NHS guidance on the provision of single-sex services and facilities - BMA Statement

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NB extracts only:

Since the April 2025 Supreme Court judgment on the definition of sex under the Equality Act 2010, the BMA has been deeply concerned about the potential harms that the ruling would have on our trans and non-binary members, colleagues, patients and wider community.

We are deeply concerned that this high-level guidance will result in local policies that are exclusionary to trans and non-binary staff and patients. It will affect their ability to access and work in the NHS and have negative consequences for cisgender people. We are calling for urgent clarity from NHS England on how employers can implement the guidance in a way that is safe and inclusive of trans and non-binary people, who are already one of society’s most marginalised groups and who are becoming ever more fearful of harassment and discrimination when accessing healthcare

Cisgender people, often women who do not meet society’s narrow expectations of femininity, are already finding they are being challenged when they try to access the single-sex spaces the guidance would expect them to.

Any revision of policies or services must be done in collaboration with trade unions and the trans and non-binary workforce and must be compatible with the NHS Constitution and the Equality Act and Human Rights Act.

Full statement: https://www.bma.org.uk/news-and-opinion/statement-nhs-guidance-on-the-provision-of-single-sex-services-and-facilities

What a load of bollocks.

Cisgender people, often women who do not meet society’s narrow expectations of femininity, are already finding they are being challenged when they try to access the single-sex spaces the guidance would expect them to.

Total bollocks. Their records from birth will show that they are women.

How do you meet the needs of women for single sex provision (which of course is not mentioned, women as half the population are entirely missing from this statement) without excluding men?

And why must policies be created with trans identified men and not with women? It's women's spaces, facilities and services we're talking about.

The BMA has been a clown show for a while. The misogyny is so ingrained it's appalling.

Ffs. It's like going back in time.

It's over guys. O.V.E.R.

Never seen a non-gender conforming woman who could be confused with a man, even with haircuts and clothing normally favoured by men. So the whole thing about it negatively affecting 'cis' 🙄 women is just risible.

This is bollocks. My hair is very short due to chemo and on only one occasion has this arisen. I was in a public loo with my back to the door and a woman came in with a grandchild, did a double take, went back to check the sign on the door, realised I was female and came in. No one was offended and I didn't care

I don't understand how medical doctors can spout such bullshit and use nonsense phrases like "cisgender" 🙄

Tell me you’ve drunk the kool aid without telling me you’ve drunk the kool aid 🙄

On the other hand, I’ve just been on a medical chat board where the majority are applauding JKR’s latest statement.

Because these are the activists who get elected to the committees and dominate the discussion. The rest of the doctors are getting on with medicine. It’s like a lot of unions and membership organisations. They go to the branch meetings, they get elected as an officer, they get elected to the conference, they get elected to the Executive Committee, they make policy which their friends at Conference approve and then they claim to represent the membership.

Just look at the Green Party’s vote on Zionism.

And the hard left wing join and infiltrate because they care more about being left wing than about terms and conditions of members.

I have watched it happen so many times in over 30 years ago. The only way to stop it, is for the doctors who don’t believe in breaking the law to organise and get themselves elected to stop the shit show.

Being fair to these loons (the BMA lost my respect when they started to advocate statins for every person in the UK over the age of 12), women in boiler-suits with crew cuts were being questioned if they went into the ladies as long ago as the late sixties.

The exchange would go, roughly,

Q: "Excuse me, are you in the right loo?"
A: "Yes, I'm a woman."
Q: "Oh, sorry."

Funny how nobody seems to have been deeply traumatised by this.

Just a reminder of who the chair of the BMA is

There just may be a clue there as to why like most other unions, the BMA is captured

Why are they worrying about the non-binaries? They must currently be using spaces that don't align with their gender and that won't change under the guidance

This is why my DH left the BMA

What hapoened to "Do No Harm"?

I can understand why some trans identifying males do feel unsafe in male spaces. I dont agree that accomodating them in female spaces is the answer.

I do not unfetstand why professionals feel their right to identify how they wish is more important than a patients wish (and right) to have single sex care.

What the actual? This is nuts.

Lets look at who exactly is affected by this?

Men who will be blocked from chaperoning other men
Men who will be kept out of female wards
Men who want to watch female staff undressing in the changing rooms

Just when everyone else is becoming acquainted with reality…

Ah, of course it is women that the BMA activist ideologues are concerned about. Tots not disingenuous.

I see that they are pushing for guidance on how to implement the NHS England guidance on how to implement the EHRC guidance on how to implement the Supreme Court judgement.

Can I get ahead of the game and demand guidance on how to implement any further guidance on the NHS guidance on the EHRC guidance on the Supreme Court judgement?

Clearly it is unreasonable to expect anyone to implement any guidance about guidance about guidance without guidance on how to do so.

These people are deluded and their contempt for women, both staff and patients, is beyond belief.

But for some reason, what gets my goat every time is the 'unworkability' "argument". 🙄🙄🙄 There aren't enough eyerolls.

It's like saying that the legal requirement not to steal is unworkable for thieves.

Cisgender people, often women who do not meet society’s narrow expectations of femininity,....

Is being born a woman too narrow a definition of feminity?

We're into social story territory at this point. While holding an emotional support gerbil.

"Sometimes other people have rights as well as me. This is ok."

Absolute nut cases. They are so far out of step with their members and the general public.

My mature, thoughtful and measured response to that is… you can fuck right off you sexist, misogynistic pricks. All unions are useless now.

This is why my DH left the BMA

This is why I left the BMA. I told them why too but never got a response.