Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Work

Chat with other users about all things related to working life on our Work forum.

Why do people work part time ? I've never understood it...

540 replies

mozhe · 17/05/2007 00:45

I never have, but lots of colleagues in NHS did....you end up doing 3/4 of the work for 1/2 the salary, and get passed over in the promotion stakes...And have you noticed that it's nearly always women who do this ? Why ? I actively discourage junior staff from doing this but lots seem to....

OP posts:
plummymummy · 17/05/2007 18:05

you're

MaryHinge · 17/05/2007 18:16

Speedy's post should be quote of the week.

Me? I work because I need the money and my brain needs the exercise. I work part-time because I don't need to kill myself working full-time. Simple.

mozhe · 17/05/2007 18:55

I don't understand why some people are hurling abuse at me, but heigh ho...try and adress some points.
Aloha- I discourage junior staff from rushing into these decisions, just as I often advise patients to think twice before giving up work, because I often think it is not in their best interests. However if a male member came to me and suggested he cut back on his hours so that he could take more hands on responsability a home...I don't work just to line my pocket but £££s do come in handy if you are trying to bring up,( nearly ), 6 children.It's my responsability to try and earn as much as I can.
Hulababy-My children keep very different hours to yours so I do see them a lot more than you would ....there are different patterns to family life.Here in France the children in the maternelle,( nursery school ) are encouraged to sleep in the afternoons, mine do and so go to bed quite late.Also we get up erly,( so they'll be ready for that nap...) and try to do a family activity before work/school...even just walking the dog, or fetching the bread together....more ambitiously a swim.
Cammelia-It is not distressful that's the important thing....a bit of stress is good for most of us.
Twiglett-People like me do exist,( I know plenty, and perhaps if you are honest you do too ? ). I do not know many SAHMs however so perhaps they don't really exist...after all I find it hard to believe people would throw away hard earned education and rights,( won for us by previous generations...), to stay at home all the time, dependant on another adult economically whilst they are perfectly capable of working themselves.I don't think it's a good idea, but of course people can do it if they want.
Go on have a dig a psychiatrists....you may need one, one day..mostly we are decent folk.
Right I'm off to bath with the babes , who incidentally I saw at lunchtime today,which we had in a cafe due to it being nanny's birthday...

OP posts:
hatwoman · 17/05/2007 19:00

I haven't read everything. but quite a lot. and I would firstly like to thank Mozhe for starting the thread - as ever daft questions have produced some fine mn wit.

second - I have a part-time dh. as it were. and I know a couple of others. I also know a couple of men who work p-t for non-kid related reasons. they're not even fathers. they just made the sensible choice that 3 or 4 days a week was adequate to meet their financial needs and whatever other satisfaction they get from work and that they'd rather spend the rest of their time doing other stuff.

third I think to actively discourage women from working p-t is incredibly patronising and presumptious. You might give your opinion as to the career and/or family and/or other implications and offer the benefit of your own experience but to "discourage"? How unbelievably presumptious.

Tamum · 17/05/2007 19:06

I am coming to this very late but I do it because I want to. I want to work. I want to spend plenty of time with my children. I have certainly not been passed over for promotion. I earn plenty. I also like it because I have set an extremely useful precedent for other people at work who want to go part-time; there are lots of us now. Because weirdly enough I understand people's desire to spend time with their children and I try and help wherever I can as opposed to talking them out of it. It's a total no-brainer for me.

hatwoman · 17/05/2007 19:10

I cross posted then - seems Mozhe you have refined "actively discouraging" into advising them not to rusch into decisions - two very different things.

as for throwing away hard earned education that's bad enough of sahms but can you explain in what way p-t workers have thrown away their education?

and I think Mozhe, the reason people are annoyed is that by declaring that you don't understand it you're not opening up a debate and seeking to understand rather you seem to be implying that as an intelligent educated person it's incomprehensible to you - and therefore, somehow, wrong, misguided, an unintelligent choice. maybe we read too much into your op, but that really is how it comes across

Blandmum · 17/05/2007 19:10

mozhe, I was a sahm for a while. I didn't 'throw away' my edication, I used it for something different for a little while.

And when my children were older, retrained and now do something different.

I get huge intellectual satisfaction from my work, and emotional pleasure from my family. Both benefit from my part time position.

VeniVidiVickiQV · 17/05/2007 19:14

It's not always a matter of choice.

FioFio · 17/05/2007 19:16

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn

hatwoman · 17/05/2007 19:19

sorry mb but am I allowed to snigger at not throwing away your edication . bet you any money I've made a typo in this...

Blandmum · 17/05/2007 19:20

can't type. Can teach ;-)

Good eddikayshun as well.

DaddyCool · 17/05/2007 19:24

work blows.

PrincessPeaHead · 17/05/2007 19:37

I couldn't be more chilled. Any more chilled and I might possibly never even raise an eyebrow again.
Which is why I couldn't give an arse about how anyone else chooses to live their life and think that people who demand that everyone thinks and acts in their own image are necessarily suspect. A psychiatrist who does so... well, it's all been said already, really. I promise you Mozhe, I do sincerely hope I never need one

hatwoman · 17/05/2007 19:38

is blowing a good or bad thing?

PrincessPeaHead · 17/05/2007 19:44

bad I think

but could be good

DC is clearly trying to erect a smokescreen to hide his true views

VeniVidiVickiQV · 17/05/2007 19:54

I totally mis-read that as "blows work"....

Something on my mind? Absolutely NOT.

missmarpleofgoogle · 17/05/2007 19:55

in answer to the op..

have you googled this question?

edam · 17/05/2007 19:59

'Bugger [my] comment', Twig? Am confused.

Wasn't aware of any history with Mozhe so am trying to read her posts in a neutral manner.

tigermoth · 17/05/2007 20:02

All very interesting. Well, my part time colleage will be coming into work all five days this week to keep up with her so called 'part time' workload, and still only being paid for three days. She's only popping in for a few hours on her two days off, but still, she's coming in. I talked to her about it but she feels obligated. That's not good, is it?

Not her fault at all for choosing to work part time. I would have done exactly the same if I had two under fives and a husband who could support the family enough for me to work part time. Our manager is personally very supportive of part time working, often leaves early to see his son then works at home in the evening. I think that because he is so understanding, and my collegaue is so nic, that she feels impelled her to come in on her days off.

I suspect that for him, as a manager, it is extra stress to have to part time workers in the team. Without enough staff in our team to cover the work comfortably, any deviation from a monday to friday working pattern complicates matters - the phone rings, messages have to be taken by other members of staff, meetings have to be postponed, there are natually question marks as to what needs doing in someone's absence, there are more briefings as work has to be handed over more frequently.

My colleague working part time does not affect me much. We are short staffed, true, but of course that's not her fault.

But I think it must be more difficult for a manager to manage part timers and so I wonder if mozhe's desire to tell junior staff not to cut their hours has a selfish motive - managing lots of part time workers, all with different days on and off, must be harder for her, perhaps?

MrsDiorKeanuReeves · 17/05/2007 20:09

I work 4.5 hours a day, four days a week, term-time only, although I actually try to go in at least one day a week during the holidays - for my sanity!

I LOVE my job. I needed to work because being a housewife was making me crazy. I have a brain and I need to use it for more than cryptic crosswords and planning the next shopping list. I used to see friends every day, but it was NOT ENOUGH. With hindsight, I can see that I was hating every minute of it and bored stiff.

I am lucky that my sister recommended me for the job and that my boss recognised my brain. He has given me more responsible work and utilised the skills I developed in my old job, and he feels that he has a member of staff who can be allowed to get on with her work and be relied on to be a professional. He recognises my experience and skills, which is wonderful after 5 years at home.

My job does not impact on my ds or h as it is within school hours. I can be off if ds is ill too.

Did I mention how much I LOVE it too...

NomDePlume · 17/05/2007 20:13

Mozhe is a senior psychiatrist ???

surely that means that she has at least a vague understanding of the human psyche ?

Chica · 17/05/2007 20:22

Strikes me that the originator of this thread is trying to wind up a lot of mums! As a fanatic of part-time i can't believe that any mum would WANT to work full-time if she had the option of part-time. Let me clarify - I am talking about women who are in a situation to choose i.e. p/t is available, pays enough to get out of bed, is supported in her choice and CAN AFFORD to do that. Kids are only kids for a short time, your working life stretches ahead of you, even if there are delays or detours along the way. However I am sure that most of us have been in the position where we needed to work full-time financially. In that case there is no choice. Now that I have an option Iknow what i would rathe do.

SuperSleuth · 17/05/2007 20:23

Frightening, isnt it?

VoodooMama · 17/05/2007 20:28

I am delighted that my job is letting me go part time I start after 12mths mat.leave on sunday, cant wait to get stuck in.

I would hate to work full time now I have my baby at home, I think I will get the best of both worlds.

Chica · 17/05/2007 20:31

By the way regarding SAHMs throwing away their education. I am a SAHM , qualified accountant with diploma in Mgt, MBA and studying MSC Finance. Personal choice to stay home with 20 month old for next few years - not throwing anything away, actually gaining precious time with ds and 2 older kids after school. Could work f/t or p/t earning a decent amount however that will not bring back time with my kids. I have admiration for f/t mums as it is not easy I used to do it myself and know it is a personal or necessary choice.Each to their own as they say. When I return to work it will be on a p/t basis as much for kids as for myself, home and dh.