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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The "so what can we actually do" thread...

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ImSoNotTelling · 25/05/2010 17:18

Hello

Following on from the thread about changing the law on rape to grant anonimity to the accused, a few people have started to think about what we can do to get involved, to actually try and change stuff.

So I guess this thread is for suggestions, ideas, and for people to link up to actually try to change things.

So far we have someone possibly standing for pariament!

So come on everyone.

What's the plan....

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msrisotto · 26/05/2010 10:20

Love the slogan "I believe you", so poignant.

Also, as Richard Dawkins pledged to give up to 5K to the Athiest campaign, perhaps we could find a similar sponsor. The Athiest campaign didn't need his donation though as they made so much out of public donation.

If a site could be set up, linked to by all the other feminist websites as there are alot of them, and then a justgiving page to donate to I really think we could launch a campaign ourselves. I'd love to be involved if you want.

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ImSoNotTelling · 26/05/2010 10:24

Yes means yes is good.

I think what we need to do is think about

  1. Who we are aiming this at. Victims of rape? Women? Teens? Everyone?
  1. What it is for. To dispel rape myths? As a rescource for people who have been raped? Somewhere that people can talk about rape? Are we lobbying? All of the above?

Basically we need a very clear remit, and be focussed, so that we all know what we're doing and what goes up on the site. We can always start small, with one clear aim, and see where we go from there.

Also "I believe you" - yes it's a great slogan. But who is "I"? Is it us? the website? The slebs that we are going to find? What about teh police? I mean they're the ones that matter.

We need to get all this nailed

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msrisotto · 26/05/2010 10:28

I think it should be aimed at enlightening the public generally, exposing rape myths ad bringing the reality of rape to the forefront.

The good thing about "I believe you" is that it could be anyone and everyone. Giving the illusion that everyone is behind this is the best lobbying tactic to change public opinion.

vesela · 26/05/2010 10:30

I would say to dispel rape myths and to support rape victims.

"I believe you" is both addressed to rape victims and is a way of saying to society "I don't believe rape myths."

Allidon · 26/05/2010 10:32

I agree mrsrisotto. There is that knife campaign where people took pictures of their backs, turning their back on knife crime. Perhaps the "I believe you" part could aim to include celebrities and police officers holding the sign, as well as members of the public?

msrisotto · 26/05/2010 10:35

Ooh good one Allidon, like the 'turn your back on page 3' campaign has pics of people with the slogan written on their backs!

Bus campaign is a really good idea and pretty achievable i reckon, just need someone who knows how to design a website, i'd give it a go esp as the domain names are that cheap and it's easy enough but i don't have a clue tbh.

ImSoNotTelling · 26/05/2010 10:36

Totally agree it should be about enlightening the public generally. I think we need to absolutely ensure that our messages are accesible to boys and men as well. I think that is vital - not least because rape is a problem for the whole of society, not just a "womens" problem. And of course men are the ones doing it. We need to catch em young if we can.

So we have pics of slebs saying "I believe you". POlice people saying it. I mean some people from teh bloody sapphire unit ought to be persuadable.

Getting the people to do it will be hard. And we need to do it in a way that's not too similar to the "this is what a feminist looks like" campaign.

And we have "exploding rape myths" stuff as well.

Getting a bit ambitious here but if this happens and grows, I think we should think about getting into schools.

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Prolesworth · 26/05/2010 10:36

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ImSoNotTelling · 26/05/2010 10:43

CBS handles outdoor advertising for TFL arriva etc

it costs a bomb

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msrisotto · 26/05/2010 10:47

How about a domain name something like "Stop Rape Myths"?

LadyBiscuit · 26/05/2010 10:47

This is the debate of the day on Grazia apparently (yes I'm a follower ) so I've tweeted them too

ImSoNotTelling · 26/05/2010 10:48

Ads on the tube are more affordable

here

Tube Car Panels

£20.00 per site, 2 weeks

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msrisotto · 26/05/2010 10:49

The Athiest bus campaing managed to get £150k by asking people to donate a fiver and getting the odd sponsor...maybe we could set up a justgiving page, when we have our shit together website wise, and see what we get?

Prolesworth · 26/05/2010 10:51

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LadyBiscuit · 26/05/2010 11:02

It does and we can design them ourselves - I can dust off my photoshop skills. There are free photo libraries which is probably the best place to get images of all sorts of women

ImSoNotTelling · 26/05/2010 11:02

I hope I haven't read that wrong, but £20 for 2 weeks seems like good value. I always read tha ads on teh tube too.

For domain name, I really like stoprape (.co.uk or .com?)

it is easier for people to remember (and spell!) than stoprapemyths, shorter, punchier. Also if we decide to do other things we wont be limited by the domain name IYSWIM

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ImSoNotTelling · 26/05/2010 11:08

just remembered that I know a company who will host small websites for free, their costs for larger ones a competitive

i use them for the one i made recently

they don't sell domain names though so we'd need to buy the domain and then we could host it for free to start with

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Prolesworth · 26/05/2010 11:13

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sethstarkaddersmum · 26/05/2010 11:14

I think it would be wise to get both as otherwise someone could buy whichever one we don't get and use it to undermine the campaign.

fab thread btw.

msrisotto · 26/05/2010 11:14

I reckon .org but don't really know why.....it sounds like what an organisation should have!

Prolesworth · 26/05/2010 11:22

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msrisotto · 26/05/2010 11:27

Woohoo! Well done Prolesworth! We're on our way!

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