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If I said I was going to call you after five because I was in meetings until five

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Dollysleftnip · 02/06/2026 21:05

Would you be sat waiting by your phone at 5 o’clock for my call?
I’m trying to decide who’s being unreasonable, but I’m not prepared to run the Gaunlet of Am I being unreasonable?

OP posts:
Dollysleftnip · 03/06/2026 12:26

ZZTopGuitarSolo · 03/06/2026 11:20

But if you would have declined a meeting at 5, why did you imply you’d be free by saying that’s when your meetings finish?

I’m not surprised he’s being ‘shitty’ about it.

There was no implication on my part unless there was implication on his part. I cannot be assuming unless he is assuming so therefore in equal parts there’s been inadequate communication
But the blame does not lie solely at my feet
And I’m not the one being shitty
That really is the final word. I bid you all farewell.
And learn from my near fatal mistake of not sending a teams invite
Let me tell you the implications of this are absolutely …. Zero.
So glad to have filled up a five page thread though and kept you all out of mischief

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DressOrSkirt · 03/06/2026 12:31

Dollysleftnip · 03/06/2026 12:26

There was no implication on my part unless there was implication on his part. I cannot be assuming unless he is assuming so therefore in equal parts there’s been inadequate communication
But the blame does not lie solely at my feet
And I’m not the one being shitty
That really is the final word. I bid you all farewell.
And learn from my near fatal mistake of not sending a teams invite
Let me tell you the implications of this are absolutely …. Zero.
So glad to have filled up a five page thread though and kept you all out of mischief

Did you expect him to block out his whole day after 5(12)? Or his whole life as you didn't specify you would call him within this working day?

Dollysleftnip · 03/06/2026 12:32

DressOrSkirt · 03/06/2026 12:31

Did you expect him to block out his whole day after 5(12)? Or his whole life as you didn't specify you would call him within this working day?

Again you could equally apply the same to me couldn’t you? Should I be free after 12 for the rest of my natural existence?
but actually, yes, he could either take the Call or not. That would be entirely up to him given that he’s the one that wanted the meeting 🙄

OP posts:
DressOrSkirt · 03/06/2026 12:33

Dollysleftnip · 03/06/2026 12:32

Again you could equally apply the same to me couldn’t you? Should I be free after 12 for the rest of my natural existence?
but actually, yes, he could either take the Call or not. That would be entirely up to him given that he’s the one that wanted the meeting 🙄

Edited

No, that's why he expected you to call within 15-30 minutes after you confirmed your meetings were finishing then.

Dollysleftnip · 03/06/2026 12:34

DressOrSkirt · 03/06/2026 12:33

No, that's why he expected you to call within 15-30 minutes after you confirmed your meetings were finishing then.

You’ve missed the point of the other quoted post from me where I said I am no longer entering into correspondence 👍

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DressOrSkirt · 03/06/2026 12:35

Dollysleftnip · 03/06/2026 12:34

You’ve missed the point of the other quoted post from me where I said I am no longer entering into correspondence 👍

I didn't, your point was that you are always right

KnittyKnotty · 03/06/2026 12:39

Dollysleftnip · 02/06/2026 21:05

Would you be sat waiting by your phone at 5 o’clock for my call?
I’m trying to decide who’s being unreasonable, but I’m not prepared to run the Gaunlet of Am I being unreasonable?

I would advise my working hours are 9-5 and I'll catch you another day.

(Public Sector manager here and finally got to the end of my tether working 5 hours extra for free every evening finishing at 10pm not 5pm and put my foot down. If you want me or the staff I line manage to stay late, put the funds in my overtime budget first).

ZZTopGuitarSolo · 03/06/2026 13:44

Dollysleftnip · 03/06/2026 12:26

There was no implication on my part unless there was implication on his part. I cannot be assuming unless he is assuming so therefore in equal parts there’s been inadequate communication
But the blame does not lie solely at my feet
And I’m not the one being shitty
That really is the final word. I bid you all farewell.
And learn from my near fatal mistake of not sending a teams invite
Let me tell you the implications of this are absolutely …. Zero.
So glad to have filled up a five page thread though and kept you all out of mischief

This makes no sense at all.

Still, it doesn’t matter now - he’s had a near miss, and fortunately he won’t need to deal with you any more.

Lampzade · 03/06/2026 14:01

I would expect anytime between 5:05 pm to 5:30pm

JustGiveMeReason · 03/06/2026 15:50

Dollysleftnip · 03/06/2026 08:48

Just don’t really get this level of miscommunication with other women
Or if we do, it’s easily resolved and we all just move on
The way I see it to summarise and this will be my last post because I need to get on with the day
He wanted the meeting. He should’ve booked it in my diary to ensure that I was available.
At which point I would’ve declined it because I would not have been available and in front of my screen
And then none of this would’ve happened
But having got to this point where he was vague and then I responded vaguely
It should’ve been rebooked and the world would not have ended
Not that the world has ended
But he is being a bit shitty about it so we will not work together

and, from another of your posts

Whereas based on his communication I believe believed that any time after 12 would be fine.

Everyone else on this thread is able to understand that his initial offer if for you to let him know when you would be available during the hours after (his) 12 (your) 5. The expectation being you'd suggest a time in that window - between (your) 5 and whatever time you are reasonably expected to hold calls / meeting with colleagues or clients in the States. You implied you would call him after your meetings finished at 5, so if I were him, I would be expecting that call shortly after 5 - just as almost everyone on this thread has said.

It is nothing to do with being a man or being a woman.
As a pp has said, most of us replying will be women, and virtually everyone sees his point and would be annoyed with you.

JustGiveMeReason · 03/06/2026 15:53

KnittyKnotty · 03/06/2026 12:39

I would advise my working hours are 9-5 and I'll catch you another day.

(Public Sector manager here and finally got to the end of my tether working 5 hours extra for free every evening finishing at 10pm not 5pm and put my foot down. If you want me or the staff I line manage to stay late, put the funds in my overtime budget first).

But that presumably isn't the case for the OP, if she is working with people in the States, so not really relevant here.
Plenty of people who have meetings with people in different time zones will have working agreements in place to flex their time so that, as and when it is needed they can join meetings with those people.

purplecorkheart · 03/06/2026 15:56

I think you need to communicate clearer. If you said to me that you were in a meeting until 5 then I would expect a call near to 5. I would not necessarily expect you to go home before making a call. If you were planning on going home etc I would expect you to be precise with me and say I will call you at 6pm UK time rather than saying I am in a meeting until 5pm when that was not really relevent.

JustGiveMeReason · 03/06/2026 15:57

Dollysleftnip · 03/06/2026 12:32

Again you could equally apply the same to me couldn’t you? Should I be free after 12 for the rest of my natural existence?
but actually, yes, he could either take the Call or not. That would be entirely up to him given that he’s the one that wanted the meeting 🙄

Edited

Not really.
He has asked when would be good for you to have this call / meeting.
He's kicked off the question by saying he will be free from 5pm (his 12). You then had the choice to say
"I can call you at 6pm"
or
"I don't have any availability today, but could do tomorrow at 4pm (his 11am) if that suits?"

The bizarre thing is to say you were free from 5 but then not call for another hour.

However, not really sure why you asked as you are just being rude to everyone who hasn't agreed with you that this is your fault.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 03/06/2026 16:00

Dollysleftnip · 03/06/2026 12:24

Not really

Well it is your miscommunication. You were not clear at all to this person about the timing of the call. Judging from the many responses saying they agree with him there was a clear miscommunication here on your part.

Ilovemyshed · 03/06/2026 16:24

I’d have my phone nearby from 5 and if you hadn’t called by 6 pm, would assume you had forgotten.

TheGoodOnesAreAllGone · 03/06/2026 16:57

The fact that you mentioned being in a meeting until 5pm and would call after implies that's the first thing you would do after the meeting (excluding getting a drink, going to the loo, that would be tmi) I'd expect a call between 5 and 5.15pm.

It's a bit rude to expect someone to make themselves available for a whole hour to take a call. Why not just say you'd call at 6? Not great communication imo

nocoolnamesleft · 03/06/2026 18:20

OP: AIBU?
Almost everyone else: Yes, absolutely. This is why.
OP: No I'm not. I'm so not.
Almost everyone else: Yes, you are. Again, this is why.
OP: You're all meanies! Flounce!

Silverbirchleaf · 03/06/2026 19:18

nocoolnamesleft · 03/06/2026 18:20

OP: AIBU?
Almost everyone else: Yes, absolutely. This is why.
OP: No I'm not. I'm so not.
Almost everyone else: Yes, you are. Again, this is why.
OP: You're all meanies! Flounce!

Yes!

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