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lets try again with the anti islamophobia, shall we!

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karbonfootprint Fri 03-Jul-15 22:38:51

Well, I did start a thread about this recently, but it is full of discussion about terrorists, and events in other countries......

Just talking about this country, the UK, and Muslim and non Muslim British people, lets just look after each other, and stand up for each other against intolerance and racism, and be friends!

Reginafalangie Fri 03-Jul-15 22:41:33

Lovely sentiment OP but the world is full of people with different ideas and as much as I want what you have said the realist in me knows it isn't possible.

WhyCantIuseTheNameIWant Fri 03-Jul-15 22:43:50

Sounds fair to me.
I try to be like that.
Treat people as you would like to be treated...
Unless they start taking advantage.
Bu that can be anybody, any religion, colour, age, size...
I have a couple of Muslim friends.
It's extremists of any religion who,are more likely to cause problems.

Wolfiefan Fri 03-Jul-15 22:43:55

It's not possible to stand up to intolerance? Really?

Wolfiefan Fri 03-Jul-15 22:44:47

Sorry x post. That was to Regina.

Heels99 Fri 03-Jul-15 22:44:47

Not a fan of religion that discriminates against women. so can't agree with you at all. Let's stand up to misogeny rather than " be friends " with it.

AnyoneForTennis Fri 03-Jul-15 22:45:19

I fear tolerance, in general, is fading fast.

PyjamasLlamas Fri 03-Jul-15 22:46:33

This thread will go exactly the same as the other one. I don't know why you have started it up again when that one was just sort of dying down.

AnyoneForTennis Fri 03-Jul-15 22:46:47

heels very good point! Sets us back 50 years

Heels99 Fri 03-Jul-15 22:49:53

Why tolerate Discrimination against women? Why is there a desire for toleranc over standing up for women's rights. Why appease?
Agree op is a stirrer and attentionsattention seeker for repetition of the same bloody thread

ghostyslovesheep Fri 03-Jul-15 22:50:18

YANBU but it will go the same way sadly - full of people demanding Muslims stand up (ignoring when they do and are) and banging on about Islam being anti women (it isn't - the Koran is not anti women - some Muslims men and states are - a bit like in other non Muslim countries)

This is always worth a view though - if people can be bothered to watch it

Reginafalangie Fri 03-Jul-15 22:50:32

Oh please don't think my post is an acceptance of intolerance. It isn't.
I fight it whenever I come across it which is a lot in my line of work I just find the premis of the post a bit twee. Sorry OP.

Heels99 Fri 03-Jul-15 22:52:31

Get out there and fight intolerance then op instead preachi here about it. Its hot air.

Gemauve Fri 03-Jul-15 22:53:11

Just talking about this country, the UK, and Muslim and non Muslim British people, lets just look after each other, and stand up for each other against intolerance and racism, and be friends!

Abu Usamah At Thahabi, an imam at the Green Lane mosque in Sparkbrook, Birmingham:

“we hate the people of the kufr. We hate the kuffar”.

“do you practice homosexuality with men? Take that homosexual man and throw him off the mountain”.

“she should start hijab from the age of seven, by the age of ten it becomes an obligation on us to force her to wear hijab and if she doesn’t wear hijab, we hit her”.

“Allah has created the women, even if she gets a PhD, deficient. Her intellect is incomplete, deficient”.

Yeah, tolerant stuff.

Fatstacks Fri 03-Jul-15 22:53:17

YABU couldn't say it better.

perfectlybroken Fri 03-Jul-15 22:53:52

Well thanks for trying op!

Cookie84 Fri 03-Jul-15 22:55:23

Most religions discriminate against women, not sure why Islam always gets stuck with this point

purdiepipesup Fri 03-Jul-15 22:56:39

What Gemauve said.

purdiepipesup Fri 03-Jul-15 22:57:31

Little bit disingenuous there, Cookie.

NewFlipFlops Fri 03-Jul-15 22:58:20

Zzzzzzzzzz. Other people exist too.

Heels99 Fri 03-Jul-15 22:59:03

Yes feel free To stand up to discriminatio Against women in other religions too. Rather than tolerate and befriend such behaviour

PoppyField Fri 03-Jul-15 23:01:13

Let's stand up for nice atheists. Fed up of people being nice to Muslims.

FunnysInLaJardin Fri 03-Jul-15 23:01:22

Wouldn't be having this discussion under a Labour government. Anyone noticed that country he's gone back about 20 years since Cameron and the Daily Hate took charge?

Magicalmrmistofeles Fri 03-Jul-15 23:02:32

I think gemauve said it better than I could.

DoughDoe Fri 03-Jul-15 23:03:10


Here are the police's figures on hate crimes:

1: race -36,000 per year
2: sexual orientation - 4,300 per year
3: disability - 1,800 per year
4: religion (all religions) - 1,600 per year

And if you look at the types of offence, the homophobic crimes disproportionately involve violence.

And not only that, if you ignore the much bigger issue of race, you ignore all the homosexuals and bisexuals being attacked, you ignore the disabled being tortured and abused, even within the category of religious hate crimes, the fact is that Jews are SIX TIMES more likely to be the subject of a religious hate crime than Muslims.

So why do we always hear about Islamophobia?

For me the subtext to this 'let's talk about Islamophobia' is 'people are Islamophobic, and this is why X', where X is some evil deed committed in the name of Islam (terrorist attacks, etc.).

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