WWYD work increasing my responsibility

[Pizzaonthebeach]

Hey MN. I am new to this so please go easy 😊 my employers are increasing my responsibility at work by giving me charge of another team. They are making the other person redundant and I will their team and my own. Both teams will do different kind of roles and I will oversee both. It all seems great and I am up for the challenge however they have not mentioned an increase in salary. The new role will mean extra pressure, hours, travelling etc. WWYD? Would I seem unreasonable to expect a salary increase with some kind of travel allowance or should I just be grateful I still have a job? I am truly torn. Honest opinions are really needed as I don’t want to make a fool of myself by asking something unreasonable. Thank you

I would ask it in a naive way. So like “since it’s a bigger team and more travel do I get a travel allowance for that or anything, just wondering how to budget for this extra fuel usage in my family budget spreadsheet. Regardless.. excited for the new challenge, just trying to be prepared for any new pressures”

I could never see a man posting a reply such as Louisetrees - surely you just enquire about the remuneration package for the new role? You don't have to phrase it as if you'll walk if there's no money!

This is something I would love to know how to respond to in a professional way. Totally agree with the difference between how a man and a woman would respond, we’re so conditioned not to assert ourselves in this way.

Sorry I disagree with the above. You need to ask them straight. I'd say 'ok, thank you for your belief in me giving me this extra responsibility. I'll certainly do my best. Will there be an increase in salary to reflect the new responsibilities and pressure?'. Don't apologise or dance around it. A man wouldn't.

Definitely ask for a salary increase, in a friendly, open way.
Perfect time and they will be expecting it.

OP, please ignore the first comment. You'll just sound like a silly little child. Women seem to be terrified of speaking up and end up putting out some garbled, be kind, just asking "tinkly laugh" nonsense.

By friendly and open I would say something like "so what kind of salary increase were you thinking to go with the new enhanced role"? Then you get to consider their offer. If it's not big enough you can say you were hoping for more, given x, y and z...
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Read this and go from there

www.glassdoor.co.uk/blog/guide/how-to-ask-for-a-pay-rise/

Don't ask "is there a salary increase", that gives them the option to say no! Ask "what's my new salary for this expanded role / new responsibilities" as that sets out you're expecting more and you can negotiate. Ask the question, then stop ... don't waffle to fill the inevitable awkward silence. Silence is a powerful negotiation tool as someone always wants to fill it - make sure it's them!

@PizzaonthebeachJust I would be upfront and ask what the new package is, don't be apologetic about asking. "Such a great opportunity, what the salary will be for the new expanded role?". If you push and they still say "no", ask for a date for a review - eg after 3 months in the role.

I assume they are saving £30/£40/£50K etc on the role they are making redundant, so yes they should give you more money. It does sound like a good opportunity, so I think you should say yes, but it could be lots of hard work (learning the new area, taking over management of the other team), so make sure you are being paid to deal with this!

Good luck.

I strongly agree with @WotsitWiggle - don't ask IF there will be a salary/package increase, assume that there WILL be one and negotiate how much. Ask higher than you expect to end up with. If in doubt how to respond to anything they say, allow there to be silence - they'll look to fill it.

"So, with this promotion and extra responsibility, what's my new package?" Just ask. If they come back with anything not positive, "Well I understand previously this was the work of two people, so there must be something you can do as recompense for my extra work"

Yes to above comments.
Keep it simple and straightforward. Ask what your new conditions, salary, job title are going to be. And then keep quiet and let them talk.

So sorry for the late reply, I have been flat out today! I really appreciate the comments. I am not the “say it out there” kind of person and prefer a softer approach. So I will defiantly phrase it like some of the suggestions. I get the whole bit about how a man would say it - is girls do have a habit of beating around the bush

@Pizzaonthebeach

Just remember they are asking you and will be looking to make a saving of £thousands from making the other person redundant. Definitely do ask them what your enhanced salary package (so not necessarily just the extra cash) would be, taking into account they will now have one person doing two people's jobs.

Do not undersell yourself, OP. This is business - not personal. Check external rates for the job if necessary. If they name a figure which is not what you want (do some calculations beforehand) name a higher figure. You can always negotiate down (a little) if they baulk - and hopefully both sides get a "win". Much harder to negotiate up afterwards ...

Good luck.🌹