, protections of both staff and students who may be hiding from dangerous individuals known to them, the possibility that abuse may happen live online in front of other children, the possibility that some children may appear on camera either undressed or performing indecent acts...

5. Why aren’t the teachers in school actually teaching the key worker children?

We’ve been told not to teach key worker children in school, we are only child minders at present. This is due to the possibility of unfairness if we are teaching some children and not others, and also because it is impossible to plan for and execute when you are trying to maintain social distancing, and also have no idea what year groups you will have in each day.

6. What’s happening with the school curriculum?

It’s been suspended.

7. When are the schools going back?

Literally, NONE OF US KNOW. It doesn’t matter what your school has said or not said, or what your neighbour’s Aunt Gertrude has said. None of us know anything about when the schools are going back.

8. Why can’t they summer holidays be cancelled, and the kids go back to school then?

Because the teachers and students are technically working right now. The children will need their summer holidays, and the staff will need them, too.

9. But other industries have had their holidays cancelled, so why can’t teachers have theirs cancelled?

It’s more complicated than it is in other industries. Teachers aren’t paid for their holidays, and they also can’t take them as time off at a later date. The government would have to pay six weeks’ extra pay to all teachers, which I don’t reckon they’ve got the spare cash to do.

10. Why can’t teachers just work it unpaid?

Because we are not bloody saints, and we aren’t very well paid in the first place.

11. Why are the teachers still receiving a full salary?

Because they’re still working full-time, see above, points 1 and 2.

12. But why isn’t MY child’s teacher doing X, Y or Z?

We have absolutely no idea. Why don’t you contact the school in question? Maybe they are, and you haven’t seen it yet? Maybe they’re not, and they’ve actually absconded to Hawaii? Maybe they’re just drinking gin all day? Who can tell, I certainly can’t...

13. What are the daffodils on posts about teachers/teaching for?

It was decided in a thread on The Staffroom that it would be far more productive to give each other flowers on threads clearly guilty of teacher bashing, since many people’s mental health and well-being is at a real low at the moment, and many hard-working teachers are genuinely upset by these posts.

14. Is it really teacher bashing, though? I’m so bored of hearing this.

It is, because these threads generally rely on generalisations regarding an entire profession, and are simply an excuse to “have a go”, rather than doing the more productive thing and contacting their child’s school.

15. But don’t teachers think they have the hardest job in the world? They’re always moaning and being so defensive!

Literally none of us have ever said that we have the hardest job in the world. I don’t know who does. NHS staff at the moment, for sure. Other key workers still having to carry on in difficult conditions, absolutely. But we definitely are facing some very difficult tasks in our jobs right now, that we’ve had no time to prepare for, in an unprecedented situation. Exactly the same as most other lines of work are having to do. And we have to defend ourselves, because SOME posters on here do love a pile-on when it comes to teaching.

16. Would you like a glass of wine?

Fuck yes, most of the time, actually. Care to join me?

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Appuskidu Wed 29-Apr-20 12:51:33

Brilliant post

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fuckweasel Wed 29-Apr-20 12:53:55

Great post. Thank you.

Yes to number 16, but unfortunately due to number 2 it will have to be very much later in the day. daffodil

Vans12 Wed 29-Apr-20 12:55:27

winedaffodil

ktjb39 Wed 29-Apr-20 12:59:50

I love this post! daffodil

piefacedClique Wed 29-Apr-20 13:02:15

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Buildalegohouse Wed 29-Apr-20 13:09:27

Amazing. Very comprehensive and I agree with all of the above.

dontlikebeards Wed 29-Apr-20 13:09:38

Love this (I am not a teacher), I think teachers are currently doing a great job and now I am trying to teach my 3 DC, I have even more respect for them in normal times.

greathat Wed 29-Apr-20 13:10:15

Spot on. Now can we just keep this up the top and get rid of the hundreds of others

charliesweb Wed 29-Apr-20 13:15:08

Everyone with a child in the education system needs to read this.

The parents at my school are really supportive and we've had some lovely messages thanking us.

LightHeartedOnly Wed 29-Apr-20 13:16:09

Bloody love this post! Very clear!

flumposie Wed 29-Apr-20 13:30:16

This is fantastic. Covers absolutely everything we have had to explain countless times. Thank you .flowerswinesmile

BlessYourCottonSocks Wed 29-Apr-20 13:34:59

Thank you. I wish people would just read this. Some posters are just utterly vile and it's adding to the stress of trying to do my job.

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Mistressiggi Wed 29-Apr-20 13:38:01

I am saving this to link to when required!
Many thanks smile

applesauce1 Wed 29-Apr-20 13:44:43

Fantastic post. Thank you daffodil

HistoryQ Wed 29-Apr-20 13:55:27

Love this post. I'm a teacher in Ireland and we face similar repetitive questions and teacher bashing.

Rainbows9 Wed 29-Apr-20 14:05:10

Thank you for this OP. I've not posted before and I'm sick of having to defend my job. You've encapsulated my feelings perfectly.

puffinandkoala Wed 29-Apr-20 14:14:23

Love no 12!

Snuggles81 Wed 29-Apr-20 14:18:34

15 years in a teaching and the biggest lesson I have learnt was that we will never ever be respected for the job that we do. Whether in the classroom or outside of the class. These forums prove that. At a time when we should be pulling together, people are still unhappy yet again with schools

There will also be people out there that think we do a shit job and they could do far better.

I do my job for the children, I hate not being in that classroom with my 30 children. But as with every single teacher in this country/world I am trying my best to do what I can for the children as they are at home and in a time of uncertainty

For those key worker children in school I may not be teaching them the curriculum but I am teaching them life skills, how to plant and grow flowers and vegetables, how to focus on and have fun in a time when they face uncertainty, how to be resilient, appreciate the small things and most of all keep them safe.

DoloresOnTheDottedLine Wed 29-Apr-20 14:32:13

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LolaSmiles Wed 29-Apr-20 14:41:35

I love this post.
wineflowers

Ispini Wed 29-Apr-20 14:44:05

OP that is one hell of a fantastic post, well done you have covered all basis. Now I do hope the posters who make teachers feel crap will take the time to read it. 💐💐💐

HandfulofDust Wed 29-Apr-20 14:45:28

@SachaStark

The thing is this isn't actually true in general. My sister in law is a teacher and isn't working. She goes in once every two weeks and sometimes it's cancelled as there are only a few who are using the provision). She teaches Y1 normally (working outrageously hard so I don't begrudge her the time off for a second). Her school isn't doing much home learning - even for the older years so she just sends a few sheets off at the beginning of the week and that's it. It wasn't her decision - just what the school decided. But it's definitely not true to say all teachers are working flat out.

spanieleyes Wed 29-Apr-20 14:50:11

Actually, in general it is true!
It might not be true that ALL teachers are working flat out but the rest are making up for it!

RubyJack Wed 29-Apr-20 14:52:01

Handful of dust
Just because your sister in law isn't providing home learning it doesn't mean what the OP says isn't true in general.
Many schools, most in my area, are providing a LOT more than that. Teachers are available during normal school hours to liaise with parents and students too.
I am surprised they are being allowed to do so little.

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