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Another surrogacy horror story

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GingerBeverage · 07/10/2026 20:35

California couple arrested on child abuse charges in horrifying surrogacy probe

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/10/06/us/california-couple-surrogacy

LOS ANGELESAP —
A California couple has been arrested on child abuse charges following an investigation into a surrogacy scheme involving at least 21 children ranging in age from a few months to 13 years, authorities said Tuesday.
Silvia Zhang and her husband, Guojun Xuan face several counts of child abuse and conspiracy to commit child abuse, accessory after the fact, and dissuading a witness, Los Angeles County District Attorney Nathan Hochman said.
“This case is unprecedented. It is horrific. And the physical abuse, beating and punishment that these very young children received, is despicable,” Hochman said during a news conference Tuesday morning.

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Fifteen children were removed from the couple’s opulent home in Arcadia last year after an allegation of abuse, and another six living elsewhere were also located. They ranged in age from 2 months to 13 years, with most between 1 and 3. Police believe Zhang gave birth to one or two of the children while the rest were born by surrogate.
Hochman said the couple set up a surrogacy agency that they operated from their home and used that agency to hire surrogates throughout the US.
“The house could only be described as a house of horrors for these incredible young children,” Hochman said.

California couple arrested on child abuse charges in horrifying surrogacy probe | CNN

A California couple has been arrested on child abuse charges following an investigation into a surrogacy scheme involving at least 21 children ranging in age from a few months to 13 years, authorities said Tuesday.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/10/06/us/california-couple-surrogacy

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ReflectiveGilet · 07/10/2026 20:44

This is a cult surely?

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 07/10/2026 20:45

GingerBeverage · 07/10/2026 20:35

California couple arrested on child abuse charges in horrifying surrogacy probe

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/10/06/us/california-couple-surrogacy

LOS ANGELESAP —
A California couple has been arrested on child abuse charges following an investigation into a surrogacy scheme involving at least 21 children ranging in age from a few months to 13 years, authorities said Tuesday.
Silvia Zhang and her husband, Guojun Xuan face several counts of child abuse and conspiracy to commit child abuse, accessory after the fact, and dissuading a witness, Los Angeles County District Attorney Nathan Hochman said.
“This case is unprecedented. It is horrific. And the physical abuse, beating and punishment that these very young children received, is despicable,” Hochman said during a news conference Tuesday morning.

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Fifteen children were removed from the couple’s opulent home in Arcadia last year after an allegation of abuse, and another six living elsewhere were also located. They ranged in age from 2 months to 13 years, with most between 1 and 3. Police believe Zhang gave birth to one or two of the children while the rest were born by surrogate.
Hochman said the couple set up a surrogacy agency that they operated from their home and used that agency to hire surrogates throughout the US.
“The house could only be described as a house of horrors for these incredible young children,” Hochman said.

This is a horrific child abuse case. How they were born is completely irrelevant.

Loads of people have lots of kids, especially in blended families. What matters is the victims. Weaponising their suffering is beyond my comprehension, I just care what happened to them.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 07/10/2026 20:55

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 07/10/2026 20:45

This is a horrific child abuse case. How they were born is completely irrelevant.

Loads of people have lots of kids, especially in blended families. What matters is the victims. Weaponising their suffering is beyond my comprehension, I just care what happened to them.

Of course it's relevant how these children were born. They're part of the repugnant trade in trafficking babies. Of 21 children, 2 are alleged to have been birthed by the woman now in court ,with the rest purchased.

We don't allow the trade in human organs - it's considered unethical - yet we allow the trade in babies.

It is not weaponising their suffering - it's expressing a moral repugnance that they've been traded by abysmal people. It needs to stop

GingerBeverage · 07/10/2026 21:00

Every purchased child is a victim.

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NumberTheory · Yesterday 00:12

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 07/10/2026 20:45

This is a horrific child abuse case. How they were born is completely irrelevant.

Loads of people have lots of kids, especially in blended families. What matters is the victims. Weaponising their suffering is beyond my comprehension, I just care what happened to them.

Surrogacy is what allowed the couple to victimise so many children. It is a key aspect of the case.

BunkBedsArePeopleShelves · Yesterday 00:14

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 07/10/2026 20:45

This is a horrific child abuse case. How they were born is completely irrelevant.

Loads of people have lots of kids, especially in blended families. What matters is the victims. Weaponising their suffering is beyond my comprehension, I just care what happened to them.

How could it possibly be irrelevant? They BOUGHT most of those children!

Surrogacy is human trafficking

Helleofabore · Yesterday 06:02

So many children and so many women exploited. When will the laws change to stop this.

Lins77 · Yesterday 09:57

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 07/10/2026 20:45

This is a horrific child abuse case. How they were born is completely irrelevant.

Loads of people have lots of kids, especially in blended families. What matters is the victims. Weaponising their suffering is beyond my comprehension, I just care what happened to them.

I think you are arguing for the sake of it. It's not about weaponising their suffering, that's a really horrible thing to say. The surrogacy is a key element of the situation. It wouldn't be less horrific if the children were all their own but it would involve fewer children which is surely a relevant factor.

ApplebyArrows · Yesterday 10:02

Nobody has a dozen children under three if they're born the normal way! The surrogacy is extremely relevant to the situation.

womendeserveequalhumanrights · Yesterday 13:48

Fifteen children were removed from the couple’s opulent home in Arcadia last year after an allegation of abuse, and another six living elsewhere were also located.

Their home was only opulent because of the money they made from human trafficking aka selling children aka surrogacy.

The motive for this child abuse is right there in plain sight. They got rich from selling babies. They beat them because unlike watches or cars or jewelry, human possessions are apt to think for themselves. It's appalling.

I find it absolutely astounding that people are having debates about reparations for slavery that people centuries ago were responsible for at the same time as people are human trafficking by buying babies. Where's the concern for the babies / children who are alive right now or who are being created to be sold?

Then people act all surprised when there's finally concreate evidence of horrific abuse and treating children as possessions / commodities when it's right there in plain sight in the founding principle of commercial surrogacy.

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