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World Cup 2026

AIBU to wonder why the UK gets 4 teams in the World Cup, whereas France only gets one.

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TheKittenswithMittens · 12/06/2026 21:46

Why don't we play as UK in the World Cup? Why do we get 4 teams when everyone else gets just the one? It would bring an end to anyone but England sentiment.

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Honeyhonay · Yesterday 17:16

Abitofalark · Yesterday 17:06

We agree, I think, if you put in the word 'officially' before the statement. Although the government of Ireland changed the constitution for the sake of a settlement, some people also do not accept that and do not accept the current status and official definition of what the country of Ireland is. It is real to them that Ireland is one, undivided, and that they are Irish.

Are you in Ireland or NI?
It doesn’t sound like it, you can be Irish better you have birthright citizenship able to be claimed by being born on the island of Ireland.
Who on earth are the people who believe it’s “real” that Ireland is undivided? I’ve never seen even the most hard line republicans make any claim like that.
What they deny is the role of Westminster, it is an undeniable fact that ROI is ruled from Dublin and NI is ruled from Belfast. You can’t possibly exist in Ireland and deny that, while different currencies, governments, school systems, healthcare systems etc exist between them.
There is an island of Ireland and the fact is within it are two separate states.

Letsgetreadytorhumble · Yesterday 17:24

Honeyhonay · Yesterday 17:16

Are you in Ireland or NI?
It doesn’t sound like it, you can be Irish better you have birthright citizenship able to be claimed by being born on the island of Ireland.
Who on earth are the people who believe it’s “real” that Ireland is undivided? I’ve never seen even the most hard line republicans make any claim like that.
What they deny is the role of Westminster, it is an undeniable fact that ROI is ruled from Dublin and NI is ruled from Belfast. You can’t possibly exist in Ireland and deny that, while different currencies, governments, school systems, healthcare systems etc exist between them.
There is an island of Ireland and the fact is within it are two separate states.

Exactly like England, Scotland and Wales - three countries, one island.
Or should I say Scotland, Wales and Southern Scotland/Eastern Wales 😉

Beechswaying · Yesterday 17:54

Abitofalark · Yesterday 17:06

We agree, I think, if you put in the word 'officially' before the statement. Although the government of Ireland changed the constitution for the sake of a settlement, some people also do not accept that and do not accept the current status and official definition of what the country of Ireland is. It is real to them that Ireland is one, undivided, and that they are Irish.

Well they are certainly Irish, nobody is disputing that for a minute.

I mean, as for the rest, I personally think they’re deluding themselves at this stage but it is their right to do that if they wish as long as things stay peaceful.
It’s also possible things will change again in the future.

Livelovebehappy · Yesterday 18:00

Goonie1 · Yesterday 12:16

There have been some very special players, so that’s a bit unfair….Gareth Bale, Ryan Giggs, Paul McGrath, George Best, Kenny Dalgleigh, Dennis Law, Graeme Souness. Plus Scotland qualified this year so they can’t be as rubbish as you’re making out?

Im talking about the here and now. The ones youve mentioned are either dead or retired.....

Abitofalark · Yesterday 18:09

Beechswaying · Yesterday 17:54

Well they are certainly Irish, nobody is disputing that for a minute.

I mean, as for the rest, I personally think they’re deluding themselves at this stage but it is their right to do that if they wish as long as things stay peaceful.
It’s also possible things will change again in the future.

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Well yes, that's what they hope and work for - that it will change in the future with a referendum to bring it into fruition.

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · Yesterday 18:31

Honeyhonay · Yesterday 15:42

Surely it’s obvious where it stems from? England are historically colonisers, hence they’re not a popular team for other countries to cheer on in sports. It’s not complicated.

Ah, I see. So all the bad things done by the (presumably misnamed) British Empire in the past were solely done by England, then?

And in fact are still being done right now by the current members of the England football team, hence they carry the blame for being colonisers and are thus hated for it?

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · Yesterday 18:34

Words · Yesterday 15:59

I wish none of them played in it. Am living in self imposed media black-out as I can’t stand the wretched thing.

And why is it even in America? Do they even play football? They have that men’s netball thing, rounders on steroids and that weird game requiring bulbous shoulder pads.

Millions of people in America are extremely passionate about football - Brazil, Argentina, Colombia...... loads of them.

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · Yesterday 18:36

Letsgetreadytorhumble · Yesterday 17:24

Exactly like England, Scotland and Wales - three countries, one island.
Or should I say Scotland, Wales and Southern Scotland/Eastern Wales 😉

One island? There are thousands of them!

Goonie1 · Yesterday 19:12

Livelovebehappy · Yesterday 18:00

Im talking about the here and now. The ones youve mentioned are either dead or retired.....

Ok, and it’s possible for special players to emerge again

Letsgetreadytorhumble · Yesterday 19:12

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · Yesterday 18:36

One island? There are thousands of them!

I am referring to someone or many people on this thread talking about Ireland. It IS only ONE island but sadly two countries on it. Some people do not comprehend this that Northern Ireland is not the other end of the so called southern Ireland we have Ireland and we have the 6 counties of Northern Ireland. Two countries, one island. That was all my point was about.

Livelovebehappy · Yesterday 19:16

Goonie1 · Yesterday 19:12

Ok, and it’s possible for special players to emerge again

It is possible. But as it stands, I don’t think England would benefit from taking on any players from Scotland/Wales or NI. There’s very slim pickings…..let’s keep it as is. Separate teams.

Goonie1 · Yesterday 19:19

Livelovebehappy · Yesterday 19:16

It is possible. But as it stands, I don’t think England would benefit from taking on any players from Scotland/Wales or NI. There’s very slim pickings…..let’s keep it as is. Separate teams.

I agree in terms of keeping it separate but for different reasons. but adding the likes of Giggs or Bale would’ve definitely improved the England team IMO

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 20:41

Letsgetreadytorhumble · Yesterday 17:00

Originally NI was Ireland till your lot swooped in, stole 6 counties and called it yours then renamed it Northern Ireland. It is a country in it's own right on the island of Ireland.

My lot?

ENGLANDalltheway · Yesterday 20:43

gillefc82 · Yesterday 02:20

And yet in the last decade since the 15/16 season when Leicester won, City have been league champions 6 times, including a record 4 consecutive PL title wins between the 20/21 and 23/24, as well as a record points total of 100 for the 17/18 season.

And since the inception of the league, Blackburn Rovers and Leicester are the only teams outside of Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and the two Manchester clubs to have won the title. Hardly competitive - just compare it to the current Championship or even the old First Division to see the diversity there used to be in league winners.

And when you consider where Blackburn and Leicester have been/are now, both having spent huge sums of money on the gamble that they would achieve success and that that success could be sustained and/or repeated, it’s not a huge incentive for the rest of the clubs to take that same risk in pursuit of winning the league.

The PL absolutely isn’t the only league with little competition for the top places as you’ve noted, but that doesn’t make it the best in terms of quality when you consider the majority of the teams playing in it. In my view, 2/3rds of the teams have mostly bang average players, a couple who are good athletes but aren’t the best technical footballers, and at most one or two skilled players who are capable of single-handedly changing a game. Compared to the average skill levels of players in La Liga or Serie A, I think there’s a big difference.

Using Everton as an example, I’d say there’s only really Grealish and Ndiaye that have the ball control, dribbling skills, the vision and footballing nous to produce an individual match winning performance. And yet, both can still be guilty of not releasing the ball quickly enough, of not putting in earlier passes into the box or not just getting the ball out from under their feet and having a shot from the edge of the area when they’re in space.

As for the rest of the squad, other than Pickford who is fantastic and has been key to our survival over recent seasons (but is still guilty of failing to properly command his box and for punching balls away too often that he should be catching) and Branthwaite who shows all the attributes to become a top left footed centre back (but has sadly been out with a few injuries for most of the season which hopefully isn’t a sign of things to come), the rest of the squad range from good, to solid, to average, to largely overrated/shite (I’m looking at you Dwight McNeil!)

Are you honestly telling me that if you were to look at the first team/main squads of the other PL teams, you wouldn’t reach similar conclusions about the general quality levels of the players?

For every Wayne Rooney, James Rodríguez or Romelu Lukaku, there’s been a dozen Alex Iwobi’s, Demarai Gray’s or Oumar Niasse’s stealing a living as premier league footballers.

How about you look at the number of players in the World Cup from the English Premier league and the English Championship then compare with the number of players from others leagues..... World class. Miles ahead, where the best players chose to play. Facts speak for themselves ...

gillefc82 · Yesterday 20:55

ENGLANDalltheway · Yesterday 20:43

How about you look at the number of players in the World Cup from the English Premier league and the English Championship then compare with the number of players from others leagues..... World class. Miles ahead, where the best players chose to play. Facts speak for themselves ...

Driven, in my view, because they play in a league that is the most widely televised globally meaning much more exposure and is by far the richest, not because it has the best quality talent pound for pound.

We can agree to disagree.

Newname26 · Yesterday 21:07

inigomontoyahwillcox · Yesterday 13:59

We'll have to agree to disagree about this one as I honestly can't understand what you're talking about.

Team GB Mens football at Olympics

1900 & 1904 - club teams were entered.
1912 & 1920 - English amateur teams were entered
1924 & 1928 - FA withdrew after disagreement over professional players.

1930 Fifa World Cup established

1932 No football at Olympics

1936 & 1948-72 A home nations amature team played (but never qualified beyond 1960)

2012 GB were given a place as England was host nation.
The British Olympic Association (BOA) stated it would enter a football team,[5] but the Scottish Football Association (SFA) refused even to attend meetings at which the Home Nations were to discuss the possibility[34] and the Football Association of Wales (FAW) withdrew from the negotiations.[35] The Irish Football Association (representing Northern Ireland) stated in October 2007 that they would not take part in a unified team, leaving the Football Association (England) as the only association willing to take part.

Therefore the team that was entered in 2012 was essentially an English team rather than a 4 nations team.

There has been womens teams but thats a different issue. There isn't an equivalent to the World Cup for Women

Mainly from Wikipedia

Great Britain Olympic football team - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Britain_Olympic_football_team#cite_note-GB_football_team_to_enter_Games-5

ENGLANDalltheway · Yesterday 21:13

gillefc82 · Yesterday 20:55

Driven, in my view, because they play in a league that is the most widely televised globally meaning much more exposure and is by far the richest, not because it has the best quality talent pound for pound.

We can agree to disagree.

😂

The Premiership attracts many world class players. Premiership players are now competing at the World Cup in a larger number than from any other league in the World. Simply the best, better than all the rest 😉

ENGLANDalltheway · Yesterday 21:16

Newname26 · Yesterday 21:07

Team GB Mens football at Olympics

1900 & 1904 - club teams were entered.
1912 & 1920 - English amateur teams were entered
1924 & 1928 - FA withdrew after disagreement over professional players.

1930 Fifa World Cup established

1932 No football at Olympics

1936 & 1948-72 A home nations amature team played (but never qualified beyond 1960)

2012 GB were given a place as England was host nation.
The British Olympic Association (BOA) stated it would enter a football team,[5] but the Scottish Football Association (SFA) refused even to attend meetings at which the Home Nations were to discuss the possibility[34] and the Football Association of Wales (FAW) withdrew from the negotiations.[35] The Irish Football Association (representing Northern Ireland) stated in October 2007 that they would not take part in a unified team, leaving the Football Association (England) as the only association willing to take part.

Therefore the team that was entered in 2012 was essentially an English team rather than a 4 nations team.

There has been womens teams but thats a different issue. There isn't an equivalent to the World Cup for Women

Mainly from Wikipedia

😂

The World Cup is different from the Olympics. Some countries don't send top teams to the Olympics because they dont want it to be like another version.

Tell me you know nothing about World Cup football played by the best players 🙄

gillefc82 · Yesterday 21:30

ENGLANDalltheway · Yesterday 21:13

😂

The Premiership attracts many world class players. Premiership players are now competing at the World Cup in a larger number than from any other league in the World. Simply the best, better than all the rest 😉

Respectfully, I disagree. And for all your “superior” football knowledge, let me give you some help, one football fan to another:

it’s La Liga, not La Leagua as you’ve previously stated
it’s the Bundesliga, not the Bundesleague as you’ve called it twice
and it’s the Premier League, it hasn’t been called the Premiership in nearly 20 years

Happy to help! 😂😂😂

ChalkOutlines · Yesterday 21:32

ENGLANDalltheway · Yesterday 21:13

😂

The Premiership attracts many world class players. Premiership players are now competing at the World Cup in a larger number than from any other league in the World. Simply the best, better than all the rest 😉

And yet.. when was the last time you actually won one? Oh… right.

Newname26 · Yesterday 21:52

ENGLANDalltheway · Yesterday 21:16

😂

The World Cup is different from the Olympics. Some countries don't send top teams to the Olympics because they dont want it to be like another version.

Tell me you know nothing about World Cup football played by the best players 🙄

I'm telling you that GB doesn't put a male football team into the Olympics.
And WHY.

The other nations don't want too SIMPLES

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · Yesterday 21:55

Letsgetreadytorhumble · Yesterday 19:12

I am referring to someone or many people on this thread talking about Ireland. It IS only ONE island but sadly two countries on it. Some people do not comprehend this that Northern Ireland is not the other end of the so called southern Ireland we have Ireland and we have the 6 counties of Northern Ireland. Two countries, one island. That was all my point was about.

Exactly like England, Scotland and Wales - three countries, one island.

That's the bit that confused me - as it made it sound like those three countries were contained in just one island. If we're talking about misconceptions about which islands equal which countries, it seems a bit weird to ignore the many other islands that are integral parts of those three countries.

Letsgetreadytorhumble · Yesterday 21:57

I get ye but just seems to me that people see Ireland as a whole island which it is and I am all for us taking back our counties and making it exactly that but currently it is two countries on the one island. Nobody queries the one island that is made up of England, Scotland and Wales though which is why it baffles me about Ireland and NI but I guess maybe it is because Northern Ireland sounds like a place on a compass!

KeepDancing1 · Yesterday 22:06

I think this was mentioned on The Rest is History this week (they’re doing a World Cup series on national anthems). England and Scotland were the first teams playing each other in ‘international’ football matches, and all the rest joined in later!

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