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FlyDubai attacker's post history shows repeated use of "slurs against women"

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MyAmpleSheep · 05/10/2026 19:15

According to the Guardian today

An analysis of Hammami’s X account by a company that uses AI to measure the toxicity of individuals’ social media accounts found dozens of misogynistic posts, including public threats against women. The analysis by Accountability! – which recovered Hammami’s deleted account by scraping internet archives, and reviewed almost 3,000 posts and responses – found repeated use of slurs against women, and a “consistent pattern” of use of terms meaning “whores”, and “filthy feminist”. The researchers also found homophobic slurs directed at men.

“Beyond offensive language, the analysis surfaced explicit conditional threats of physical violence … including repeated imagery of stomping on a woman’s head and making her ‘a lesson for others’,” the analysis found.

Sound familiar?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/oct/05/flydubai-co-pilot-originally-planned-attack-for-july-investigators-believe

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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 05/10/2026 20:16

I see it as an indication of deep self loathing, not that its an excuse or anything, I really, really don't care why this loathsome individual hates himself, I think he's right to do so because he's a hateful, nasty, scumbag.
They have the death penalty in Saudi Arabia don't they.

GrumpyPanda · 05/10/2026 20:24

Don't know about self loathing, but I believe there's solid data showing nearly all of these terrorists started out as violent misogynists.

SnoopyPajamas · 06/10/2026 12:41

The Guardian have outdone themselves again, I see. It should be noted that they're only pretending to care about women here so they can sidestep the issue of Islamic extremism and and make it look as if this was a case of Western -style "toxic masculinity".

It's obvious why the al-Hammani thought homophobia and violence against women were no big deal to post online. He was living between Saudi Arabia, Oman, and Morocco, Muslim countries in which these attitudes to women are common. If he was posting like this ten years ago, when he apparently studied in the West, then the Guardian might have a point. In the West, that would be a warning sign for future violence. In the Muslim world such misogyny and homophobia is par for the course, and it's disingenuous of the paper to pretend otherwise. They're arguing his misogyny should have brought him to the attention of the authorities, while completely ignoring the elephant in the room of the surrounding culture.

The Guardian don't tell us what al-Hammani did to prompt the investigation in Oman, but I'm willing to bet the "extremist views" the Omanis were concerned about weren't his hatred of women and gays. It was more likely to be that he was associating with radical imams and glorifying terrorist martyrs. That's the kind of thing that sets off the anti-extremist radar in Muslim countries.

An analysis of Hammami’s X account by a company that uses AI to measure the toxicity of individuals’ social media accounts found dozens of misogynistic posts, including public threats against women. The analysis by Accountability! – which recovered Hammami’s deleted account by scraping internet archives, and reviewed almost 3,000 posts and responses – found repeated use of slurs against women, and a “consistent pattern” of use of terms meaning “whores”, and “filthy feminist”. The researchers also found homophobic slurs directed at men.

“Beyond offensive language, the analysis surfaced explicit conditional threats of physical violence … including repeated imagery of stomping on a woman’s head and making her ‘a lesson for others’,” the analysis found.

“Online toxicity isn’t just corrosive, it’s a warning sign. This pilot was telling the world who he was in his posts. Had anyone in charge been listening, nearly 200 people might never have been put in danger,” said Gur Megiddo, a co-founder and chief executive of Accountability!.

What's missing from this picture? Remember, this attack wasn't targeted at women and gay people, though some may have been caught up in it. It was targeted at Jews and Israelis. You might expect then, in the circumstances, to hear about how many of al-Hammani's "toxic" posts were antisemitic, anti-Israeli, or anti-Zionist. You might expect some of the worst ones to be quoted. And yet . . . nothing.

What's more likely here? That a man about to murder-suicide a plane full of Jews had not posted about his hatred of them - or that the journalists who wrote this couldn't bring themselves to admit that he had? Because if he hadn't, that in itself would be remarkable enough to warrant comment.

If "dozens" out of 3,000 posts were slurs against women, how many were slurs against Jews? Should that, perhaps, have been a warning sign that al-Hammani was about to attempt violence against some Jews? Is it a failure that wasn't picked up on? Whose failure is it?

Hello? Guardian? Anyone home?

The standard of journalism on this one truly is piss poor.

NewGirlInTown · 06/10/2026 12:49

SnoopyPajamas · 06/10/2026 12:41

The Guardian have outdone themselves again, I see. It should be noted that they're only pretending to care about women here so they can sidestep the issue of Islamic extremism and and make it look as if this was a case of Western -style "toxic masculinity".

It's obvious why the al-Hammani thought homophobia and violence against women were no big deal to post online. He was living between Saudi Arabia, Oman, and Morocco, Muslim countries in which these attitudes to women are common. If he was posting like this ten years ago, when he apparently studied in the West, then the Guardian might have a point. In the West, that would be a warning sign for future violence. In the Muslim world such misogyny and homophobia is par for the course, and it's disingenuous of the paper to pretend otherwise. They're arguing his misogyny should have brought him to the attention of the authorities, while completely ignoring the elephant in the room of the surrounding culture.

The Guardian don't tell us what al-Hammani did to prompt the investigation in Oman, but I'm willing to bet the "extremist views" the Omanis were concerned about weren't his hatred of women and gays. It was more likely to be that he was associating with radical imams and glorifying terrorist martyrs. That's the kind of thing that sets off the anti-extremist radar in Muslim countries.

An analysis of Hammami’s X account by a company that uses AI to measure the toxicity of individuals’ social media accounts found dozens of misogynistic posts, including public threats against women. The analysis by Accountability! – which recovered Hammami’s deleted account by scraping internet archives, and reviewed almost 3,000 posts and responses – found repeated use of slurs against women, and a “consistent pattern” of use of terms meaning “whores”, and “filthy feminist”. The researchers also found homophobic slurs directed at men.

“Beyond offensive language, the analysis surfaced explicit conditional threats of physical violence … including repeated imagery of stomping on a woman’s head and making her ‘a lesson for others’,” the analysis found.

“Online toxicity isn’t just corrosive, it’s a warning sign. This pilot was telling the world who he was in his posts. Had anyone in charge been listening, nearly 200 people might never have been put in danger,” said Gur Megiddo, a co-founder and chief executive of Accountability!.

What's missing from this picture? Remember, this attack wasn't targeted at women and gay people, though some may have been caught up in it. It was targeted at Jews and Israelis. You might expect then, in the circumstances, to hear about how many of al-Hammani's "toxic" posts were antisemitic, anti-Israeli, or anti-Zionist. You might expect some of the worst ones to be quoted. And yet . . . nothing.

What's more likely here? That a man about to murder-suicide a plane full of Jews had not posted about his hatred of them - or that the journalists who wrote this couldn't bring themselves to admit that he had? Because if he hadn't, that in itself would be remarkable enough to warrant comment.

If "dozens" out of 3,000 posts were slurs against women, how many were slurs against Jews? Should that, perhaps, have been a warning sign that al-Hammani was about to attempt violence against some Jews? Is it a failure that wasn't picked up on? Whose failure is it?

Hello? Guardian? Anyone home?

The standard of journalism on this one truly is piss poor.

Bloody excellent post. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

SnoopyPajamas · 06/10/2026 13:15

The article also contains this gem:

Netanyahu has claimed Hammami had undergone “radical Islamist indoctrination” and was clearly suicidal, without giving details.

Er . . . do we need more details?

Things that, according to The Guardian, are just "toxic" and interesting to report on, and aren't signs of radical Islamist indoctrination, even though it might look like they really, really are:

  • hating homosexuals and loving violence against women
  • being investigated by the Muslim airline you work for and moved to a desk job because of your "extremist views"
  • moving to another Muslim country and being refused permission to fly planes there too
  • getting a job at an airline too understaffed to do proper background checks on its pilots
  • praying to Allah before attacking your fellow pilot with an axe and hijacking the plane
  • putting the plane into a nosedive that almost killed everyone on board, including yourself
  • scheduling your social media to post about martyrs and al-Qaida nine hours after the flight

This is all information the Guardian themselves had just given us, within the same article. Even if you want to disregard the claim that he confessed to wanting to crash the plane into an Israeli airport, his actions speak for themselves. I mean, for goodness sakes! We know suicide hijackings are a radical Islamic extremist phenomenon. We know it's jihad. They frame it like Netanyahu is jumping the gun somehow on saying this, but based on the "details" The Guardian have just finished explaining to us, it's obvious.

Co-pilot in flight stabbing had ‘Islamic radical indoctrination’, says Netanyahu

Alleged flydubai attacker interrogated by Saudi security services as investigation into apparent crash attempt opens

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/oct/01/netanyahu-flydubai-halts-all-flights-to-israel

highame · 06/10/2026 16:29

It must be their truth and their truth denies the bleeding obvious. Well done Guardian, you never let us down.
Thanks for these posts, really excellent reading

EdithStourton · 07/10/2026 07:33

The Guardian has completely lost the plot. It doesn't so much report the news as report a version of the news that its editors find tolerable.

I'd like to read the rest of that Accountability! report.

notimagain · 07/10/2026 08:44

@SnoopyPajamas

2 × good posts..

MyAmpleSheep · 07/10/2026 11:33

EdithStourton · 07/10/2026 07:33

The Guardian has completely lost the plot. It doesn't so much report the news as report a version of the news that its editors find tolerable.

I'd like to read the rest of that Accountability! report.

I looked for references to the report in other publications but the Guardian commissioned it privately.

I would also like to see what else is in it.

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