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"After all that kissing arse at the Vatican, in Jerusalem and Saudi Arabia, I'm all touched out" says exhausted POTUS. Trump continued.

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illegitimateMortificadospawn Wed 24-May-17 23:05:34

In haste, I will post the old thread shortly.

illegitimateMortificadospawn Wed 24-May-17 23:07:34

Here it is: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2933664-Match-your-outfit-with-the-drapes-and-no-one-will-see-you-are-here

GingerIvy Wed 24-May-17 23:10:48

CNN Politics‏Verified account @CNNPolitics 1m1 minute ago
AG Jeff Sessions did not disclose Russia meetings in a security clearance form, DOJ says cnn.it/2qll59s snpy.tv/2qlyCxz

GingerIvy Wed 24-May-17 23:11:19

Thank you for the new thread Mort

AndHoldTheBun Wed 24-May-17 23:13:23

Thanks for the new thread.
The pope meets trump...
https://www.facebook.com/PokeHQ/posts/1645039528869667

SanFranBear Wed 24-May-17 23:13:34

Great thread title grin

illegitimateMortificadospawn Wed 24-May-17 23:13:57

No problem. I could see we were only 8 posts from oblivion on the old one, so I thought I might as well start one.

HelsinkiLights Wed 24-May-17 23:15:24

And a thank you from me too Mort

GingerIvy Wed 24-May-17 23:16:44

MSNBC‏Verified account @MSNBC 26m26 minutes ago
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Thousands march against President Trump in Brussels: "He is not welcome here" on.msnbc.com/2qd7LIZ

RedToothBrush Wed 24-May-17 23:18:03

mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/24/us/politics/russia-trump-manafort-flynn.html?_r=0&referer=https://t.co/SKObBfqrnr
Top Russian Officials Discussed How to Influence Trump Aides Last Summer​

The conversations focused on Paul Manafort, the Trump campaign chairman at the time, and Michael T. Flynn, a retired general who was advising Mr. Trump, the officials said. Both men had indirect ties to Russian officials, who appeared confident that each could be used to help shape Mr. Trump’s opinions on Russia.

Sounds like there's tapes...

Re Manchester leaks, some theories:

Douglas Livingston @doogliv
Why are your spooks leaking all the intelligence? Bit of a breach of trust isn't it?

John Schlinder @ 20 comittee
It's not spooks who are doing the leaking -- it's the White House.

Several suggestions why they would do this: 1) to undermine relationship with UK/EU 2) because terrorist attacks in Europe suit their political agenda and they don't want to solve problems 3) it's part of the war with the intelligence community and they want to undermine it (with a view to replacing / getting rid of at some point in the future) message being the more you leak, the more we leak.

Also seen it suggested it's a single rogue agent looking to establish credentials and contacts to get a book deal after leaving the service. Trumps out of town and there is no boss so hey let's run riot. Personally I really don't buy this.

My initial thought was it was the IC leaking to undermine Trump but I'm not sure they would do that. They want to protect the us and they know that relies on international cooperation and support. Leaks cost lives. American ones. It makes no sense even though they want to undermine Trump.

So that does take us firmly back to the White House. Which begs a few questions. We know Trump is leaking. It's been passed off as innocent. But it's unlikely to be. The second thing here is this sure as hell isn't coming direct from Trump. So who? Answers on a postcard to... Pooh who is back home in Washington right now since half the inner circle are off on the jolly in Europe. No prises for coming up with a name that also has media experience.

If this indeed is the case, the next question is, why on earth do the US want to damage US international links just so much? They have already forced Israel's policy.

What's curious here is May's response. She suddenly despite such a severe leak and threat to our security, admit EU worries says "hey NATO let's go into Iraq. Is this trying to bring the EU and US back together as she's afraid of being left cut off from both the US and the EU? Or is it sucking up to America?

I note also the British anger about the leaks has come from several places - the police, Andy Burnham, Fallon, Amber Rudd... But not May herself.

Don't you think that a bit odd? Of course maybe if May does she doesn't look in control of the situation (she's not) and this isn't good for her strong and stableness.

Regardless of the truth, its 'A Very Bad Thing' and something we should be shitting our pants about one way or another.

GingerIvy Wed 24-May-17 23:18:47

Daily Mail has hit a new low.

Jack Xatzinikolas‏Verified account @MxJackMonroe 1h1 hour ago
Literally. Just. Fuck. Off. Blaming. Ariana. For. The. Murders. Of. Children.

You absolute bastards. pic.twitter.com/eNMtIbOD4a

PerkingFaintly Wed 24-May-17 23:23:29

<kisses the arse of the illegitimate spawn of Mortificado>

PerkingFaintly Wed 24-May-17 23:28:03

And thanks for reposting that from the previous thread, Red.

Golondrina Wed 24-May-17 23:28:06

Placemarking. Was also wondering wtf about US leaks regarding Manchester investigation.

SanFranBear Wed 24-May-17 23:31:13

Oh - and still loving Pete Souza's work smile

dailyterminal.com/obama-photographer-schools-trumps-on-how-to-hold-hands/

lionheart Wed 24-May-17 23:39:55

Thanks for the new thread. smile

TrumpsUndevelopedSpaceBtwnEars Wed 24-May-17 23:41:28

All these leaks & I can't stop humming '6 months in a leaky boat'

There should be an award of some kind for these threads & all you dedicated posters. I'm in shock and awe of you all smile

BoreOfWhabylon Wed 24-May-17 23:42:47

<placemarks, wearing black mantilla and pious expression>

lionheart Wed 24-May-17 23:42:47

Genuflections all round, Perking. Only way.

These leaks are puzzling.

FantasticButtocks Wed 24-May-17 23:46:47

Checking in nice and early grin

RedToothBrush Wed 24-May-17 23:51:26

www.buzzfeed.com/johnhudson/trump-is-meeting-with-nato-and-russia-is-missing-from-the?utm_term=.elA68w6LE#.qvLnQ5n6N
NATO's Keeping Russia Off Their Official Meeting Agenda Because They Want Trump Happy
Moscow won’t be a formal topic for the alliance’s first major meeting with Donald Trump, NATO officials tell BuzzFeed News. And that’s no coincidence.

HelsinkiLights Wed 24-May-17 23:54:13

Hmm who's been left at home to keep the fires burning or when the cat's away which mice play?

PerkingFaintly Thu 25-May-17 00:00:49

In Brennan's testimony yesterday, he said one of the tactics (do I mean strategies?) of Russian active measures was to deepen divisions.

I must look for a transcript of that tomorrow, as I found some of the testimony very thought-provoking.

cozietoesie Thu 25-May-17 00:02:20

smile

Perihelion Thu 25-May-17 00:09:54

There's another possibility with leaking info of the Manchester attack to a media outlet not favoured by Trump...a call for greater censorship of the media.

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