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World Cup 2026

AIBU to wonder why the UK gets 4 teams in the World Cup, whereas France only gets one.

524 replies

TheKittenswithMittens · 12/06/2026 21:46

Why don't we play as UK in the World Cup? Why do we get 4 teams when everyone else gets just the one? It would bring an end to anyone but England sentiment.

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Topseyt123 · Yesterday 01:26

TheKittenswithMittens · 12/06/2026 22:08

I will concede that Scotland might be a separate country, but Wales isn't.

Of course Wales is a separate country. It even has its own devolved parliament.

You really are totally clueless, aren't you?

randomchap · Yesterday 01:28

Topseyt123 · Yesterday 01:26

Of course Wales is a separate country. It even has its own devolved parliament.

You really are totally clueless, aren't you?

It's like some people just skipped school entirely

AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · Yesterday 01:30

feckingmassivecakeandvesttop · Yesterday 01:08

Geez, us Aussies are good at cycling. Sorry do carry on.Wales doesn't exist or some such, blah blah.

Well, it basically doesn't in the men's world cup. Back in the day, I used to wish the UK nations entered jointly, simply because I felt sorry for Ryan Giggs when Wales failed to qualify in 1998 and 2002. If we'd had an all-UK team, he would absolutely been selected, and got to play in the tournaments proper.

However, his more recent appearances on the tabloid front pages hardened my heart and I no longer pity him.

AngryBeyondWords03 · Yesterday 01:30

TheKittenswithMittens · 12/06/2026 21:56

I am just trying to argue that England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are not countries. We are GB/UK and why should we have 4 teams when all the other countries get just the one?

Are you ok?

caringcarer · Yesterday 01:31

I think I read after the Olympics in 2012 Yorkshire won more medals on their own than many countries.

Yerdug · Yesterday 01:45

Before we go any further, can we please refer to this tournament as "The Men's World Cup"?

AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · Yesterday 01:58

Yerdug · Yesterday 01:45

Before we go any further, can we please refer to this tournament as "The Men's World Cup"?

On this subject, the UK could be hosting the women's world cup in 2035!

Then all four countries would be participating as co-hosts, like Japan and South Korea did in the men's cup in 2002. <rubs hands with glee>

gillefc82 · Yesterday 02:20

ENGLANDalltheway · Yesterday 00:18

Are you also not aware that La Liga and The Bundesleague, the Italian league, Scottish football etc. Etc etc. are dominated by the same clubs year in year out....

Whereas the Premiership isn't.... arsenal this year Liverpool previously, previously Man City......

Tell me you know NOTHING about football 😂😂

And yet in the last decade since the 15/16 season when Leicester won, City have been league champions 6 times, including a record 4 consecutive PL title wins between the 20/21 and 23/24, as well as a record points total of 100 for the 17/18 season.

And since the inception of the league, Blackburn Rovers and Leicester are the only teams outside of Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and the two Manchester clubs to have won the title. Hardly competitive - just compare it to the current Championship or even the old First Division to see the diversity there used to be in league winners.

And when you consider where Blackburn and Leicester have been/are now, both having spent huge sums of money on the gamble that they would achieve success and that that success could be sustained and/or repeated, it’s not a huge incentive for the rest of the clubs to take that same risk in pursuit of winning the league.

The PL absolutely isn’t the only league with little competition for the top places as you’ve noted, but that doesn’t make it the best in terms of quality when you consider the majority of the teams playing in it. In my view, 2/3rds of the teams have mostly bang average players, a couple who are good athletes but aren’t the best technical footballers, and at most one or two skilled players who are capable of single-handedly changing a game. Compared to the average skill levels of players in La Liga or Serie A, I think there’s a big difference.

Using Everton as an example, I’d say there’s only really Grealish and Ndiaye that have the ball control, dribbling skills, the vision and footballing nous to produce an individual match winning performance. And yet, both can still be guilty of not releasing the ball quickly enough, of not putting in earlier passes into the box or not just getting the ball out from under their feet and having a shot from the edge of the area when they’re in space.

As for the rest of the squad, other than Pickford who is fantastic and has been key to our survival over recent seasons (but is still guilty of failing to properly command his box and for punching balls away too often that he should be catching) and Branthwaite who shows all the attributes to become a top left footed centre back (but has sadly been out with a few injuries for most of the season which hopefully isn’t a sign of things to come), the rest of the squad range from good, to solid, to average, to largely overrated/shite (I’m looking at you Dwight McNeil!)

Are you honestly telling me that if you were to look at the first team/main squads of the other PL teams, you wouldn’t reach similar conclusions about the general quality levels of the players?

For every Wayne Rooney, James Rodríguez or Romelu Lukaku, there’s been a dozen Alex Iwobi’s, Demarai Gray’s or Oumar Niasse’s stealing a living as premier league footballers.

Nothavingagoodvalentinesday · Yesterday 02:39

Because we are four countries. Simples.

Nothavingagoodvalentinesday · Yesterday 02:56

Prombles · 12/06/2026 22:54

Maybe we could get four acts in the Eurovision Song Contest, then at least someone from the UK wouldn't finish last 😆

They’d all get nil points.

RigsbysCat · Yesterday 03:45

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RigsbysCat · Yesterday 03:49

PhaedraTwo · Yesterday 00:18

Why? The "anyone but England" is deeply cringe making.

Nope it's fun!

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · Yesterday 05:09

Because the uk is 4 countries.

The kingdom of the Netherlands also currently has 2 teams in the World Cup

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · Yesterday 05:10

TheKittenswithMittens · 12/06/2026 22:01

No other sovereign state has multiple teams.

the Netherlands and Curucao

YippyKiYay · Yesterday 05:21

Piggywaspushed · 12/06/2026 22:19

The cricket would blow your mind. English cricket team which you can play in if you are Welsh, Irish, whatever. But also a Welsh, Scottish , Irish cricket team. And let's not get on to the West Indies.

The England Cricket team is actually England and Wales
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England_cricket_team

England cricket team - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England_cricket_team

YippyKiYay · Yesterday 05:25

TheKittenswithMittens · 12/06/2026 22:08

I will concede that Scotland might be a separate country, but Wales isn't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wales
Literally defined as a country
I'm beginning to suspect that OP is Scottish or Welsh actually, and that this is a reverse

Wales - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wales

YippyKiYay · Yesterday 05:29

TheKittenswithMittens · 12/06/2026 22:01

No other sovereign state has multiple teams.

What other sovereign state are you referring to OP?

In the mean time, this may be useful for your education on sovereignty... Explains how we got here, and also some useful info on Federal States (eg Germany and USA).
parliamentnews.co.uk/how-is-britain-a-unitary-state-understanding-its-constitutional-structure/

FourSevenThree · Yesterday 05:40

It's just one of the historical UK privileges which make less and less sense in today's world.

If the UK should have right to stand 4 teams, it would be reasonable for the US to field 50, Germany 16, but than the world aspect might collapse.

Pandorea · Yesterday 05:47

TheKittenswithMittens · 12/06/2026 21:53

So why doesn't Normandy play in the World Cup?

Citizens of New Caledonia and Tahiti are French citizens but they both have separate football teams recognised by FIFA - they just didn’t qualify for the World Cup (like Wales and NI).

Grghf · Yesterday 05:48

FourSevenThree · Yesterday 05:40

It's just one of the historical UK privileges which make less and less sense in today's world.

If the UK should have right to stand 4 teams, it would be reasonable for the US to field 50, Germany 16, but than the world aspect might collapse.

That doesn't even make sense. In tgat case the uk should have 93 teams.

Fast800goingforit · Yesterday 05:51

CurdinHenry · 12/06/2026 21:52

Hardly - there's nothing more cringe than an Allo Allo generation englishwoman

What does that mean?

wrinklycactus · Yesterday 05:58

TheKittenswithMittens · 12/06/2026 21:56

I am just trying to argue that England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are not countries. We are GB/UK and why should we have 4 teams when all the other countries get just the one?

Why are you trying to argue they aren't countries when they are?

I mean, it's just a fact. You can't really argue it.

MaRhodes · Yesterday 06:20

I was explaining how the UK works to an Australian and she asked why they didn't just merge the other 3 countries into England.

mathanxiety · Yesterday 06:23

MrsAvocet · 12/06/2026 22:06

Because the IOC only recognise one Olympic Committee for Great Britain and FIFA recognise the FAs of the individual constituent countries. Different competitions, different rules, set by the relevant organising committees, nothing more complicated than that. I would suspect that the fact that football began in Britain, and if I understand correctly, the English FA was the first in the world probably has some thing to do with it.

I think that sidesteps the question of why 'GB' and why not 'UK', and also why not 'The UK of GB and NI'.

FourSevenThree · Yesterday 06:33

Grghf · Yesterday 05:48

That doesn't even make sense. In tgat case the uk should have 93 teams.

There's 93 of what in the UK? Google doesn't have any idea.

4 "countries" within the UK is stretching the semantics of the world country a lot.
Maybe internally recognised as sovereign nations, but the international aspect is not there (outside of football).
Internationally there is no English Embassy and no-one cares about the exact Welsh border, it's seen as the UK's inner affair. Having regional parliaments is pretty normal in bigger subdivided countries.