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DH workday annual leave underwent termination balance

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terminated2024 · 29/07/2024 14:08

DH underwent a PIP and was told during a PIP review meeting that he had failed the PIP (no review, just told that it was based on feedback from 'stakeholders') and it was being moved to Performance management Panel who would decide the outcome. Yes he can be fired but that is one of the list of different outcomes i.e. no action, extend PIP, first warning, second warning, termination. He was not told he was going to be fired.

However he has logged into workday and it states that the balance has been adjusted- action is called termination adjusted balance. And its dated on the day of PIP review meeting

He has lost his job hasn't he. but why have they not told him formally.

DH thinks it is to frustrate his unfair dismissal claim as there is a 90 day period where you can file the claim.

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cryinglaughing · 29/07/2024 14:11

It certainly sounds like his employment has been terminated.

Has he been into work since his PIP review meeting?

terminated2024 · 29/07/2024 14:15

cryinglaughing · 29/07/2024 14:11

It certainly sounds like his employment has been terminated.

Has he been into work since his PIP review meeting?

Yes for a week. He has been into work daily and nothing communicated to him

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BestMammyEver · 29/07/2024 14:17

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terminated2024 · 29/07/2024 14:19

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9 months.

They can terminate him, but i don't understand not telling him. At least there should be a verbal communication followed by a letter saying last day.

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BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 29/07/2024 14:21

What discrimination is his unfair dismissal claim based on?

terminated2024 · 29/07/2024 14:21

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 29/07/2024 14:21

What discrimination is his unfair dismissal claim based on?

He hasn't made one yet, but i think they are not telling him so if he does file one, it would frustrate it.

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CantHoldMeDown · 29/07/2024 14:28

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BleachedJumper · 29/07/2024 14:29

I think @BaronessEllarawrosaurus was asking on what grounds is your husband basing the unfair dismissal upon?

Currently, I believe he has to demonstrate that he has been dismissed due to a protected characteristic, such as disability or race.

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 29/07/2024 14:29

But on the information you've given he can't make an Unfair dismissal case as he hasn't worked there for 2 years so why would they even be trying to frustrate it?

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tbh the main subject of the thread was relating to them adjusting his balance and not telling him that he is terminated.

but manager has on multiple occasions made comments on his relatively young age.

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terminated2024 · 29/07/2024 14:31

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 29/07/2024 14:29

But on the information you've given he can't make an Unfair dismissal case as he hasn't worked there for 2 years so why would they even be trying to frustrate it?

or maybe they just want to throw him off the guard? what is the rationale for not telling someone they have terminated his employment and he has to find out from workday?

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CantHoldMeDown · 29/07/2024 14:32

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terminated2024 · 29/07/2024 14:34

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is it even possible to do it by accident?

I doubt it.

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CantHoldMeDown · 29/07/2024 14:35

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BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 29/07/2024 14:35

The problem is that he isn't coming across as a reliable narrator with his comments about them doing this deliberately to frustrate him taking them to a tribunal for unfair dismissal when he wouldn't be able to anyway. I'm wondering if he's really listening to what he is being told

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FriendlyNeighbourhoodAccountant · 29/07/2024 14:42

I agree it just sounds like poor admin. HR has terminated him on Workday thinking management has terminated his employment but management hasn't got round to doing it yet.

And as a pp explained, unless he's been discriminated against due to a protected characteristic he can't bring an unfair dismissal claim until he's been employed for 2 years so I don't think they're doing anything to frustrate the 90 day process.

terminated2024 · 29/07/2024 14:48

FriendlyNeighbourhoodAccountant · 29/07/2024 14:42

I agree it just sounds like poor admin. HR has terminated him on Workday thinking management has terminated his employment but management hasn't got round to doing it yet.

And as a pp explained, unless he's been discriminated against due to a protected characteristic he can't bring an unfair dismissal claim until he's been employed for 2 years so I don't think they're doing anything to frustrate the 90 day process.

how can HR not know, they were in the same meeting as him. Unless it was some outsourced HR in india...

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BarcardiWithGadaffia · 29/07/2024 14:49

Even if they were trying to frustrate a claim how would they not tell him for over 90 days? He wouldnt just keep on turning up for the next three months with no job to do would he and no one would say anything ?

terminated2024 · 29/07/2024 14:50

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 29/07/2024 14:49

Even if they were trying to frustrate a claim how would they not tell him for over 90 days? He wouldnt just keep on turning up for the next three months with no job to do would he and no one would say anything ?

he has a job to do. His manager is not really talking to him much but he has work to do and deadlines to deliver on.

In fact his line is manager is away for 1 month and he is covering her work.

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terminated2024 · 29/07/2024 14:53

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the performance management panel? Dunno.

He had a PIP review meeting where he was told he hadn't passed the PIP and would be progressed to performance management panel where he can appeal if he disagrees with the decisoin

There is a flow chart on the process.

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