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Donor consent law is being changed...

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flirtygirl Sat 16-Mar-19 10:39:39

Aibu to have expected more information before they changes the law, did they do a consultation? I feel miffed that it is now going to be deemed consent and you have to opt out.

But what if the system is down or the opt out which is digital and online, did not get stored properly? What about when you move and change address? Do you have to tell every medical practitioner manually as well?

There is no info it seems on what this will mean. If you have info or any helpful links please let me know, thanks

FilthyforFirth Sat 16-Mar-19 10:41:28

Why? You know about it and if you dont want to you can opt out. It is 100% the right policy and it should have been introduced a long time ago. It will save so many lives.

flirtygirl Sat 16-Mar-19 10:45:07

I only heard about it this morning, even if people feel it's the right policy, why is the news and info not being put out there and why was it not put out there before?

Wheres the info on what time limits they can wait, if they can't find a person family before they take organs? Where the guidelines?

MsVestibule Sat 16-Mar-19 10:45:36

www.organdonation.nhs.uk/about-donation/how-the-law-is-changing/english-organ-donation-law/

If I've read it correctly, your family can still opt out but they will be encouraged to honour your wishes. I think it's a great idea.

flirtygirl Sat 16-Mar-19 10:45:59

Policies and law changes should be communicated effectively. How will people know to opt out, if even the info on the NHS website is out of date??

formerbabe Sat 16-Mar-19 10:46:08

You know about it and if you dont want to you can opt out

I didn't know about it actually.

I will be opting out.

Fuck them...is nothing sacred anymore?

MoreSlidingDoors Sat 16-Mar-19 10:46:29

Yes, there was a consultation.

www.gov.uk/government/consultations/introducing-opt-out-consent-for-organ-and-tissue-donation-in-england/consultation-on-introducing-opt-out-consent-for-organ-and-tissue-donation-in-england

MoreSlidingDoors Sat 16-Mar-19 10:47:44

I will be opting out.

Fuck them...is nothing sacred anymore?

Then I hope nobody you love ever needs a transplant.

flirtygirl Sat 16-Mar-19 10:48:05

The link says the opt out currently applies in Wales or am I reading it wrong, it also says the law changes in April 2020 but some people have said it changed this week. I was sent a WhatsApp this morning saying it was in the news yesterday and on this morning that it changes this week?

Does anyone have a definitive link? When does the change come into effect?

CostanzaG Sat 16-Mar-19 10:48:22

I 100% welcome this law. I cannot comprehend why anyone would want to opt out.
When I die they can take anything and everything if it will save someone's life.

MoreSlidingDoors Sat 16-Mar-19 10:48:35

We’ve had the system live in Wales and Scotland for years. No drama.

You don’t need your organs when you’ve gone. Why not let someone else have them if they can be used?

formerbabe Sat 16-Mar-19 10:49:15

Then I hope nobody you love ever needs a transplant

Totally irrelevant.

I am pro organ donation.

MoreSlidingDoors Sat 16-Mar-19 10:49:31

Is your google broken, OP?

www.organdonation.nhs.uk/about-donation/how-the-law-is-changing/english-organ-donation-law/

Prequelle Sat 16-Mar-19 10:49:47

I believe anyone who opts out shouldn't be allowed an organ.

If you're not willing to contribute then you shouldn't get to benefit.

HaveACupOfCoffee Sat 16-Mar-19 10:49:52

I think it’s a great idea and a step in the right direction. I also think that anyone who has opted out shouldn’t be eligible to be a receiver of donated tissue and organs if god forbid they needed them

GreenShadow Sat 16-Mar-19 10:50:10

This has been discussed in the media for several months.
About time it was introduced in England.

flirtygirl Sat 16-Mar-19 10:50:14

I have had loved ones needing a transplant, my cousin waited years for a kidney and in the end my auntie gave her one, which has shortened my aunties life by 10 years.

It is sad but it's a fact of life that people get sick and they sometimes die.

It's a personal decision and I don't think deemed consent is the way to go.

MoreSlidingDoors Sat 16-Mar-19 10:50:15

I am pro organ donation.

Why on Earth would you opt out then?

HaveACupOfCoffee Sat 16-Mar-19 10:50:41

Cross post with pp

ISpeakJive Sat 16-Mar-19 10:50:45

*
I didn't know about it actually.

I will be opting out.

Fuck them...is nothing sacred anymore*

Bet you'd happily take someone's heart if you needed it though, right???

Prequelle Sat 16-Mar-19 10:51:18

^Totally irrelevant.

I am pro organ donation^
Ah yes very pro considering you're going to opt out. Don't you mean pro other-people-donating, or have I misunderstood your point?

FuckYouChrisAndThatHorse Sat 16-Mar-19 10:51:25

The law has been “opt out” in Wales for ages. It’s really not a problem. You want to opt out, you opt out. Your family don’t want it to happen after your death, it doesn’t happen. There are no body snatchers involved and it saves lives.

Darkbaptism Sat 16-Mar-19 10:51:30

I heard about this a while ago, probably because I’m a member of a few kidney groups (due to my sons condition) so this is very important to some people.

ISpeakJive Sat 16-Mar-19 10:51:33

Bold fail

SpotlessMind Sat 16-Mar-19 10:51:35

Why are you miffed? There will be a national register and your next of kin will also be consulted if you have not indicated a preference. There will be plenty of opportunity to state a wish not to donate if that is your preference.

I expect they will have contingencies about what would happen in the event of tech failure, I expect this would not involve just going ahead anyway. They are already operating a soft opt out system in Wales so have experience to draw upon - more info here: www.bma.org.uk/collective-voice/policy-and-research/ethics/organ-donation

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