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HR question: Probation extended after deadline

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WanOvaryKenobi · 27/08/2023 16:32

Hello 👋,

Seeking a bit of advice here.

I started a new role 14 weeks ago that has a three month notice period. The contract wording is:

"Your probationary period is specified in section X (which says 3 months). Should either you or the company wish to terminate your employment during your probationary period, the notice required will be one week. Your probationary period may be extended at the direction of the company."

The notice period beyond probation is 3 months.

So this week my manager informed me that my probation was to be extended, 2 weeks after the 3 month probation period.

I have to be honest I was completely blindsided by this as I have a weekly 1-2-1 with this person and there has never been anything negative raised. Yet at my last meeting they announced that they still needed more time to decide, and in particular I needed to finish a strategy document, and a few issues with my "engagement" and "not being bubbly enough". Again, nothing along these lines has ever been raised in any of the 12 previous 1-2-1s.

As for the strategy document I was told to put it to the side for a few weeks to focus on bigger projects that had tight deadlines. I was never informed that passing my probation was contingent on completing this strategy document. In fact the opposite, I have been told that it is not a priority. If I had been informed of the consequences on my probation I would have worked a lot more extra hours. I'm also just shocked that there have been any issues with my performance or attitude as this has never come up before.

I now have a few questions as a one week notice period is extremely stressful.

I basically want to know if they are able to extend my probation period after the deadline has ended, and with no prior warnings or written confirmation. I have still not been asked to sign anything and some of the feedback, like being "bubbly" and "engaged" feel a bit like subjective measures to improve on rather than concrete achievements, and again these issues have never come up before. So it is not a clear performance improvement plan or official document and I don't want to be blindsided again.

I am also wondering if they do try to sack me if I am entitled to three months notice/pay. I have been looking at other cases and it does seem to me that they have to inform you before the probation period has ended if they are going to extend. Also, my contract does not say I need verbal or written confirmation when this period has passed so it feels like this is done automatically.

Any advice? Thanks.

OP posts:
Woush · 24/09/2023 14:59

What us your working assumption on why the HR bod has gone (but not the manager)?

That your manager had grounds for extending probation but HR gave poor guidance to manager on how to action that?

Or that HR advised manager there was grounds for extending probation when there wasn't?

WanOvaryKenobi · 24/09/2023 16:03

Manager is still there as they are launching an investigation.

I think the HR person has left as there seems to be a massive company wide issue with culture and I have a theory they want out before shit hits the fan. This is based on the timing of all this, the CEO holding an emergency town hall about bullying, and the job posting wanting specific experience with grievances, disciplinary action, employment law, and succession planning.

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Foreverhope1 · 11/10/2023 10:23

Hi OP,

Checking in to see how you're doing. Hope you're ok.

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WanOvaryKenobi · 11/10/2023 16:31

Hi all,

Not an awful lot to report at the moment. The company have been dragging their feet then went on the offensive. I've been speaking to a solicitor about it who is going through my options. I've decided to go anyway so trying to negotiate for PILON so we can all just move on.

OP posts:
Newestname002 · 11/10/2023 17:03

Keeping fingers crossed for you @WanOvaryKenobi 🌹

WanOvaryKenobi · 25/12/2023 16:04

Hi all. The company decided to settle with me after I raised a formal grievance with a solicitor. Merry Christmas xxx

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theconfidenceofwho · 25/12/2023 16:11

Hope you got a decent settlement Op & are having a lovely Christmas!

AspiringToBlueBeanbagHood · 25/12/2023 16:25

Sounds like a win OP. You'll be better off out of there!

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 25/12/2023 16:40

I’m really pleased they settled with you after you raised a formal grievance with a solicitor. Well done to you and the solicitor for not rolling over and leaving and getting nothing.

Have they agreed a dates worked reference too? They can be arsey about doing this I think but should give you this. Also, I’d be careful that they don’t try to give you a bad or unfair reference (I had this once with a firm I’d worked at for 6 years, near perfect work record) when I started to look for another job an agency I used to look for work showed me a tick box exercise where my employers had marked good/ok/excellent for everything but honesty which was strange as I’d always been honest!) luckily I saw an employment solicitor and they agreed to give me a dates reference and I could’ve taken it further but didn’t, just got another job.

Happy Christmas and onwards and upwards!

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