This is terrorism

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https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16271651/amp/Police-investigate-threat-murder-doesnt-support-trans-rights-sent-nurses-centre-hospital-changing-room-case.html

Police are investigating a chilling death threat sent to a group of nurses who campaigned to stop a transgender colleague using their changing room.

Officers have made an arrest after a man told the women – who won a high-profile tribunal case earlier this year – he was going to come to their hospital and ‘murder whoever doesn't support trans rights’.

A photograph of a large kitchen knife was attached to the email, which insisted it ‘isn’t a joke’ and warned ‘I know the address’ of where they work.

The same person is also thought to have sent Facebook messages to the gender-critical trade union group the women set up, telling them ‘the world would be a better place without your bigotry’ and ‘maybe you should kill yourself’.

When the death threat was discovered last week three of the NHS staff had to be escorted to their cars by security guards at Darlington Memorial Hospital, and seven of them stayed away from their workplace while waiting for police to act.

This is disgusting but, sadly not surprising, behaviour, threatening these women for trying to regain their legal rights.

Given it has a political agenda, I'd say yes it is. These women have suffered enough.

I think we need to wait for the full story to come out to determine whether this is a lone individual or part of a group. Bash Back have gone a bit quiet recently but this looks like exactly the sort of person who would be groomed to become a TRA. Obviously his learning difficulties didn't prevent him sending a death threat by email.

The suspect's mother said he has learning difficulties and is an ‘extremely vulnerable adult’.
‘He is absolutely distraught,’ she told the Daily Mail.
‘What’s happened is he was angry and frustrated but he doesn’t mean intent.
‘He doesn’t understand the nature of his words because he doesn’t have capacity.’

To misquote Mandy Rice-Davies, she would say that, wouldn't she.

Another day, another shining example of why some women don't want men in our spaces.

This is trans activism.

It really is.

And just goes to show how brave all the women are who waive their anonymity to stand up for our rights when it matters.

It's amazing how many of these men become 'vulnerable' when they are caught doing appalling things.

They have no idea what vulnerable means.

"Vulnerable" and "Dangerous" are not mutually exclusive. Far from it.

Exactly right. A man with learning difficulties is just as capable of harming a woman, in fact they're more likely to go too far with their actions because they don't have the capacity to understand when they've gone too far. No nought her son is distraught because he's now in trouble, but the effect on these women was just the same either way.

If he doesn’t have capacity to know that emailing threats to kill people is wrong why the hell has he got unsupervised access to the internet?

Well quite, and I blame both his parents for that, not just his mother.

This must be very stressful for these women.

And people question why women don’t speak up or don’t spreak up under their own name.

In the light of Ann Widdecombe’s murder they will have had every reason to be seriously afraid.
I hope this is taken seriously.

Bloody hell, what a nightmare all round. Possibly a sadly predictable nightmare, it's not as if no women have been trying to get this taken seriously.
Now women are having their lives turned upside down and subject to anxiety and fear regardless of what is going on with the one making the threats

Then it ends up being someone with learning difficulties that makes it even worse, who or what the hell has he been talking to and looking at?

I'm not saying this man had been exploited or bears no responsibility, I don't know, but I find this so very very disturbing. I have a DS who I realised very early on was going to need to be kept out of the mental health system and out of prison. He was at one time at risk of being manipluated, it would have been so easy for someone to do if they had been able to have access to him. People who are knowing and manipulative can push people like my son into doing things for them and taking the rap while the manipulators just carry on.
The time and effort put into monitoring and screening and intepreting for him everything he was exposed to was my life for years. I am so angry that this man has ended up making threats to women, so angry.

"He doesn’t understand the nature of his words" - of course he does. Would've had no reason to send the e-mail if he hadn't meant it as a threat.

Very pertinent to those women who lost their tribunals. Their names are out there now - and the colleagues who didn't join them had in all likelihood been frightened into taking no action.

If his mother is right, then he needs to be kept off the Internet and looked after as you would look after a child.

He managed to overcome his learning difficulties enough to compose his messages and send them to the correct addresses so they would be seen by the women he wanted to terrify.

There's a boy recently who stabbed a girl multiple times because she rejected him, and he also injured the shopkeeper who tried to stop him. He got a slap on the wrist because the judge said he was smart. The traveller boys who raped some young girls got their wrists slapped because of their learning difficulties. What is the IQ that would see men and boys appropriately punished?

Yes, it's ridiculous. Either he doesn't have the capacity to have any kind of unsupervised autonomy, for his own safety and the safety of others, and he should never even have had the chance to do this.

Or he's responsible despite his own difficulties and knew well enough what he was doing. Nobody attaches a picture of a knife to an email with threats about knowing where someone works at bloody random.

I understand his mother wants to stand by him and finds it hard to see past his struggles to the actual harm he's done, but it's not an excuse.

Removing access would be considered a Deprivation of Liberty. I'm not saying that is right but that is my understanding from being involved in a similar case, i.e. adult with a learning disability using email/social media for death threats. In that case the threats were not credible

Maybe @TransParentlyAnnoyed can tell us why death threats are okay?

The internet can be a danger for people who are easily misled, likely somebody has been goading him into these actions because they won't put themselves in danger but they're happy to use other people. Maybe a brush with the law will mean he'll never do this again

He's going to murder any woman who won't take her clothes off for a man on demand.

Well I suppose at least the mask's right off now, let's be honest about what these demanded 'rights' actually entail. And the kind of man who wants them.