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URGENT - DH JUST BEEN SUSPENDED FROM WORK NEED ADVICE

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puddytats · 09/06/2005 11:39

DH just got home. Returned today after 4weeks off after birth of dd to find that he is at the centre of fraud allegations at work. He was given no warning until this morning and was given no chance of having a representitive at the meeting that suspended him.

He did not do this (i know i am bound to say this but he is innocent). Where do we go from here, what should work have provided him with, what do they need to tell him etc?

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SaintGeorge · 10/06/2005 22:12

No advice, just wanted to wish you luck with all this.

Out of interest, if the names on the cheques were changed how were they cashed? Unless a signatory on the cheque either initialled or counter-signed the alteration the bank shouldn't have cleared the cheques.

jampots · 10/06/2005 22:35

if they have produced actual cheques with names changed, then how possible is it that these names were changed recently ie. after banking?

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puddytats · 10/06/2005 23:25

Hi all.

Hearing finished at 7.30pm. Say a family friend who is a solicitor but not specialising in this area, he said it all boils down to what account they were cashed in.

Whoever did this knows us, they have used my maiden name, dhs name, even down to a made up address on a letter (we have checked the address it does not exist) containing the same name as our street. We feel totally violated. Sommeone has stolen our lives.

Have also spoken to a criminal lawyer toonight who has said on the evidence dh will be arrested and that could happen at any time. Just need that 2 happen now so that we can move on to the next stage.

On paper dh says if it was not him he would say he was guilty, they have been so clever it is frightening.

We have 2 small children, we have worked for everything we have, we have never even got a speeding ticket, why is this happening to us.

All dh has ever done is work and support his family, why why why.....

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Flossam · 10/06/2005 23:29

puddytats. I have no advice to give, I'm sorry. Just hope everything gets sorted for you in super quick time and I am so sorry this is happening to you. x

huggybear · 10/06/2005 23:29

oh puddytats

i am so sorry to hear what your going through,
i have know idea about any of this stuff but my thoughts are with you and your family

xxx

Sax · 10/06/2005 23:30

((((((((((((((hugs))))))))))) Sorry to hear you are having such a jolly hard time at the mo.

jampots · 10/06/2005 23:30

puddytats - how very frightening for you all. I hope you get all the help you can. Still worth speaking to freckle and sis. And glad you managed to get a criminal lawyer. Think back abuot what details his work know about him even your maiden name - ask to see his personnel file and keep us posted and feel free to ask anyone for help/advice/ideas too xx

LGJ · 10/06/2005 23:31

Do you have equity in your home ??

If so, I would use this equity to throw every penny you have at this.

LGJ

jampots · 10/06/2005 23:33

or even check your home insurance for legal expenses cover - leave absolutely no stone unturned. I know an excellent criminal lawyer but she's in Brum - also a very good employment lawyer too but she's Brum too

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puddytats · 10/06/2005 23:35

Luckily mum and sis (who i think posted here earlier tonight) have takken the children so we can has a little time to gather our thoughts. All we can see at the moment is dh being jailed for something he did not do.

Everything has his electronic signiture on it, it so points to him it is farcical. It is like he has not tried to cover anything. As he said, if he was going to do it he would not be so stupid as to leave his signiture all over it.

He is currently feeling like the most ineot criminal in the world!!!!

I just keep asking why us, what have we done to this person to deserve this, i would not wish it on my worst enemy, it is not just our lives that are being destryed it is the immocent lives of our children as well and they have certainly done nothing to deserve this.

Somehow we have to find the strength to get through tomorrow and I don't honestly know whrere we can get that fr4om

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jampots · 10/06/2005 23:39

have the cheques been cashed or paid into an account?

how were the amendments made?

what was the time difference between the two cheques? Were his colleagues the same on the two occasions?

Definitely get a handwriting expert if the name was changed by hand.

If not look into other forensic evidence, they can tell how old print is etc which should lead towards when the amendments were made and whether it was after they were banked ie. returned from the bank

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puddytats · 10/06/2005 23:44

Amwndments were made after cheques were signed by partners. Work still looking into where the cheques were cashed - one def in the same bank we use. All evidence points to dh except HE DID NOT DO IT.

I know that I am his wife and would say this but I have been with the man for almost 12 years and can honestly say I know him.

Am going back to bed now. Will not sleep but at least I can hug him

Thankyou all again for al;l your support and advice.

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jampots · 10/06/2005 23:46

goodnight puddytats xx

SaintGeorge · 10/06/2005 23:48

How were the cheques cashed?
Cheques with alterations should be refused by the counter clerk. If the counter clerk misses them then they should be stopped by the data input department.

bubbly1973 · 10/06/2005 23:51

puddytats i dont have anything useful to say, just read this thread and cant believe what a nightmare this is, and feel awful that you are going through this esepcially after giving birth recently

you said on one of your other threads that you were feeling down, and the holiday you went on did you the world of good, so for this to happen, well i can only imagine how crap you must be feeling

thinking of you and hoping all turns out well in the end, and sooner rather than later
(((hugs)))

munz · 11/06/2005 08:28

oh god, so for u, I don't know of any lawyers in the portsmouth aarea (and i'm from there) will get on the case for u thou and ask about in the family to see if they can recommend anyone good for you.

can these ppl not trace back to the bank which the cheques were cashed at? and the day they were cashed - (cctv on the counters? could be an option) if they think he's guilty why wasn't he allowed a lawyer to ask questions etc.. and why were the police not involved b4?

keep focused on the point your DH is innocent. try to think of someone who'd do this to u - or I suppose u have been thinking of that? who knows all these detials about u? - a close riend? someone in personnell, it either has to be someone who's v v good riends with u both and new ur DH would be away or it's someone who DH talks to specifically who could prise information from him ie ur maiden name or somehting.

(would there not be prints on the cheque? - or does ur DH touch most of the cheques anyways? - then again if u were away when it all happened?) god what an awful situation to be in. As far as I know as well any lawyers firm has to give you half hours free consultation (not sure if it's def right thou)

god hope things get sorted out quickly for you.

foxinsocks · 11/06/2005 08:40

puddytats what a nightmare. Has your husband given any thought to who it might be? Could it be someone at work who he has problems with? I imagine as the amendments seem to have been made at work, it would have to be someone who also had access to the cheques and some fairly intimate knowledge about you and him (though given what identity theft is like, this sort of information is not that hard to find - it's the altering cheques bit that should be the key). He needs to sit down and think about it (I know, easier said than done).

It should be good news that the cheques were cashed at a bank not via post or any other means as hopefully, your bank will have cctv.

Have they got a fraud investigator in (or accountant or police)to look into this in detail? It seems (from what you are saying) that the company have made a few conclusions already. I would think that your dh should be able to request a proper fraud investigation if the company have not employed an independent person yet.

munz · 11/06/2005 08:43

thinking out loud there and I know u already have a lot on ur plate but is it worth considering if they've done it with the cheques could they possibly have done it with other stuff and god credit etc out in either of your names?

ScrewballMuppet · 11/06/2005 09:06

The cctv footage from the banks should reveal the real culprit. The bank will have a record of the days cheques were payed in and possibly even a time and the cashier's details who dealt with it if I remember right. From there they should beable to get the cctv footage and see who it really is.

not quite sure what to say except ((((((hugs)))))) and that me and family are thinking of you, dh and your family.

jampots · 11/06/2005 09:39

good point Munz - its worth speaking to Experian and/or Equifax to see about getting a credit report on your names/address

munz · 11/06/2005 09:49

that's what i'm thinking JP - It's £2.00 for the report, or at least it used to be, u have to write in with your name and address etc over the last 3 years, can't remeber about DOB or anything like that thou.

jampots · 11/06/2005 09:51

essbee and I did this thing on MSN once with limited information about each other, and we found each other within a couple of mins online using hte info we knew (name and approx area) - i think it freaked us both out

ScummyMummy · 11/06/2005 09:53

This sounds like a total nightmare, puddytats. I think getting a lawyer as quickly as humanly possible is your dh's best bet. I know nothing about this sort of thing (am in awe of Soapbox's brilliant posts) but wanted to say how very sorry I am that you're going through this.

Puff · 11/06/2005 11:19

I'm just horrified for you both puddytats - this must be v frightening.

It is awful to have to consider that someone close to you both may have done this, but it does sound as though you need to think the unthinkinkable ie no-one around you is above suspicion.

Someone mentioned forensic handwriting experts - I don't know if this is of any help at all (you'll be discussing all this with your dh's solicitor obviously), but apparently Dr Audrey Giles is one of the leading forensic document examiners in the country. I read about her a few years ago (she was asked to authenticate the origin of some famous diaries I was interested in ). If you do a search on her, you should find some info.

jampots · 11/06/2005 13:01

Audrey GIles !!!! Thats the one I was trying to find!!!!

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