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thirtyseven37 · 13/05/2024 17:58

45 hour week for £26,700 per annum: thoughts please....?

This seems like a very long week to me (I'm moving from part-time to full-time so it's a bit of a shock!)

OP posts:
L4815162342 · 13/05/2024 22:14

It makes it £13.79 an hour.

L4815162342 · 13/05/2024 22:15

Full time equivalent would be about £32200

atticstage · 13/05/2024 22:17

thirtyseven37 · 13/05/2024 20:59

Really? According to google, if you work a 9 hour shift, you're supposed to have a 45 min break

Google is not a reputable source. Whereabouts on Google did you see that?

According to Acas, that's wrong:

https://www.acas.org.uk/rest-breaks

"If someone works more than 6 hours in a day, they have the right to a rest break of at least 20 minutes.

These rest breaks should be:

planned in advance
taken during the working day, not at the start or end of the day

If they work more than 6 hours, there's no automatic right to more breaks. For example, a 12-hour shift does not mean they're entitled to a 40-minute break, but the employer should consider it."

The right to rest - Rest and breaks at work - Acas

The daily and weekly rest breaks an employee is entitled to.

https://www.acas.org.uk/rest-breaks

Medschoolmum · 13/05/2024 22:17

Minimum wage for 45 hours per week would be £26,769.60.

So, they have either made a mistake in telling you that the lunchbreak is paid. Or that is the pro rata salary for a term time only job, and proper full time equivalent would be more. Or they have failed to update the salary in line with the new minimum wage. Or they are just breaking the law.

I would ask them. It clearly isn't right as it stands.

Medschoolmum · 13/05/2024 22:19

Oh, I missed the bit about 43 weeks a year. That's different then because it isn't really a FT salary!

thirtyseven37 · 13/05/2024 22:22

L4815162342 · 13/05/2024 22:15

Full time equivalent would be about £32200

45 hours a week seems pretty full time to me 😄

OP posts:
Anniecott · 13/05/2024 22:23

I do 47hrs a wk for £23,795, no lunch breaks, so yes I'd be happy with that 😆

LeopardPrintIsNeutral · 13/05/2024 22:23

You’re working just over 82% of the year. So whilst the hours in term time are long, you aren’t working at all for 9 weeks.
Your WTE salary would be about 32k which is competitive.

LeopardPrintIsNeutral · 13/05/2024 22:26

thirtyseven37 · 13/05/2024 22:22

45 hours a week seems pretty full time to me 😄

As annualised hours go it works out your 45 hours over the 43 weeks could be spread out to be 37.2 hours over 52 weeks. However the paid lunch breaks make up over 107 hours a year too

PineappleBanana · 13/05/2024 22:30

thirtyseven37 · 13/05/2024 20:55

Legally, for a 9 hour shift there would need to be a 15 mins break too

No there wouldn’t. That would be covered by the lunch break.

Medschoolmum · 13/05/2024 22:34

LeopardPrintIsNeutral · 13/05/2024 22:26

As annualised hours go it works out your 45 hours over the 43 weeks could be spread out to be 37.2 hours over 52 weeks. However the paid lunch breaks make up over 107 hours a year too

In other words, the hours are no longer than the average FT job, just compressed into a shorter time frame. With the unusual bonus of paid lunchbreaks.

Pay is around £13.80 an hour, so not great but above minimum wage.

Hollyhocksarenotmessy · 13/05/2024 22:43

thirtyseven37 · 13/05/2024 20:59

Really? According to google, if you work a 9 hour shift, you're supposed to have a 45 min break

Google's full of people posting shit. Working time regulations, actual law is that if you work more than 6 hours, you get a 20 minute break, as statutory minimum. Unless you are very young, then it's 30 mins.

penjil · 13/05/2024 23:38

thirtyseven37 · 13/05/2024 20:52

It's a paid 30 min lunch break

Are there any other breaks?

As having 1 x 30 mins break in a 9 hour day is illegal.

penjil · 13/05/2024 23:39

PineappleBanana · 13/05/2024 22:30

No there wouldn’t. That would be covered by the lunch break.

No, you're incorrect.

A 9 hour day needs more than just a 30 mins lunch break.

Another 15 mins break is needed too.

penjil · 13/05/2024 23:43

Anniecott · 13/05/2024 22:23

I do 47hrs a wk for £23,795, no lunch breaks, so yes I'd be happy with that 😆

Whaaaat?! That works out about £10 per hour. That's not even minimum wage?

Are you in the UK? Because if you are , that's illegal.

Medschoolmum · 13/05/2024 23:59

penjil · 13/05/2024 23:39

No, you're incorrect.

A 9 hour day needs more than just a 30 mins lunch break.

Another 15 mins break is needed too.

What's the evidence for that?

The OP is working an 8.5 hour day. I can see nothing that would entitle her to more than a 20 min break, though most employers would typically allow 30 mins unpaid.

thirtyseven37 · 14/05/2024 00:12

The shift is 8-5 which is 9 hours so that requires a 45 min break within that time frame.

OP posts:
anothermnuser123 · 14/05/2024 00:32

Is £26700 your actual pay or is that full time equivalent? Because I have a friend that works in a school, sounds very similar to you, working with children that require medical care and medicines, barely earns over minimum wage. She had her wage advertised as a full time wage, but her actual earnings are less than that because she only earns for 40odd weeks a year.

So if the £26700 is your actual pay, on full time earnings that would be more so seems reasonable, but if its £26700 IF full time (so would be scaled down to the 40 or so weeks) you will get far less. The best thing to do is ask for the hourly wage.

thebestinterest · 14/05/2024 00:33

thirtyseven37 · 13/05/2024 17:58

45 hour week for £26,700 per annum: thoughts please....?

This seems like a very long week to me (I'm moving from part-time to full-time so it's a bit of a shock!)

Yes, very low.

anothermnuser123 · 14/05/2024 00:36

thirtyseven37 · 14/05/2024 00:12

The shift is 8-5 which is 9 hours so that requires a 45 min break within that time frame.

That shift would entitle you to a 20 minute break as a legal minimum and as far as im aware, it doesnt have to be paid either.

Hollyhocksarenotmessy · 14/05/2024 06:48

penjil · 13/05/2024 23:38

Are there any other breaks?

As having 1 x 30 mins break in a 9 hour day is illegal.

Please stop making things up. Well, okay, maybe you do really believe this, but it's just something you heard somewhere, or maybe it's what happens at your workplace or has been union-negotiated for your industry. None of those things make it the law.

Posts like this are why the OP said 'Google says...'. it's spreading misinformation and it's really annoying as there are plenty of credible sources easily accessible online. People have posted links on this thread to the actual government's actual guidance on the actual law, FFS.

Hollyhocksarenotmessy · 14/05/2024 06:50

thirtyseven37 · 14/05/2024 00:12

The shift is 8-5 which is 9 hours so that requires a 45 min break within that time frame.

Aargh, no it doesn't. Look at one of the links on this thread to the legal requirement - or do you trust some random bloke at the pub over the government guidance on the law.

You don't have to trust me or anyone else on this thread when we say 20 minutes, but at least look at a credible source for yourself.

Or, go on then, post your own link to a credible source saying anything different, I double dare you.

Lovinglife57 · 14/05/2024 06:54

It's the same as mine pro rata you get paid holidays I get 16 weeks a year so brings hourly rate down

ItsFuckingBoringFeedingEveryoneUntilYouDie · 14/05/2024 07:27

Medschoolmum · 13/05/2024 22:34

In other words, the hours are no longer than the average FT job, just compressed into a shorter time frame. With the unusual bonus of paid lunchbreaks.

Pay is around £13.80 an hour, so not great but above minimum wage.

Exactly. This role is compressed hours to fit around term times. 43 weeks of 45 hours work is roughly the same hours as 52 weeks of 37.5 hours work.

If the advert is worded as being 26700 for a 43 week year, it is fine. Because it has been pro rated.