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To be very sad and angry when I see a child getting smacked

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ohnoudidnt Wed 27-Jul-11 21:27:03

Was shopping today and have never seen a child get hit so hard ...he was about 3 ...It really upset me.I do not agree with hurting a child in any way and wish it could be banned.

icooksocks Wed 27-Jul-11 21:29:49

Popcorn anyone??

Mare11bp Wed 27-Jul-11 21:30:29

It is largely illegal. The person was lucky to not get challenged by somebody.
I guess no Police Officer nearby? I hate hearing stories like this. Not wishing to hijack your thread OP but I am wondering if most MNetters would challenge something like this if they saw it.

SequinsAndSparkles Wed 27-Jul-11 21:31:01

YANBU, I detest it, and I don't believe there is ever an excuse for it, especially when it's toddlers. As a parent, you should be the one your child always knows they are safe with. sad

SheCutOffTheirTails Wed 27-Jul-11 21:34:04

It makes me feel a little ill.

Has done ever since I was a child.

My head says smacking is OK, just not for me, but my stomach says it's wrong, wrong, wrong.

PamBeesly Wed 27-Jul-11 21:35:56

YANBU I hate it too. I was smacked as a child and used to get the fear when I thought I had been naughty sad

Selks Wed 27-Jul-11 21:37:13

This raises the question of what should one DO if you see a child being hit, say in a supermarket or street?

SequinsAndSparkles Wed 27-Jul-11 21:37:32

Oh pam that made me feel so sad for you sad

hester Wed 27-Jul-11 21:38:35

YANBU

nojustificationneeded Wed 27-Jul-11 21:39:32

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Henwelly Wed 27-Jul-11 21:40:33

Icooksocks yes please - my last box went poof!

ohnoudidnt Wed 27-Jul-11 21:42:08

PamBeesly that is very sad.

Mare11bp I did want to say something but was shocked and wasnt sure what to do...but I was angry and sad and angry for not doing anything.

saladsandwich Wed 27-Jul-11 21:42:20

yanbu - i use to work at a nursery and looked out of the window once to see one of the mums smack her 3 year old for wetting her clothes at nursery, never seen a child hit like that before. i reported it to my manager and wrote what i had seen down, they where one of our SS families so they where informed but theres nt much else you can do.... x

PamBeesly Wed 27-Jul-11 21:42:25

oh don't worry sequinsandsparkles it was very much the norm in Ireland in 1989 to lash into a 6 year old child, the wallop across the back of the legs, and then the boys got the belt. I'm telling you the nuns and priests did it guddo and parents also followed suit.
I feel so sorry for a little three year old. I would have physically cried, I'd be afraid to say anything to the parent in case it was taken out on the child.

LordOfTheFlies Wed 27-Jul-11 21:44:06

Mare1 1bp it is illegal to hit a child in Scotland. It is not illegal in England ( and I presume Wales/ Ireland but not sure)
Did a Safeguarding Children course recently and this was one of the ponts raised.
I'm sure the law states you are not allowed to leave a mark.

I defend my right as my DCs mother to decide on how I discipline them and I have given my DCs the very occasional single smack on the rump after warning. Usually told once, then final warning, do you understand.?

Anyone who interfered I would tell to MYOB

My DCs are well behaved balanced and I can take them almost anywhere.

malinois Wed 27-Jul-11 21:44:50

Mare11bp:

What does "largely illegal" mean?

You do realise it's perfectly legal to hit your kids in the UK? As long as you don't cause too much lasting damage (physical that is, you can cause as much emotional damage as you want) you're perfectly entitled to slap the shit out of them in both public and private.

PamBeesly Wed 27-Jul-11 21:45:30

Children have no bloody rights at all really

icooksocks Wed 27-Jul-11 21:46:30

Hands henwelly some popcorn. I have a 2 litre bottle of a well known brand of cola too if you'd like a drink?

rookiemater Wed 27-Jul-11 21:48:13

Wow LOTF how great for you that you can take your DCs almost anywhere. Neither DH nor I have ever hit our DS and strangely enough he is turning out pretty well too.
Funny how changing the wording to a single smack on the rump is meant to make violence acceptable.

malinois Wed 27-Jul-11 21:49:10

lordofthefiles: whoever ran your safeguarding course was incorrect. Smacking is not banned in Scotland, however they have a law that bans hitting children on the head, shaking them and hitting with a tawse/cane/belt etc. We don't even have that in England and Wales.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe Wed 27-Jul-11 21:49:11

I don't really understand people who get so upset at a parent smacking a child on the legs or bottom. The furore over 'smacking' has distorted attention from where it needs to be, which, in my opinion, is the sustained battery/abuse of a child whereby social services need to be involved before the child dies. Why not save the sadness and anger for that or better still, report these people. sad

SequinsAndSparkles Wed 27-Jul-11 21:49:17

You sound rather defensive LordOfTheFlies, of course it is your decision, but you must realise people can defend their right to find it disgusting, and sometimes abusive.

RitaMorgan Wed 27-Jul-11 21:51:49

It is horrible to see, and awful for that child. I believe it should be illegal too, you should no more be able to assualt a child than an adult.

I do understand parents sometimes snap and lose it - everyone feels pushed to the limit sometimes. But it is poor parenting imo.

Ivortheengine8 Wed 27-Jul-11 21:52:05

I don't think it is your place to tell the parent about the smacking as it is not illegal and not everyone has the same views as yourself on it. Unless it was clearly an abusive slap or done when the parents was very angry, its not your place.
I agree with LOTF

I think most parents do have common sense and can distinguish between a smack on the bum or hand and what is not.
Yes, I am glad that much abuse has been and is being stamped out. That is a great thing, but some parents decide that a smack on the bum occasionally is what their child needs. Never did us any harm.

Steeplearningcurve Wed 27-Jul-11 21:52:09

I'm really surprised as I was sure smacking was illegal now. Has there been some talk about changing the law that I could have been confused about?

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