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Tonight’s Brexit Vote, they don’t want a referendum?

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Thadeus Tue 12-Mar-19 19:44:41

Am I the only one surprised to hear that when it was put that there could be a second referendum the shouts of no overwhelmingly outweighed the yes’?

marvellousnightforamooncup Tue 12-Mar-19 19:46:19

How else are we going to get out of this mess. Thankfully my MP wants the country to have another vote.

Bookridden Tue 12-Mar-19 19:48:04

I think there is fear about what having a second referendum could do to our democracy and political system. I think the worry is that many people who voted for Brexit would feel betrayed, and these feelings could tip into something serious; even civil unrest perhaps.

Boobiliboobiliboo Tue 12-Mar-19 19:49:39

I think the worry is that many people who voted for Brexit would feel betrayed, and these feelings could tip into something serious; even civil unrest perhaps.

They aren’t afraid about those who voted to remain feeling betrayed?

Bookridden Tue 12-Mar-19 19:56:37

Well, yes, but I think the nature of our democratic decision means we have to honour the outcome of elections. Otherwise surely the whole system would collapse?

Boobiliboobiliboo Tue 12-Mar-19 19:57:38

It wasn’t an election.

It was less legally binding than the X factor vote FFS

Nacknick Tue 12-Mar-19 19:58:22

It wasn't an election....

Boobiliboobiliboo Tue 12-Mar-19 19:58:41

And we don’t have direct democracy. We elect representatives to act in our best interests. No matter how much constituents say they want to be shot in the face, MPs aren’t duty bound to vote for it.

Bookridden Tue 12-Mar-19 20:02:03

I think that the public would still expect the result to be honoured. It's a strange situation as referendums are so unusual, but I think that the fact it isn't legally binding/advisory-only isn't how many will interpret it; hence the risk to our parliamentary system I guess.

thewinkingprawn Tue 12-Mar-19 20:02:42

I know the whole thing isn’t at all amusing but less legally binding than an X factor vote made me laugh! I think a second referendum would not bring about civil unrest - the first shit show certainly hasn’t. And it should.

Janleverton Tue 12-Mar-19 20:03:23

I heard massive cheers for ref and some boos after the cheers - I’m sure that’s what I heard.

ThatssomebadhatHarry Tue 12-Mar-19 20:04:28

Democracy is voting every few year to check you are still happy. Leavers are worried that the majority of this country now want to remain. They are using typical bully boy tactics to get what they want.

Boobiliboobiliboo Tue 12-Mar-19 20:06:00

I think that the public would still expect the result to be honoured. It's a strange situation as referendums are so unusual, but I think that the fact it isn't legally binding/advisory-only isn't how many will interpret it; hence the risk to our parliamentary system I guess.

I don’t really give a shit about folks of below average intelligence not understanding how their own country works, but I do when it impacts on my daughter’s future.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer Tue 12-Mar-19 20:06:44

I think the worry is that many people who voted for Brexit would feel betrayed, and these feelings could tip into something serious; even civil unrest perhaps

My dad said he would go on a march

Not in london you understand cos its a bit far and costs a lot

But to the nearest city

I love my dad grin terribly british

Boobiliboobiliboo Tue 12-Mar-19 20:07:45

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brexit-voters-are-less-bright-than-remainers-7nk8s3272?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3pAPPyC-12PCaQmPapN_C3HDzmRMZuf8oFp8k-5sI3pRVCSx28lY1fF90#Echobox=1552210229

PetuniaPetunia Tue 12-Mar-19 20:08:29

What bully boy tactics ate they using?

Songsofexperience Tue 12-Mar-19 20:15:48

many people who voted for Brexit would feel betrayed

How about those who didn't? And have been ignored? Are they not feeling betrayed? Especially if the other plan is utter catastrophe?

Songsofexperience Tue 12-Mar-19 20:18:10

If there was another ref it should certainly be legally binding, even if no deal is an option and wins.

SneakyGremlins Tue 12-Mar-19 20:18:36

It was less legally binding than the X factor vote FFS

grin

WrongKindOfFace Tue 12-Mar-19 20:19:31

*My dad said he would go on a march*

*Not in london you understand cos its a bit far and costs a lot*

*But to the nearest city*

To be fair, even Nigel Farage can’t be arsed to show up for his own march, he’s just doing the beginning and the end, apparently. Marching is clearly hard work.

I fucking hate brexit. No deal will be horrible. I see people every day who are barely managing now, no deal will devastate them.

Figmentofmyimagination Tue 12-Mar-19 20:21:21

I think they are probably afraid the whole social media dark web nastiness will start spiralling again and people will vote to leave again and then we really would be well and truly f**ked. That’s the only reason why I don’t want a second referendum. Give me a ‘rule-taking Norway-suck it up’ option over that any day.

Tbh, once we are back to our normal lives and have forgotten this period of temporary insanity, I doubt whether many people would even notice that we have less ‘control’ over our laws thanks to the Norway option than we used to. It’s not as if our MEPs actually voted very often. We can still hang around in the corridor.

User12879923378 Tue 12-Mar-19 20:22:14

I don't understand why people say it's undemocratic to have another referendum nearly 3 years after the result.

We normally have a general election every 4-5 years, so obviously we don't work on the basis that it's undemocratic to check that everyone in the country still wants the same people in power as they did last time we asked. And Theresa May called a general election just two years after we'd had one. And if she'd lost the confidence vote a few months ago there'd have been another general election taking place another 2 years after the last one. I'm sorry, but this REFERENDUM MUST NEVER BE REVISITED stuff is just rubbish.

longwayoff Tue 12-Mar-19 20:25:33

It wasn't an election. If it had been, given the amount of dirty dealing by Leave, the result would have been declared invalid and charges would be pending. I was unaware that democracy is maintained by one side threatening civil unrest if their demands aren't met. I think that goes by. a very different name.

Thesearmsofmine Tue 12-Mar-19 20:26:22

I think some are happy enough to go out with a no deal, I have seen plenty of people thinking that it’s a great idea.

I think there is the worry there will be unrest if there is another referendum. I think if remain one then certain far right groups would have a field day.

Imissgmichael Tue 12-Mar-19 20:26:35

Boobiliboobiliboo-

“I don’t really give a shit about folks of below average intelligence not understanding how their own country works, but I do when it impacts on my daughter’s future”

Is there any need for your type of bigotry. You know the type that thinks all leave voters aren’t bright.

Well right back at you. My sons doing ok, is your daughter failing. Bless.

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