Draft Conversion Practices Bill - Oral Evidence 29/10/27, 12.15pm

[ImNotAsCooperativeAsYouMightWantAWomanToBe]

This will be worth watching on Thursday. It will be on Parliament TV.

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I agree. But it's not going her way. " our" side are very able.

Is DK thinking about criminalising parents who take their children abroad for PBs?

Good call.

I took as he was indirectly referring to taking your child abroad from the UK to have their penis removed.
Edited to add. Currently if you " mean well" and think you are helping child it wouldn't fall under child cruelty legislation anyway as there is seemingly no intent there to harm.

Chap behind DK is annoying me.

DK - there is a problem with word 'abusive' in this context. This word is used differently . If you don't use pronouns, some say this is abusive. Others say not.

DK - because 'abusive' isnt' settled in criminal law, I don't know how judges/jury can deal with it. Can't leave poltiical opinion at door. So incoherent, so poorly drafted, cannot be rescued. One useful alternative is to look at tweaking other acts, and/or approaching same ways as racial aggravation.

HJ - Bill unusual in not having a list of defences.

What a contrast to the Stonewall crew. Totally able to answer clearly and directly.

HJ Schools and workplaces mean people have to acknowledge sex.

HJ - it is other people's right to say what they see, or to refer to biological sex. This law comes up against freedom of belief, other human rights.

Who is the bloke behind Dennis who keeps smirking & shaking his head?

DK - Article 8, 9, and 10 at risk. 14, bill discriminates against gc people.

Who is the man behind DK who keeps shaking his head and rolling his eyes?

DK showing how incompatible bill is in comparison with human rights articles.

DK - bill ripe for a certificate of incompatibility.

He's brilliant !

Don't know but he's very irritating.

Joanna Cherry at the back behind the guy shaking his head, Fiona MacEnana and Maya Formatter also in the audience.

I could cry with relief at how shit hot they are.

'identity formation is not a one off event' - LGB man, can't recall his name

How is a patent supposed to know where an identity stops and starts? DK

DK asks why sex orientation definition is clear and stable from the EA, but gender identity is not.

Shaking head man looks like a bit of a tit.

HJ talks about the difference between EA and criminal law.