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Invited to a "hearing" regarding my conduct

93 replies

Ronaldinhio · 05/01/2010 12:29

I have been given a number of bullet points that I am supposed to defend? but no idea of context or examples etc
Am I entitled to be supplied with this information and also the witness statements to these facts?
No idea even who my accuser/accusers are??

Help anyone if you can please!

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TheYearOfTheCat · 05/01/2010 22:31

Just posting to add my support.

If they are alleging there are numerous lunches with alcohol consumed, and days off with no explanation, should this not have been raised with you before so that you had a chance to modify your conduct, rather than storing everything up and hitting you with it?

Good luck.

Ronaldinhio · 05/01/2010 22:53

Thanks again...it seems that it's all better under one banner

weirdly I feel as though I've just been dumped by my husband
shocked, betrayed, grieving and then wondering why I wasn't able to see the signs for so long
diazepam and sleeping pills helped through the worst

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JustAnotherManicMummy · 05/01/2010 23:53

Ron I just wanted to say that I've been through something very similar on two separate occasions. The first time I had a bullying boss, procedures weren't followed and I ended up very nearly having a nervous break down before I got another job and left. The second time my boss was supportive and procedures were followed to the letter and whilst still stressful it was completely different.

There was no official action taken against me the first time because HR processes weren't followed. And because the allegation was untrue. I wish I'd made a grievance against my boss (what she did to me was sustained and serious bullying). She did reduce my appraisal grade but by that point I had given up and just wanted to get out so didn't even speak in the meeting. Not that she noticed It is a big regret of mine that I didn't fight harder, but at the time I was young and didn't know that some of the things she was doing weren't just immoral but ilegal.

The second time I had been sent in to tackle a problem team and one member of staff made serious but spurious allegations against me. Process was followed to the letter, grievance made by the member of staff, fully investigated (including interviewing every member of my staff) and the outcome was that there was no evidence that any of the allegations were true. In fact, the investigator found the "victim" was in fact guilty of most, if not all, the allegations . That time I was older, wiser, knew the HR processes inside out and back to front, my legal position and had the support of my manager and union. Yes, it was still stressful but it was bareable and I am glad I stuck it out. I found out later that at the appeal she had complained that she didn't like "the way she asks me to do things". When asked what it was she didn't like she had been unable to say, even when prompted "was it the tone used? the language? did she stand too close to you when she said it?"... turned out she just didn't like being asked to do anything!

What I wanted to say, is that I absolutely understand how you feel betrayed and bewildered - but you will get through this and it will get better. You have some good advice on here from Ribenaberry which you should take. Always ask for specific examples and do not resign. CAT me if you want some extra support from some one who's been there.

Ronaldinhio · 06/01/2010 09:46

thanks for such a great post

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JustAnotherManicMummy · 06/01/2010 17:10

Blush Smile

BellsaRinging · 06/01/2010 19:49

Just thought. It sounds as if this has happened to others in your position at the company. Don't suppose you have any contact details for them? It may be that they could help you, with support if nothing else, at best with a witness statement?

Aussieng · 06/01/2010 21:16

Ron - sorry this sounds a horrible situation. I think that some firms are acting quite unscrupulously at the moment with regard to getting rid of expensive-to-make-redundant employees.

Have you received proper appraisals over your years with the company> Have any of these issues ever been raised before or if not do you have evidence of no feedback on any of these issues ever being raised previously> It seems extreme for your company to have moved immediately to suspension and a discipliniary hearing. My cousin received compensation ater being sacked in similar circumstance - the tribunal effectively said that the employer had moved to quickly to the extreme solution.

Also, this is too late for your hearing on Monday but it may be useful in the aftermath but have you considered issueing a subject access request under the Data Protection Act> Your company would then have to provide details of all data they hold on you and could give you some answers or facts tto assist with any appeal. It only costs £10.

echt · 08/01/2010 03:06

Just read all this, Ronald.

Hope everything went well at the meeting.

TheYearOfTheCat · 10/01/2010 10:25

Ron,
Am I right in thinking that your hearing was scheduled for tomorrow?

Have you managed to get it postponed in order to allow you to prepare fully. How have you got on in relation to accessing your old blackberry & records?

Good luck.

StealthPolarBear · 10/01/2010 20:15

good luck x

Lulumama · 10/01/2010 20:16

also thinking of you xxxx

MaHumbug · 11/01/2010 00:22

Good luck from me too.

MaHumbug · 11/01/2010 21:50

I was thinking about you today. How did it go?

JustAnotherManicMummy · 11/01/2010 21:53

Hope it went ok

Boobz · 12/01/2010 15:23

Any news?

Crapweasel · 13/01/2010 13:00

Checking in to see how it went.

Let us know when you are able...

taytotayto · 19/01/2010 20:29

i am so sorry this is happening to you, i can't give you any advice but im thinking of you and hoping it all gets sorted. i know what its like to be wronged at work and its terrible. it amazes me how these people think they will get away with carrying on like they do. just remember the truth will win out in the end. GOOD LUCK.

echt · 06/02/2010 05:16

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