Happy birthday GG!

That is quite something. Who knew 😵‍💫

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Thank you. I will need those next time I am talked over. They won't last long. 😘

JB is an activist and was seriously targeted about a decade earlier than GG iirc. GG has a much higher profile and ‘national treasure’ status, and isn’t that keen schlepping about doing speaking gigs anyway from what I hear. She’s an author first and foremost and at retirement age, so she has less need to be on the platform or in the media, but maybe could have made some more documentaries which she was turned down for, I don’t know if that’s the case.

JB had to keep getting out there for her activism. I agree with you that she has been compromised - I even have a recollection of her saying that Ros Kaveney is “lovely” even though RK plotted her demise with Sarah Brown. But I don’t think she had it easier than GG. She also was really frustrated that no one, for years, came out and publicly supported her - she was quite isolated in that regard.

Having said that I bluddy love GG and take it personally if she is criticised (I even got kicked out of an online group, and was gutted about that, for sticking up for her).

I doubt she'll read this, if it's her birthday I hope she's getting spoiled and/or getting pissed, but

Happy Birthday Germaine

Have you seen her in 'The Orville'? Was such a wonderful surprise to realise it was her.

This was meant to be a quote reply to Beastly!
Anyway. Happy birthday Germaine!🥂

Happy birthday to Germaine Greer. What a woman.

Excellent analysis.

but I have always tried to borrow what you might call more female techniques such as controlling by silence, waiting for people to finish.

Ah yes, this well-known biological female feature. In fact, when assigning babies as male or female, don't midwives check to see which kind of speech patterns the babies use?

Sex and gender, it's so confusing which is which! Particularly if you have what you might call a female brain!

My father exercised coercive control of my mother via silence.

It’s a very male technique, imo.

GG has a much higher profile and ‘national treasure’ status

She did, @EndlessTea. Past tense.

I don't say that JB had it easier - they are really in different spheres - but GG was unpersoned and JB was not. I know JB's story is that she was banging this drum for years and no one supported her but it looks to me more like she was quite happy to play the media game and only really got her head round the trans stuff when other major players did. She certainly wasn't speaking the plain truth on it like Germaine was.

Having said that, I'm glad she spoke so firmly on this issue and I agree that "I don't care" is absolutely the right stance to take.

No - what's The Orville? (Surely nothing to do with the puppet...)

Brilliant Seth MacFarlane parody/homage to Star Trek. There was a whole appreciative thread on it on here.
Highly recommend Beastly

www.disneyplus.com/en-gb/series/the-orville/xJDRPuAtRWxz

Thank you. Interesting read.

Fab, thank you!

JB had a link on her twitter to and article she wrote in 2004 for the Guardian (imagine) about gender and lesbians. I linked it on the general conversation thread. I was impressed she was writing about it 20 years ago, around the time of the GRA I suppose. If GG was warning us further back than that then she was prescient indeed and I wish more people had listened.

I hope I can learn more about the history of this, when it is history.

The Whole Woman came out in 1999 and GG covered it there. The writing was on the wall and she did warn us.

And Janice Raymond wrote The Transexual Empire in 1979.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Transsexual_Empire?wprov=sfla1

Robin is wearing a mini skirt and manspreading...

And Janice Raymond was even more prescient in 1979 with The Transsexual Empire.

Snap! And reading that Wikipedia article (I should have known better) it looks like the usual suspects have been on the editing case.

Was just about to say The Whole Woman!

But I didn't know that JB had written on this in 2004. It was later than that when she told Paris Lees that men could be lesbians so I assumed she had been mostly ignoring it before then. I know she apologised to him for her previous comments on gender so maybe that's what she's referring to.

Anyway, good to see her on GBN saying sensible things. I am going to put aside my personal dislike of her and try to take her on face value for what she says from now on. We all make mistakes, after all.