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The kind of “girl” that a boy who identifies as a girl thinks he is

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MyAmpleSheep · 18/10/2026 14:49

How do people who celebrate the transitioning of five year old children know that the kind of girl a boy who identities as a “girl” identifies as is the same kind of girl that a girl who identifies as a “girl” is?

Other than than from what he sees girls doing, how can a boy “know” what being a girl is, to be sure he is one?

is it posited that there is an innate sense of boy:girl that exists outside of the experience of seeing and being the presence of others?

If a child was “raised by wolves”, could they be trans? If that child had a male body and reached the age of 20 never having seen or met or known of the existence of women is it possible for them to grow up with dysphoria? When eventually discovering the other sex would they suddenly recognize “they had been born in the wrong body”?

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OldCrone · 19/10/2026 21:18

Lacksie · 19/10/2026 19:15

It's not a misunderstanding at all. In order to know that you feel the same way as someone else feels, then both parties need to be able to describe the same experience in similar ways..

Your stuck in the same loop.

" In order to know that you feel the same way as someone else feels, then...."

you don't need to know what anyone else feels that's the entire point.

Cognition doesn't work like that - it's 'thinking' that takes place in your own brain, it doesn't depend on knowing someone else's internal experience.

A chromosome is a chromosome. Your knowledge of your chromosomes is a cognition generated in your brain. It can develop through social learning—you know what a chromosome is because someone explained it to you—but having that cognition doesn’t depend on knowing what someone else’s internal experience of thinking about their chromosomes is like.

Gender incongruence is a neurocognitive/psychological condition whereby a person’s internal recognition or representation of themselves as male or female does not correspond with their physical anatomy.

The person is not deluded about what anatomy they have, but despite this anatomy, their internal perception/ recognition of self remains persistently at odds with those physical characteristics.
This is not something that a person can typically control, and it doesn't require knowing how other people experience being male or female.

Now you might say that this cognition has developed because the person has learned that girls like dresses, and they like dresses. But that is a different proposition from a claim that it requires insight into how someone else experiences being a girl. It doesn't.

And that explanation - the role of stereotypes - cannot simply be assumed because it seems intuitive to you. It does not account for trans girls who don’t have stereotypically feminine likes, preferences or interests. Having stereotypically feminine interests is not the same thing as recognising oneself as a girl. A trans girl can understand perfectly well that boys can wear dresses without that resolving her incongruence. She might not even like dresses.

And if you listen properly to accounts of gender incongruence, a recurring theme is not “I’m a girl because I like playing with dolls”, but a direct recognition of self. A conversation like the one I had with my 4 year old earlier this evening is much more typical-
"how do you know you are girl?"
"I just know it".
"because I am"
"I feel it in my body"
"I see it".
If you tell a gender incongruent child - "you can be a boy and play with dolls, where dresses, be whomever you want to be!", she is likely to reply:
"I know I can. But I'm a girl".

There is also research relevant to claims that gender identity is simply a matter of stereotypical interests or being socially recognised as a boy or girl.

Gülgöz et al. (2019) measured children’s identification as boys or girls separately from their preferences for toys, clothes and playmates. They found similar variation among both trans and cis children: some girls had strongly stereotypically feminine preferences, while others did not. Being a girl, or identifying as a girl, and liking stereotypically feminine things were not interchangeable.

Olson and Enright (2018) found that trans children endorsed fewer stereotypes and were more accepting of gender non-conformity than gender typical comparison children.

Rae et al. (2019) assessed gender-nonconforming children before some later socially transitioned. Those who subsequently transitioned had already expressed stronger identification with the other gender before changing names or pronouns. Their identification therefore preceded their social transition.

None of these studies settles how gender identity develops ofc. But they challenge the simple assumptions that a child identifies as a girl because she likes “girls’ things”, or because other people started calling her a girl.

The more of your posts I read, the more confused I am about what you think a 'trans child' is.

It's not stereotypes.

It's not wanting the body of the opposite sex.

It's just an internal feeling of 'being' the opposite sex.

Is that accurate?

Imdunfer · 19/10/2026 21:19

Lacksie · 19/10/2026 19:15

It's not a misunderstanding at all. In order to know that you feel the same way as someone else feels, then both parties need to be able to describe the same experience in similar ways..

Your stuck in the same loop.

" In order to know that you feel the same way as someone else feels, then...."

you don't need to know what anyone else feels that's the entire point.

Cognition doesn't work like that - it's 'thinking' that takes place in your own brain, it doesn't depend on knowing someone else's internal experience.

A chromosome is a chromosome. Your knowledge of your chromosomes is a cognition generated in your brain. It can develop through social learning—you know what a chromosome is because someone explained it to you—but having that cognition doesn’t depend on knowing what someone else’s internal experience of thinking about their chromosomes is like.

Gender incongruence is a neurocognitive/psychological condition whereby a person’s internal recognition or representation of themselves as male or female does not correspond with their physical anatomy.

The person is not deluded about what anatomy they have, but despite this anatomy, their internal perception/ recognition of self remains persistently at odds with those physical characteristics.
This is not something that a person can typically control, and it doesn't require knowing how other people experience being male or female.

Now you might say that this cognition has developed because the person has learned that girls like dresses, and they like dresses. But that is a different proposition from a claim that it requires insight into how someone else experiences being a girl. It doesn't.

And that explanation - the role of stereotypes - cannot simply be assumed because it seems intuitive to you. It does not account for trans girls who don’t have stereotypically feminine likes, preferences or interests. Having stereotypically feminine interests is not the same thing as recognising oneself as a girl. A trans girl can understand perfectly well that boys can wear dresses without that resolving her incongruence. She might not even like dresses.

And if you listen properly to accounts of gender incongruence, a recurring theme is not “I’m a girl because I like playing with dolls”, but a direct recognition of self. A conversation like the one I had with my 4 year old earlier this evening is much more typical-
"how do you know you are girl?"
"I just know it".
"because I am"
"I feel it in my body"
"I see it".
If you tell a gender incongruent child - "you can be a boy and play with dolls, where dresses, be whomever you want to be!", she is likely to reply:
"I know I can. But I'm a girl".

There is also research relevant to claims that gender identity is simply a matter of stereotypical interests or being socially recognised as a boy or girl.

Gülgöz et al. (2019) measured children’s identification as boys or girls separately from their preferences for toys, clothes and playmates. They found similar variation among both trans and cis children: some girls had strongly stereotypically feminine preferences, while others did not. Being a girl, or identifying as a girl, and liking stereotypically feminine things were not interchangeable.

Olson and Enright (2018) found that trans children endorsed fewer stereotypes and were more accepting of gender non-conformity than gender typical comparison children.

Rae et al. (2019) assessed gender-nonconforming children before some later socially transitioned. Those who subsequently transitioned had already expressed stronger identification with the other gender before changing names or pronouns. Their identification therefore preceded their social transition.

None of these studies settles how gender identity develops ofc. But they challenge the simple assumptions that a child identifies as a girl because she likes “girls’ things”, or because other people started calling her a girl.

you don't need to know what anyone else feels that's the entire point.

You do if you want to claim that you feel like you are one of a group of other people. You have to be able to compare and contrast yourselves with others in that group.

Otherwise the statement "I feel as if I am a woman" carries no more weight than the statement "I feel like I am a banana".

A chromosome is a chromosome. Your knowledge of your chromosomes is a cognition generated in your brain. It can develop through social learning—you know what a chromosome is because someone explained it to you—but having that cognition doesn’t depend on knowing what someone else’s internal experience of thinking about their chromosomes is like.

What on earth are you going on about!? I am talking about genetic science where we know what genes do what job. I'm taking about facts like knowing as a woman with autoimmune diseases I was more likely by far than a man to get those diseases because I have two X's and he has only one. And he still has only one no matter how ill at ease he feels about his body or how convinced he is that he is actually female. Nothing in this debate is about how anyone feels about genetics.

As far as the studies you have quoted, I don't accept studies which start from the point of view that children can be gender "non conforming" because in order to define a child as gender "non conforming" to put them into the study you have to have already imposed gender stereotypes on children, which I think is unacceptable.

HenriettaSwanLeavitt2 · 19/10/2026 21:22

Any child who has reached an age when they can state whether they are a girl or a boy has been exposed to years of stereotyping and expectations and observations of what the words girl and boy mean to all the adults and children around them. It is not possible to state that gender incongruence is experienced or developed independent of these factors.

Zbcdeg · 19/10/2026 21:26

@Lacksie you wrote “”Alternatively you could always engage with what I've actually written, and we could have an actual conversation””
I read your posts , I regularly ask you questions in order to clarify and understand your opinion or put alternative views to you to consider- you regularly fail to answer.

NotBadConsidering · 19/10/2026 21:40

OldCrone · 19/10/2026 21:18

The more of your posts I read, the more confused I am about what you think a 'trans child' is.

It's not stereotypes.

It's not wanting the body of the opposite sex.

It's just an internal feeling of 'being' the opposite sex.

Is that accurate?

And this is the best any of them can ever come up with. And as I posted, an expression of such from a child is ample enough for puberty blockers to be given on request.

The entire basis of medicalisation of children is “the child thinks it, the child says it out loud, and we block puberty.”

That’s it.

And people are still in doubt this is one of the greatest medical scandals ever perpetrated.

HenriettaSwanLeavitt2 · 19/10/2026 21:48

@Lacksie There is no basis for excluding this possibility for how gender identity develops.

You don't sound so certain about the neurobiological/psychological body-mapping hypothesis now. Have you reverted to PP's scientific approach of 'you can't rule it out'?

Zbcdeg · 19/10/2026 21:54

@NotBadConsidering so true. Even if we all believed that trans was implicit, trans people are born trans and never desist from this idea of self and that there were never any confounding factors , why would attempting the impossibility of changing their biological bodies in a mimicry of the desired sex via hormones or surgery be the way forward?

ArabellaScott · 19/10/2026 22:02

Lacksie · 19/10/2026 20:45

'Developmental theories do not simply treat children’s identification as boys or girls as a deduction from stereotypes.

yes there's a long standing literature on this. Some classic papers:

  1. Ruble, D. N., Taylor, L. J., Cyphers, L., Greulich, F. K., Lurye, L. E., & Shrout, P. E. (2007). The role of gender constancy in early gender development. Child Development, 78(4)
  2. Martin, C. L., Ruble, D. N., & Szkrybalo, J. (2002). Cognitive theories of early gender development. Psychological Bulletin, 128(6), 903–933.
  3. Martin, C. L., & Ruble, D. N. (2010). Patterns of gender development. Annual Review of Psychology, 61, 353–381.

you are always talking about gendered souls, I have no idea what you mean by it.

You appear to be positing that children are born 'knowing' that they are one gender or another, without any reference to stereotypes.

I assume this means you are positing that we all have an inner innate gender that we are born with, that is not influenced by upbringing, conditioning, or societal context.

Thus: 'gendered soul'.

HenriettaSwanLeavitt2 · 19/10/2026 22:03

If one is pushing a brain body-mapping theory, independent of social learning, then one is basically saying that very small children are defining their 'gender identity' according to their genitals, because, pre-puberty, genitals are the only obvious difference that a 'gender incongruent' child will see between their body and their body map. It is that focussing on children's genitals and how children feel about their genitals that is a massive red flag to me.

Fidgetbreak · 19/10/2026 22:38

@Lacksie

"Gender identity is simply the brain's awareness and recognition of oneself as being a particular sex."

"If you recognise yourself to be female, that recognition is your gender identity. That's all the term describes."

"But gender identity is sex identity. It refers to a person's recognition of themselves as male or female. That's precisely what the concept describes."

"There is no 'objective' way to feel male, and recognising oneself as 'male' doesn't involve imagining anything about what someone else's experience of being male is."

Based on these quotes, I'm curious about the purpose of gender identity as a category, in your view.

If gender identity is simply a persons awareness of their sex, and there is no objective way to feel either sex. A person can identify as anything for any reason at any time.

What is the point of a category called gender identity that has no objective definition?

Do you think gender identity should be seen as more important than sex in any circumstances?

JanesLittleGirl · 19/10/2026 22:55

JanesLittleGirl · 19/10/2026 20:27

So we're now in the realm of Cartesian philosophy. "Cognito, ergo sum." "I think that I'm a boy, therefore I am a boy". Who knew that children that can barely cope with "fish fingers or chips?" have such towering intellects?

I know that this post was slightly tongue in cheek but there is a serious point.

@Lacksie is proposing that small children are asserting that they are not their biological sex and that this should be respected. Lacksie goes on to suggest that a small child who conforms to every norm of their actual sex but insists that they are the opposite sex should have that view respected.

How is that child's view different to imagining that they are a dinosaur/rabbit/elephant?
Small children imagine many things as they work out how reality works. They are wrong when they are certain that they are a frog. They are just as wrong when they are certain that they are the opposite sex.

Happily, small children forget all the nonsense that they created as they made sense of the world. Unhappily, some adults use these imaginary constucts to fuck kids over.

It's a massive piece of engineering to come up with the gender incongruent child who's only incongruence is to say that they are the opposite sex but doesn't display any incongruent behaviour.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 19/10/2026 23:21

JanesLittleGirl · 19/10/2026 22:55

I know that this post was slightly tongue in cheek but there is a serious point.

@Lacksie is proposing that small children are asserting that they are not their biological sex and that this should be respected. Lacksie goes on to suggest that a small child who conforms to every norm of their actual sex but insists that they are the opposite sex should have that view respected.

How is that child's view different to imagining that they are a dinosaur/rabbit/elephant?
Small children imagine many things as they work out how reality works. They are wrong when they are certain that they are a frog. They are just as wrong when they are certain that they are the opposite sex.

Happily, small children forget all the nonsense that they created as they made sense of the world. Unhappily, some adults use these imaginary constucts to fuck kids over.

It's a massive piece of engineering to come up with the gender incongruent child who's only incongruence is to say that they are the opposite sex but doesn't display any incongruent behaviour.

This likely comes from those with zero insight into children. They will likely never have birthed a baby, never parented, nurtured, loved and cared for a child. Children (much like women) exist to these trans extremists only as subjects for experimentation. Distant beings who can be weaponised to promote queer theory and the notion that sex can be changed and men are women etc etc.

On a thread about 5 year olds it's very revealing that so much narrative is about adult demands / beliefs / theories. If you have children, have care for children or are concerned about children then you'd understand concerns about safety and safeguarding. If they're just a word on a page so to speak, there's no insight or empathy for their age and needs. Their just there to serve a purpose. Lab rats if you like.

Lacksie · 20/10/2026 05:26

Imdunfer · 19/10/2026 21:19

you don't need to know what anyone else feels that's the entire point.

You do if you want to claim that you feel like you are one of a group of other people. You have to be able to compare and contrast yourselves with others in that group.

Otherwise the statement "I feel as if I am a woman" carries no more weight than the statement "I feel like I am a banana".

A chromosome is a chromosome. Your knowledge of your chromosomes is a cognition generated in your brain. It can develop through social learning—you know what a chromosome is because someone explained it to you—but having that cognition doesn’t depend on knowing what someone else’s internal experience of thinking about their chromosomes is like.

What on earth are you going on about!? I am talking about genetic science where we know what genes do what job. I'm taking about facts like knowing as a woman with autoimmune diseases I was more likely by far than a man to get those diseases because I have two X's and he has only one. And he still has only one no matter how ill at ease he feels about his body or how convinced he is that he is actually female. Nothing in this debate is about how anyone feels about genetics.

As far as the studies you have quoted, I don't accept studies which start from the point of view that children can be gender "non conforming" because in order to define a child as gender "non conforming" to put them into the study you have to have already imposed gender stereotypes on children, which I think is unacceptable.

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You do if you want to claim that you feel like you are one of a group of other people. You have to be able to compare and contrast yourselves with others in that group.

I'll try again.

You’re trying to appeal to a rule that someone must satisfy to make a meaningful or truthful claim about themselves:
"you can’t claim to be a girl unless you know what being a girl feels like."

But what you’re still failing to grasp is that when a gender-incongruent child says “I am a girl”, they aren’t making a philosophical claim about what it means to be a girl, they are simply describing the reality of their own subjective psychological experience. There's no use telling them they can't say this because it doesn't make sense- it's the reality of what is happening in their brain.

Consider a child who says, “I’m hurting.” You wouldn’t respond that they can’t claim to be in pain unless they know what pain feels like to other children. You recognise that they’re communicating something they are directly experiencing/ feeling.

Of course, the child needs to acquire the language and concepts necessary to identify and communicate that experience as “pain”. But acquiring those concepts doesn’t require access to anyone else’s subjective experience of pain. Indeed, such access is impossible.

The same distinction matters here. A child needs to acquire the concepts of “boy” and “girl” to articulate their experience of gender, but it doesn’t follow that the experience itself is derived from comparing their subjective feelings with those of other people, or that they must know what being a girl feels like.

The child might experience a persistent sense that they are a girl, that being regarded as a boy feels wrong, or that being recognised as a girl feels right. They can describe these experiences using concepts acquired through social interaction without having any
concept of what being a girl is supposed to feel like, or what it feels like for other girls.

StealthTroublemaker · 20/10/2026 05:31

Lacksie · 20/10/2026 05:26

You do if you want to claim that you feel like you are one of a group of other people. You have to be able to compare and contrast yourselves with others in that group.

I'll try again.

You’re trying to appeal to a rule that someone must satisfy to make a meaningful or truthful claim about themselves:
"you can’t claim to be a girl unless you know what being a girl feels like."

But what you’re still failing to grasp is that when a gender-incongruent child says “I am a girl”, they aren’t making a philosophical claim about what it means to be a girl, they are simply describing the reality of their own subjective psychological experience. There's no use telling them they can't say this because it doesn't make sense- it's the reality of what is happening in their brain.

Consider a child who says, “I’m hurting.” You wouldn’t respond that they can’t claim to be in pain unless they know what pain feels like to other children. You recognise that they’re communicating something they are directly experiencing/ feeling.

Of course, the child needs to acquire the language and concepts necessary to identify and communicate that experience as “pain”. But acquiring those concepts doesn’t require access to anyone else’s subjective experience of pain. Indeed, such access is impossible.

The same distinction matters here. A child needs to acquire the concepts of “boy” and “girl” to articulate their experience of gender, but it doesn’t follow that the experience itself is derived from comparing their subjective feelings with those of other people, or that they must know what being a girl feels like.

The child might experience a persistent sense that they are a girl, that being regarded as a boy feels wrong, or that being recognised as a girl feels right. They can describe these experiences using concepts acquired through social interaction without having any
concept of what being a girl is supposed to feel like, or what it feels like for other girls.

Then you talk to them, find out why they feel they are a boy or a girl, help them to accept they are not a girl if they are actually a boy and move on, not affirm them only for them to be very hurt and upset when in a few years they find out you’ve been lying to them all along.

Lacksie · 20/10/2026 05:59

StealthTroublemaker · 20/10/2026 05:31

Then you talk to them, find out why they feel they are a boy or a girl, help them to accept they are not a girl if they are actually a boy and move on, not affirm them only for them to be very hurt and upset when in a few years they find out you’ve been lying to them all along.

That seems logical right?
But the problem is it assumes there is a "why" that can be identified and changed.

what you prescribe an adult should do is exactly what the vast majority of loving parents do- they really really try to do. The problem is when that doesn't work.

"Why do you feel it?"

"I just do. Because I am. My body feels it".

The parent keeps insisting-" the reality is you are are boy, you can be or do anything you want as a boy, but you are a boy".

And the more the parent insists, the more desperate and upset and confused the child becomes.

Eventually many loving parents, faced with this situation , come to a realisation- they can continue to deny and contradict what their child is telling them, and have a child who is deeply distressed and unhappy.,
Or they can change their way of thinking and find a way to accept/ accommodate and work with what their child is telling them.
Prior to puberty, this involves no more than changing the words used to address and refer to them, and letting them dress how they like (the latter parents are typically willing to do anyway).

And in the end, this is what many loving parents do. and when they do so, many also find that their child's distress dissipates and everyone can just move on as you say with normal life. suddenly they can talk with their child about what they learned at school, and playing football, and why do fish swim and all the normal conversations you have with a child, instead of the endless and fraught arguments about their gender.

BlueLegume · 20/10/2026 06:03

Lacksie · 20/10/2026 05:59

That seems logical right?
But the problem is it assumes there is a "why" that can be identified and changed.

what you prescribe an adult should do is exactly what the vast majority of loving parents do- they really really try to do. The problem is when that doesn't work.

"Why do you feel it?"

"I just do. Because I am. My body feels it".

The parent keeps insisting-" the reality is you are are boy, you can be or do anything you want as a boy, but you are a boy".

And the more the parent insists, the more desperate and upset and confused the child becomes.

Eventually many loving parents, faced with this situation , come to a realisation- they can continue to deny and contradict what their child is telling them, and have a child who is deeply distressed and unhappy.,
Or they can change their way of thinking and find a way to accept/ accommodate and work with what their child is telling them.
Prior to puberty, this involves no more than changing the words used to address and refer to them, and letting them dress how they like (the latter parents are typically willing to do anyway).

And in the end, this is what many loving parents do. and when they do so, many also find that their child's distress dissipates and everyone can just move on as you say with normal life. suddenly they can talk with their child about what they learned at school, and playing football, and why do fish swim and all the normal conversations you have with a child, instead of the endless and fraught arguments about their gender.

So what if a child with blue eyes feels they were born with the wrong colour eyes and should have brown eyes. How do we deal with that based on your last post?

Loving parents do not collude with delusion.

Fraught arguments and gender seem to go hand in hand. Why? Because it is a recent social contagion pushed by bad faith therapists, doctors and ultimately surgeons and big pharma. Much of it funded by billionaires such as Jennifer Pritzker. It is messing with vulnerable people and the children involved are deserving of better safeguarding.

No one is born in the wrong body.
No one needs to conform to gender stereotypes.

We need to see this as anorexia was when that was rife. We did not prescribe weight loss medication.

StealthTroublemaker · 20/10/2026 06:04

Lacksie · 20/10/2026 05:59

That seems logical right?
But the problem is it assumes there is a "why" that can be identified and changed.

what you prescribe an adult should do is exactly what the vast majority of loving parents do- they really really try to do. The problem is when that doesn't work.

"Why do you feel it?"

"I just do. Because I am. My body feels it".

The parent keeps insisting-" the reality is you are are boy, you can be or do anything you want as a boy, but you are a boy".

And the more the parent insists, the more desperate and upset and confused the child becomes.

Eventually many loving parents, faced with this situation , come to a realisation- they can continue to deny and contradict what their child is telling them, and have a child who is deeply distressed and unhappy.,
Or they can change their way of thinking and find a way to accept/ accommodate and work with what their child is telling them.
Prior to puberty, this involves no more than changing the words used to address and refer to them, and letting them dress how they like (the latter parents are typically willing to do anyway).

And in the end, this is what many loving parents do. and when they do so, many also find that their child's distress dissipates and everyone can just move on as you say with normal life. suddenly they can talk with their child about what they learned at school, and playing football, and why do fish swim and all the normal conversations you have with a child, instead of the endless and fraught arguments about their gender.

That’s why therapy exists, do either you affirm the child now, and store up trouble for when you have to tell him that actually, he’s not a girl, he can’t do all the things girls do and has to change and play sports with the boys. How is that kinder? When you have to sit him down at 9 and say “sorry bud, we lied to you. You’re not actually a girl, there was no way you could ever be a girl and you are actually a boy”. How do you think that will go down? Do you think the child will just accept it gracefully and move on?

Lacksie · 20/10/2026 06:12

Gently, what you are missing, is there never needs to be a point where you do that.

StealthTroublemaker · 20/10/2026 06:18

Lacksie · 20/10/2026 06:12

Gently, what you are missing, is there never needs to be a point where you do that.

yes there will. He’s not going to be allowed to change with the girls, play sports with the girls or sleep in the girls dorm at residentials. How are you going to explain that to him? “Sorry bud, you know we told you you're a girl, but you’re not like the other girls so you have to change and play with the boys”. Then he realises he’s actually a boy. And that his trusted adults lied to him. Yeah, great start to life for a kid.

BlueLegume · 20/10/2026 06:24

Lacksie · 20/10/2026 06:12

Gently, what you are missing, is there never needs to be a point where you do that.

Affirming a delusion is not good parenting. It definitely is not loving parenting. Gentle parenting is not good parenting.

Sometimes the word NO is enough.

Lacksie · 20/10/2026 06:26

StealthTroublemaker · 20/10/2026 06:18

yes there will. He’s not going to be allowed to change with the girls, play sports with the girls or sleep in the girls dorm at residentials. How are you going to explain that to him? “Sorry bud, you know we told you you're a girl, but you’re not like the other girls so you have to change and play with the boys”. Then he realises he’s actually a boy. And that his trusted adults lied to him. Yeah, great start to life for a kid.

The child knows they are different already. They know what anatomy they have, and they also develop developmentally appropriate knowledge over time of how society (sadly) treats children like them. You can't protect your child from that, you can only support your child to navigate it, try to educate others, and advocate for change.

Nothing about "working with your child" in the way I described involves lying to them- it simply acknowledges and recognises the reality of their psychological experience, for exactly what it is, and works with that reality instead of against it.

Lacksie · 20/10/2026 06:29

BlueLegume · 20/10/2026 06:24

Affirming a delusion is not good parenting. It definitely is not loving parenting. Gentle parenting is not good parenting.

Sometimes the word NO is enough.

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Sometimes the word NO is enough

😂. ok dear.
I have a child with GDD and autism, Maybe I should try shouting "NO" at her. hopefully that will make her brain work differently . 🙏🏻🤞🏻🫩

BlueLegume · 20/10/2026 06:29

Lacksie · 20/10/2026 06:26

The child knows they are different already. They know what anatomy they have, and they also develop developmentally appropriate knowledge over time of how society (sadly) treats children like them. You can't protect your child from that, you can only support your child to navigate it, try to educate others, and advocate for change.

Nothing about "working with your child" in the way I described involves lying to them- it simply acknowledges and recognises the reality of their psychological experience, for exactly what it is, and works with that reality instead of against it.

So you advocate creating a Walter Mitty character?

BlueLegume · 20/10/2026 06:32

Lacksie · 20/10/2026 06:29

Sometimes the word NO is enough

😂. ok dear.
I have a child with GDD and autism, Maybe I should try shouting "NO" at her. hopefully that will make her brain work differently . 🙏🏻🤞🏻🫩

Can you point to the part of my post I suggested you ‘shout’ anything? No doubt the upper case will be what you interpreted as shouting.

I will say it again. Sometimes with children the word no is enough.

It might be followed up with an explanation but no is a sentence.

StealthTroublemaker · 20/10/2026 06:38

Lacksie · 20/10/2026 06:26

The child knows they are different already. They know what anatomy they have, and they also develop developmentally appropriate knowledge over time of how society (sadly) treats children like them. You can't protect your child from that, you can only support your child to navigate it, try to educate others, and advocate for change.

Nothing about "working with your child" in the way I described involves lying to them- it simply acknowledges and recognises the reality of their psychological experience, for exactly what it is, and works with that reality instead of against it.

So why not help the child to accept he is a boy and there are lots of different ways of being a boy? Maybe if parents like Susie Green and her homophobic husband and the homophobic parents of Jazz Jennings weren’t so determined to adhere strictly to gender stereotypes then fewer children would suffer like their sons did. They’d be happy, fulfilled adults, not lifelong medical patients with psychological problems

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