5 days in office

[ilovebrie8]

Would yo consider this 5 days in the office no hybrid working, a 40 hour working week 9 to 6 every day with an hour for lunch.

I've been hybrid for last few years and don't want to do 5 days on site...plus the longer hours.

Been looking for work for 8 months and it is dire...getting desperate....

Yes for everybody.

Literally everybody. Working culture has always changed and evolved.

Unless you think the work culture of 2026, Is the same as 1926, is the same as 1826…

”We used to…” is a demonstrably moronic thing to say as things change.

I did not say you have an apartment that takes 10 mins to vacuum.

You were the one who deemed confused as to how people can navigate chores around the workday while still being productive workers.

I was helping you through your confusion via examples.

What you regard as a “break” is really irrelevant to the point being made which you seem unable to grasp. People regularly take breaks from work in the office. They take breaks when wfh. Hiw they fill that break time is irrelevant - it still amounts to the same amount of time away from work activities.

If I needed a job, then yes.

My whole working life was working in the office, or in the store/restaurant wherever.

I have never had a job that entailed the option of WFH - I had to be present with other members of staff.

There may be some people who can not WFH - they might not have the space or peace and quiet to be able to do it. So for them an office based job would be preferable. Some people LIKE to have human connection too. I used to really enjoy going to work - to chat with colleagues and work as a team.

Call me an old fashioned but I'm glad I quit working in an office before Covid times as I always found it difficult to deal with those who were WFH - it wasn't always easy to get hold of them if necessary, jobs were not always completed on time.

Did you mean to be so rude?

I wouldn't take a job for someone who offered zero flexibility at this stage. Also, it would be nearly impossible for you to interview for other jobs if you are in the office 9-6 every day. It's only the hours lunchbreak that you can use for that and it's unlikely the interviews will be scheduled at lunchtime.

I just wonder why people wouldn't look it up. Even if we accept the principle that 2019 employment norms are somehow more important than those of the 2020s, millions of people were already working at least partially from home or had done so in the past. There is data.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/articles/coronavirusandhomeworkingintheuklabourmarket/2019

8.7 million people, a little under 30% of the workforce, already had some experience of remote work prior to covid. For obvious reasons they were concentrated in certain sectors. It was very much an established part of the working landscape.

Yes, most of my private sector clients had already started or even completed the move to 60/40 or 40/60 in the office long before covid. It was for good business reasons. Astonishingly they did not all collapse and fail - they saved significant costs and found that not only did they keep staff engagement at a level (the intent) but staff engagement improved and turnover reduced (additional saved costs).

It had nothing to do with love and fluffiness and “wokeness”, it was entirely business based and overwhelmingly a successful move.

I’ve spent my career working in flexible models and watched as clients followed the trend. There is nothing remotely new about this, just the fact that improved technology is a key enabler and was before covid. It was the public and quasi public sectors which were behind (as usual) and need to update their processes and work models (often kicking and screaming). Its a model which can expose poor quality management quite quickly.

no point in arguing.
the op's job offer, the first in 8 months, is not WFH

Obviously. But if there was enough point in wider discussion for you to weigh in with vague predictions, there was enough point for other people to contribute too.

me vague predictions?
where?

i am able to go by my own data.
personally, wfh is vaguely promised, never happens, they actively want people back in the office,
as this job offer shows
you may be alright Jack but not everybody is,

You wrote 'and the future is not hybrid working'. That's a vague prediction.

As to your second point, your own data doesn't outweigh that of the ONS. You replied to a post about how remote working was well established in 2019, which it was. Things you think are happening in 2026 are a different point again.

who cares
this particular job is not wfh
so all your data in the world does not help

You clearly cared enough to reply.

It's not up to you to decide whether there's any point in wider discussion of remote working or not, especially when you've participated in it already. And obviously it isn't just about this particular job either, because OP is still thinking about whether a hybrid role is realistic- she specifically mentions other options she's considering.

I already do this and it is fine!

Worth suggesting a 30 min lunch and 1730 finish though?

I worked hybrid before Covid, it’s not a new thing! I’ve not worked a full week in the office since about 2010.

I wouldn’t take a job with no flexibility. Personally I don’t want to work in the office FT even if the office is just across the road, so I wouldn’t apply for it. It’s the employer’s choice to only offer that but, as they are seeing, it puts people off. But the real red flag for me is the lack of flexibility, that signals an inflexible and rigid attitude from senior leaders (culture is set from the top) which is never fun.

Three months notice is loads, ask for one month. It's usually shorter while you are on probation anyway, and it's also difficult for employers to enforce notice periods of mote than a month, particularly if it's not a senior role and there is no justification.