WellBN Brighton GP practice do not believe in evidence based medicine. TT at employment tribunal tomorrow

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In case anyone is interested

https://x.com/LoudBonnet/status/2107877530602443058

Great, now I've got this as an earworm

Yesterday's questioning seemed very messy and repetitive. And certainly didn't seem to follow the 'never ask a question you don't know the answer to' rule.

I was particularly baffled by the extended questioning on whether there was a mentoring relationship.

Why did you think there was a mentoring relationship?

Everyone knew, lots of people were talking about it, and this emal from one to the other discusses the 'ongoing mentoring' in those exact words.

But why did you think there was a mentoring relationship?

Nick’s account very clear as always. Agree about the repetitive questioning going round in circles to no apparent end.

Thanks for sharing.

Dr Redvers was definitely the right person to have as safeguarding lead, wasn't she? And for that she (allegedly) suffered (allegedly) relatiatory investigations by people (allegedly) in cahoots with Dr Hall. That would be bad enough but for the NHS to continue to litigate this, and on the basis of EBM being a belief, is a scandal.

Goodness, Nick Wallis write up on his GenderBlog site is very sobering. We have a Helen Webberly mention, a Sophie Molly mention, a reference to an anorexic patient.

We have well and truly allowed the guardrails to fall off society all in the name of ‘wellbeing’.

The sad bit is parents with distressed children are putting the care of their precious child into the hands of these charlatans. Dr Sam Hall has smelled the money and followed it all wrapped up in a cheery smile and ‘be kind’ fakery.

Every thread on anything trans just makes me more upset about how this cult has captured the world. How the heck do we untangle from this?

I am at a point that if I have to see a HCP I will ask their views on transgender and if they are pro it I will ask not to be treated by them because if they will lie about that I do not trust them to treat me ethically. They have lost their moral compass.

She is and was a truly patient and child centred clinician with a focus om the rights of women and girls- a real loss.

The whole thing is nuts, as usual. Dr Redvers was a whistleblowing, drawing attention to what she perceived as unfair care by a particular doctor. It's imperative that NHS staff have the right to whistleblow and aren't hounded for it.

It's remarkable to me that the NHS have decided to defend this case. Then again, I thought it remarkable they decided to defend the Darlington nurses case and the Sandie Peggie case. They seem extremely committed to justifying behaviour that is unethical, illegal and downright batshit.

Has anyone successfully got remote access yet. Applied on Wednesday but nothing other than the generic " we have received your email" since?

Squeezed in between pronouns and tea or coffee.

Obviously Dr Hall is a true believer she got to line her pockets while feeling virtuous possibly even messiah-like. She was the living, apparently successful example of what many of these children wished to become. She could sooth any of their doubts with a gesture at herself. That's pretty powerful. These kids didn't stand a chance. Particularly as she framed doubts as a personal attacks.

Nope, same here and nobody I know who applied has got access. So much for 'open justice' hey?

No time to C&P today I'm afraid so will have to rely on threadreader later.

Part 1 of this morning

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/2108468518656311688.html

Getting the impression that the Respondent's barrister is not completely on top of the material, and the Judge is paying attention.

The Respondent's barrister seems both aggressive and nit-picking - I assume that's due to the paucity of his argument but it must be very hard for Dr Redvers to deal with. His use of language is so bloody dismissive.

He is trying to trip her up as to when she first realised that Adam Doyle was her enemy colluding with Dr Hall. This is an attempt to have the case against AD as R2 thrown out because it's out of time. He is also trying to frame it that because she didn't use magic words like "I believe in Evidence Based Medicine" that she cannot argue belief in EBM as a Protected Characteristic.

Many thanks for the thread and for those doing c+p when it’s available. I was very grateful also for NW’s summary that I could read with my breakfast this morning.

Struggling now to comprehend that EBM is apparently a protected belief. I mean, it’s how medicine is done and has been for a long time. How can NHSE or an ICB argue against it? It’s taught in every medical school as current best practice.

I’m not saying that the establishment shouldn’t ever be questioned or challenged when appropriate. But really, the R’s barrister interrogating Dr Redvers as to why she raised concerns and were they related to a protected belief, when she very clearly (to those of us practising medicine) was saying “hang on, this isn’t how things should be done is it?” is just astonishing. Their argument seems to be that patients should make their own minds up and as doctors we just go along with it. It reminds me of when Michael Jackson died - there were lots of discussions then about his doctor basically just being his drug dealer, and this is essentially the same.

It remains, to me, incredible that this ideology has so captured so many people who should know better. Good for Dr Redvers for sticking up for herself and for her patients. And shame on the NHS.

So Safeguarding lead raises safeguarding issues and is now being burned at the stake for attempting to safeguard young people.

Nope, same here. I wonder if someone at TT could give some idea of numbers remotely observing? Do you have any idea @Justabaker ? If there's capacity then there's no excuse for the court just to ignore public access requests. It's like locking the doors to the courtroom when there's space in the public gallery.

The whole "Evidence-Based-Medicine is just an opinion" defence reminds me of the moment a few months ago when WPATH came out with the view that their Standards of Care were just an opinion.

If neutral observers like parents can be reassured that the options [give kids drugs and surgery] and [don't give kids drugs and surgery] are equally valid, with equal chances of a good outcome then that absolves (in their minds at least) them of the responsibility of pushing their kids down a particular route

Thanks for the link as it provides more background. Amongst the links in the excellent article is this article from June 2026 by Dr Louise Irvine of CAN-SG about the WellBN scandal which includes this paragraph.

You just need to listen to this where Dr Hall describes anyone who questions medical transition of minors as “fascists” to realise we are dealing with someone who seems to have lost all objectivity, or connection with reality.

Sam Hall is even more unhinged than Webberley & even more dangerous as she is still on the medical register.

https://can-sg.org/2026/06/21/the-brighton-wellbn-scandal/

I tried phoning the court but estimated wait time is an hour!!! FFS. Not good enough

I was interested to read Helen Webberley's name pop up in Nick Wallis's account of the timeline of this case. She's always somewhere in the background.

Agree and also that Sophie Molly (Euan Weddell) had ‘interviewed’ Sam Hall. If you do not know who Weddell is feel free to Google. He is quite the lady.

Second morning session

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/2108505508621570090.html

Currently at lunch but looks like poor Dr Redvers will remain under witness constraints over the weekend.

I’m in awe of Dr Redvers. She seems to be able to follow this man’s weaselly ways and stick very clearly to her guns. The judge also seems alert to what is happening. Thank you to Mr PDC, and everyone else who posted stuff so that I now understand this shitshow. NHS must be in a bad way to be trying to defend their appalling behaviour.

Thank you @ImNotAsCooperativeAsYouMightWantAWomanToBe for the thread reader. Just catching up.