Slight moral dilemma. Will it affect application?

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Hi, I just applied for a job online and got a callback from a recruiter. The job application fid not state that it was being advertised via a recruiter (found on Indeed.com). I got a callback immediately from the recruiter asked a fee questions to check my experience and then said he would call me back once he has got in touch with the company.

Now, here's my dilema. He told me the name of the company and I can see they advertise the position on their website. I thought this odd if they are using recruiters. I am concerned that a recruiter will call them up and they will say no recruiters and my application will never be considered. (I used to say this to recruiters in my previous role when we advertised jobs on wevsite) Is this a daft thought? I am really tempted to apply direct through the company website, but will this go against me?

Advice from anyone would really help me!

What I mean is does it look terribly unprofessional to agree to a recruiter submitting my cv (even though I've not signed up to his company) AND then submit to the company directly?

I would just submit to the company directly if that's what they state on their website.

I think it might make you look a bit scatty, as if you aren't keeping track of your applications. It might make you look less serious. I don't have any helpful advice though, sorry!

Tell the recruiter you no longer want them to forward your cv, then do it yourself

I dont have the recruiters phone number so I can't contact them. Otherwise thats a great idea.

Did you ask the recruiter if he had been engaged by the company?

It is what they state on their website. Hmm, I think I might fo for it. Assuming the worst is I look a bit scatty I am sure I can convince them otherwise...

No I didn't Bluntness. This is my lack of experience in using recruiters!! Damn!

I didn't want to go through or sign up to a recruitment agency anyway and had I thought the job was being advertised by a recruiter I wouldn't have applied through the site. Hmm!

TBH I wouldn't think badly if I ended up with 2 copies of your application - I'd say go for it and apply by both methods. Good luck

Ok thats all I needed to hear!! Thanks trevor

I would apply directly. You could always put in your covering letter that you found the job via x to cover yourself.
Tbh I'd assume I'd printed the application out twice by accident if I ended up with 2 copies.

I think the issue would be between the company with the vacancy and the agent who could argue the referral was through them. It shouldn't be your battle to fight but it would be worth you making sure the advert on Indeed.com is direct from the company not the agency. Just to cover yourself and ensure it doesnt detract from your fabulous CV . Submit your CV to wherever the address is on the advert

fab. Let us know how you get on NSEA

It may actually be that the employer would prefer your application NOT to come via a recruiter as they won't have to pay commission.
As long as you have not signed to say they can represent you then yiu should be ok

Recruiters sometimes send speculative CVs to companies who are advertising positions, despite not having been engaged by the company. They'll black out your surname/contact details so that if the company likes the look of you, they'll have to work with the recruitnent agency in order to reach you. My company never accepts unsolicited CVs from random recruitment agencies, however- they are deleted straight away, without being read.

Some companies choose to use selected recruitment agencies to do their vetting and sifting. We sometimes do. If it's the case here, it'll look odd if you apply directly - as if you're trying to cut out the agency.

I'd apply directly with a note about how you found the role, as Muddling suggested.

Definitely don't say you found the job via the recruitment company! The employer may then be liable to a finders fee or other agency fees if they recruit you and they won't want the hassle (or your wages might reflect having to give the agency a cut)

Recruiters sometimes send speculative CVs to companies who are advertising positions, despite not having been engaged by the company. They'll black out your surname/contact details so that if the company likes the look of you, they'll have to work with the recruitnent agency in order to reach you.

yep this is fairly common - whenever I've advertised roles and we state clearly that we won't work with agencies who aren't on our preferred supplier list (PSL) we still get calls from agencies insisting they have a perfect candidate.

If you're new to the online search game be aware as well that you'll often find the same job advertised multiple times by different agencies and on different search engine. Often a bit of googling can throw up who the actual company is and then you can see if you can apply direct.

To be fair recruiters aren't all bad - if they've actually been engaged by the company or have a relationship with them they will take a lot of the legwork out of the process for you and can be a help when it comes to negotiation.