Donor consent law is being changed...

[flirtygirl]

Aibu to have expected more information before they changes the law, did they do a consultation? I feel miffed that it is now going to be deemed consent and you have to opt out.

But what if the system is down or the opt out which is digital and online, did not get stored properly? What about when you move and change address? Do you have to tell every medical practitioner manually as well?

There is no info it seems on what this will mean. If you have info or any helpful links please let me know, thanks

Do you not read or watch the news? This has been talked about on the news for quite a while now, lots of notice and info. I don't see why anyone in their right mind would want to opt out...

No I read through the link, there are inconsistencies about the date and I was not aware that a consultation was done, so thanks for the info.

I would not receive or give an organ haveacupofcoffee

Don't see the problem is losing your organs after you die. You have no need for them, someone else might. They can harvest whatever they want from me, and my family knows this.

Fuck them? Do you mean...people who are close to death and waiting for something you don't need any more?

What a fucking attitude. I seriously hope you would decline an organ should you ever need one.

I agree with those saying if you choose to opt out you shouldn’t receive an organ, obviously that doesn’t include people who aren’t eligible to donate.

What is unethical about a system that allows you to opt out? No-one is forcing anyone.

Every single day assumptions are made during healthcare that would go against the idea of informed autonomy but are done to benefit people. Resuscitation is an opt-out system, people don't kick off about that though funnily enough.

People allowing their live saving organs to rot in some pathetic attempt to "stick it to the man!" are vile.

Why would you be miffed? It's a fantastic idea. I cannot understand why anyone would not want their organs donated.

Always a lot of thick comments on these threads...it's all about saving lives huns.

It's bullshit. It's a scary erosion of rights. It's having to reclaim our bodies back from the state. Terrifying.

There are no inconsistencies about the date, @flirtygirl. Read it again.

I think it's the correct approach, I'm surprised that people would opt out.
I'm even more surprised that someone would turn down a lifesaving operation.
What an odd decision to make, although I imagine that it's currently hypothetically and you may change your mind when faced with a real world decision.

I've opted out.

Because I intend to donate my body to medical science (and my brain to the Parkinson's brain bank).

I absolutely do not agree with opt-out. Organ donation should be a gift, freely given, not taken.

Nor do I agree with "if you won't donate you can't receive". We do NOT live in a country where access to healthcare is based on perceived worthiness or how much you contribute, and I for one am very glad of that fact. If you want a multi-tiered health system where we only treat the most worthy and deserving then I guess you could move to America perhaps.

Well formerbabe I hope you or anyone you know never needs an organ..... because obviously 'medical ethics' are obviously more important than lives.

This doesn't contravene medical ethics - which happen to be the most thorough and comprehensive codes of ethics out there.

i would not receive or give an organ

Bullshit. When you're slowly drowning because your own lungs are failing, when every breath is like breathing through a straw in a stuffy box, you would soon change your tune

What about people with mental incapacity?

What about homeless people with no access or ability to opt out?

Can't believe people are only just hearing about this now it's been discussed for ages.

I'm so so glad they are changing to this system. Fantastic news!

it's all about saving lives huns

Well the kidney that was donated to my grandma did save a life and allowed her to live an additional 20 years and meet her great grandchildren so that is a pretty dickish thing to say tbh.

I still think it is bad that families can override the wishes of the organ donor and refuse consent.

It is my body and if something happens to me, I want them to take absolutely everything which could be useful to someone.

If my DH or other overruled that, it would be a massive betrayal IMO.

On the other hand, DH knows that unless he wants everything donated, he needs to name someone else as his next of kin.

Well formerbabe I hope you or anyone you know never needs an organ..... because obviously 'medical ethics' are obviously more important than lives

Bless...you still don't understand the words I'm writing.

I'm pro organ donation.

I'm not necessarily pro organ donation at all costs

Hth

formerbabe they're in an excused group that are automatically opted out.
Seriously people, how about taking 2 seconds to actually research it before speaking?

Why would you rather your organs rot than give them to save lives?

Excluded*

If it's all about number of lives saved them why not kill one prisoner serving life...

One dead but potentially 6 lives saved by

2 kidneys
1 liver
1 heart
2 lungs

Good idea right?

Oh formerbabe I understand you perfectly... even when I've waded through the patronising bullshit

Hth

I have had loved ones needing a transplant, my cousin waited years for a kidney and in the end my auntie gave her one, which has shortened my aunties life by 10 years.

How has it shortened her life? I only have 1 kidney and have a normal life expectancy

I think it's not as easy as it's made out to be... organ donation / harvesting may enter a very dark time with this opt out rule.